Nissan IDx Concept - Is this our affordable RWD sports car?

[Hijacker]

Give me a few more years to finish up me EE. It's all just signals and electrons. Depending on if the CVT's computer is integrated with the ECM or if they just talk over the CAN will set the tone and pace.

And if all else fails, an LS is always a good option.

[sx moneypit]

Why would you want to dump an LS in a brand new car?

[ImStricken06]

[alphapig]

Saw the pictures yesterday and was appalled.

Looked at them again before bed and it grew on me.

Now I get it and I like it. The pants-on-head retarded concept car styling should disappear - I just don't want it to end up looking like a crouching Cube.

[AZhitman]

The pants-on-head retarded concept car styling should disappear.

I lol'ed. I think it will.

[AZhitman]

Give me a few more years to finish up me EE. It's all just signals and electrons. Depending on if the CVT's computer is integrated with the ECM or if they just talk over the CAN will set the tone and pace.

52 wires coming out of the ECU. All of them black. No diagram. Have fun.

[NolimitZ32]

Over all I like it, I see the underlying concept and can visualize a cleaned up street version, I will however NOT hold my breath, it's been too long since Nissan has released anything that has truly intrigued me.

[Hijacker]

Give me a few more years to finish up me EE. It's all just signals and electrons. Depending on if the CVT's computer is integrated with the ECM or if they just talk over the CAN will set the tone and pace.

52 wires coming out of the ECU. All of them black. No diagram. Have fun.

Psh. Meters and scopes my friend. Meters and scopes. Never said it would be easy. It should be doable with enough time, patience, and equipment.

[float_6969]

I think we've found ourselves a masochist...

[themadscientist]

So, friends, I wonder when we stopped being customers of Nissan to be won over and became Nissan's battered girlfriends. "give them more time," and "we could swap the engine and/or transmission" after buying a brand new car? That sounds suspiciously like a girl dating an a-hole saying "I can change him" and "it's my fault." WTF?

I fail to see why I should be expected to lower my expectations or manufacture excuses for a car maker so I may then give them my money for a steaming pile of dung they produced.

It's Nissan's job to figure out what consumers want and deliver it. Failing to do that, they can expect low sales figures, not our cooperation.

You want help Nissan? Here ya go. Copy that.



Pay special attention to this part. See the sticky uppy thing and pushy downy pedally thing and the rear wheelie go round and roundiness? THAT'S WTF WE WANT YOU DIP****S! Do likewise. There's your help. No more will be forthcoming.



I expect 10% commission on every one you sell since you apparently can't be led to the poonanny by the end of your own pecker.

[AZhitman]

I love you Mike.

[themadscientist]

It's my thoughtful blue eyes.

[nissangirl74]

THANK YOU


Finally ,someone else sees what I see.

[dre1507]

You know what's even more salt in the incurable infested wound in the rwd enthusiasts heart? The new Nismo Sentra concept is boasting a 6 speed manual and way more power. Mind you, it's not even close to sports car status by traditional definition, being that it's FWD and sedan. Why doesn't the rwd coupe concept (much closer to sports car definition) have a manual? Why are you planning a grocery-getter that's more fun and interesting than one of our own sports cars?

[pepesilvia]

The look of the IDx NISMO has grown on me quite a bit. Actually I really like it now. I've always thought the 510's and Hakosuka were THE coolest looking cars from the datsun-era. However, I agree with everyone else that if they don't at least drop a manual transmission in the car I would NEVER consider buying one. I've been waiting so long for a new cheap RWD car from nissan so my heart jumped a bit when I found out about this car... But here's the thing that turns me off....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soi_MI-jP7s[/youtube]

The "Design Director" in this video says.... and i quote:

"Co-creation is not just doing what consumers want, but listening to their opinion. We need to listen to what they are saying...."

Really? Are you sure you've been listening? All I see from articles online is talk of the car only being offered with a CVT .... I literally cannot find a SINGLE PERSON who wants to drive a car with a CVT.

He also says:

"We created IDx NISMO based on ideas from people familiar with racing situations."

And none of these people suggested a nice 5 or 6-speed for the car? Wheres the fun in DRIVING? I'm going to be sooooo very disappointed in Nissan if they don't REALLY start listening to what the ENTHUSIASTS want.

that's my opinion.

[krash]

Made some modifications

[dgms240]

The article must have been changed, cuz this is what i read when i clicked the link: "With side mufflers, a 1.6 turbo engine linked to a sportier CVT and 225/40 19-inch tires, this feels more like our game, except it would be even better with a proper manual"

[AZhitman]

What if it had the Rocket Bunny treatment?

[NolimitZ32]

What if it had the Rocket Bunny treatment?

[PapaSmurf2k3]

What if it had the Rocket Bunny treatment?

I don't care if the thing launches with a Mr. Fusion and a Flux Capacitor- if it doesn't have a manual transmission, I'm not even test driving it.

[nissangirl74]

If I wanted to buy a car that looked like a 510, guess what? I'D BUY A %&*%^&*%^&* 510!!

Oh wait, we already did that.

http://s304.photobucket.com/user/notthe ... ort=3&o=10

[Jmoore124]

You add a manual and a turbo to that white model, and I would be interested for sure.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

If I wanted to buy a car that looked like a 510, guess what? I'D BUY A %&*%^&*%^&* 510!!

Not everyone lives in the land of milk and honey, Bex!! The rest of the world deals with rust!

[dgms240]

If they can put a 240hp version of the 1.6 turbo Juke motor and 6spd manual in the Sentra NISMO, why the hell can't they put the same thing in this only RWD?!!!

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/20/niss ... t-la-2013/

[EZcheese15]

If they can put a 240hp version of the 1.6 turbo Juke motor and 6spd manual in the Sentra NISMO, why the hell can't they put the same thing in this only RWD?!!!

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/20/niss ... t-la-2013/

I can tell you why the IDX concept is only CVT, but I can't explain why they would say that it will only be CVT.

The reason the concept is CVT is simple. Nissan plans to sell more of the base IDX's than the Nismo versions, which means more CVT's than they could with a manual. This is just common marketing sense.

When building 2 concept vehicles, they are only going to build one drivetrain set because they are showing off the way the car looks, not it's power plant and drivetrain. There's no sense in building a concept car with a one-off RWD 6 spd transmission, when they can easily throw in the CVT they already developed for the other concept car (the Freeflow).

The Sentra is a different story. Because it's FWD, and there is already a FWD manual transmission for the MR motor in production (in the Juke). They didn't have to do any new transmission development.

Like I said, that explains why the concepts were built they way they were. However, all Nissan would have to do is say that a production version would offer a manual (or better yet, manual only in the Nismo version), and it would calm down the whole Internet. But they won't, because they love their CVT's for some god awful reason.

[dgms240]

Also, for those who don't care for the looks, body panels, etc. I read somewhere that the body panels and headlights might be interchangeable to allow different looks. If that's true it should make it a lot easier to customize, think being able to swap rear fender/quarter panels without cutting etc.!

http://community.ratsun.net/topic/58623 ... try1012240

[dgms240]

If they can put a 240hp version of the 1.6 turbo Juke motor and 6spd manual in the Sentra NISMO, why the hell can't they put the same thing in this only RWD?!!!

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/20/niss ... t-la-2013/

I can tell you why the IDX concept is only CVT, but I can't explain why they would say that it will only be CVT.

The reason the concept is CVT is simple. Nissan plans to sell more of the base IDX's than the Nismo versions, which means more CVT's than they could with a manual. This is just common marketing sense.

When building 2 concept vehicles, they are only going to build one drivetrain set because they are showing off the way the car looks, not it's power plant and drivetrain. There's no sense in building a concept car with a one-off RWD 6 spd transmission, when they can easily throw in the CVT they already developed for the other concept car (the Freeflow).

The Sentra is a different story. Because it's FWD, and there is already a FWD manual transmission for the MR motor in production (in the Juke). They didn't have to do any new transmission development.

Like I said, that explains why the concepts were built they way they were. However, all Nissan would have to do is say that a production version would offer a manual (or better yet, manual only in the Nismo version), and it would calm down the whole Internet. But they won't, because they love their CVT's for some god awful reason.

Yea I agree that it makes complete sense for a concept, I was talking more about a production version. Any production version of this car SHOULD AT LEAST OFFER a manual transmission.

[themadscientist]

So, friends, I wonder when we stopped being customers of Nissan to be won over and became Nissan's battered girlfriends. "give them more time," and "we could swap the engine and/or transmission" after buying a brand new car? That sounds suspiciously like a girl dating an a-hole saying "I can change him" and "it's my fault." WTF?

Another example of what I'm talking about.

Also, for those who don't care for the looks, body panels, etc. I read somewhere that the body panels and headlights might be interchangeable to allow different looks. If that's true it should make it a lot easier to customize, think being able to swap rear fender/quarter panels without cutting etc.!

Translation: I know he can't dress and is kind of a jerk, BUT I CAN CHANGE HIM!

WTF would you buy a car that you think is ugly so you can then spend more money redesigning with snap on body panels? That's ridiculous. Did some marketing dingleberry pitch it in a corporate meeting? Yeah, probably.

[dgms240]

Honestly, I like the car for the most part. The aspects of the styling that I don't really care for prob won't make it into production anyways. The comment about the panels I made above was addressed to those who were complaining about the rear quarter panel/ C pillar area and the look of the front end. My only real gripe with the car is whether or not a manual trans will make it into production and whether or not it will have a reasonable amount of power out of the box, like the 240hp motor suggested for the Sentra NISMO.

[Hijacker]

The article must have been changed, cuz this is what i read when i clicked the link: "With side mufflers, a 1.6 turbo engine linked to a sportier CVT and 225/40 19-inch tires, this feels more like our game, except it would be even better with a proper manual"

Mate replued that it was a goof up on his part :/. I'm glad he put that jab in there. The more people who try to beat it through Nissan's thick head that the CVT is not the answer, the better.