Nissan Data Scan tool through consult port

[300max]

I was digging around for a cheaper alternative to the Blitz R-Vit II that uses the consult port to monitors the information the ecu is receiving from its sensors. I saw that the Blitz was retailing from $390 to $480, a little pricey in my opinion. I actual found two alternatives. One with a built in display (NissDataScan) and one without (plmsdevelopments) . I went ahead and ordered and received the one with the display. Both appear to allow you to datalog to a laptop and with the proper program (conzult or alternative) allows the displaying of fault codes and reseting those codes. I just hooked up the NissDAtaScan today and it seemed to work like a charm. It displayed all the parameters I wanted and calibrated the TPS as well. It obviously is not as pretty as the Blitz unit but seems to work exactly the same with a little datalogging thrown in.

prices: NissDataScan $300 Australian roughly $227.00 american) + shipping

Plmsdevelopments $125 Australian and includes a conzult like software program + shipping

NissDataScan: http://members.optusnet.com.au....htm

plmsdevelopments: http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/consult_if.htm

just a little FYI, enjoy

[drifts14x]

Just out of curiousity, is the NissDataScan unit similar to the S-AFC where anything that works for the SR20 will work for us, (or my 1992 S13 KA24DE), because that looks like one of those toys I really should just have.

[hannibal]

I'd love to see some screenshots of the software...

[300max]

I know it works on my 95 240sx SE. I also believe it only works for stock ecu's, so if you replace your ecu with a standalone I don't think it functions.

The originator of the software for Plmsdevelopments has a website w/ screen shots http://home.iprimus.com.au/tkolo/datascan.htm

I'm not sure if conzult has screen shots but their website is http://300zx-twinturbo.com/conzult/

[300max]

bump to pass up old threads

[hannibal]

Ive seen the PLMS before. I was interested in the you bought...

[kirk]

I'm also VERY interested in buying the NissDataScan module.Does anyone know if it works with the 1993 240sx (ka24de stock ecu).My FSM says that I have a Consult port (what the NissDataScan hooks into), but I am unable to find it. I have found a port that is practically identical, but it already has another connector plugged into it. I guess I could just splice into the wires from the ECU, but I wanted to see if anyone has used this on their S13?

Thanks!~Kirk

[deviousKA]

Nissan data scan is just software, it will work with any consult interface unit (plms, blitz, zcontrol etc etc.). The software costs ~$30.00 US.

I have it and its great, the best consult monitoring/datalogging software for the price, you cant beat it.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/tkolo/datascan.htm

There is many free versions of similar consult software that do basically the same thing. The advantage of datascan is the nice customizable gauges.

Im working on a new palm application, its called NSPalm. It is pda monitoring/datalogging software specifically for ka24e/de. Eventually the system will include on the fly tuning without an emulator, but right now its just a basic consult app.

And for any single cam guys feeling left out with no consult port, search around for a stanza ecu. They plug right in for consult capability.

[kirk]

Actually I was referring to this:http://members.optusnet.com.au....html

It is the scanner, with a built in display. Shows more parameters than the Techtom all at once (eight versus 2).I have looked into the software, but would rather just have a display in front of me rather than lugging around the laptop (or buying a PDA).

I was just wanting to know if it works with '93 year model cars (which I think you just answered)But why would my car have something connected to the consult port? Am I looking a the wrong thing?

Thanks for the reply Devious!

[NateDogg]

I bought the PLMS one for my '91 240sx. It works great and has been very helpful.

[deviousKA]

That unit just works with the nissan consult system, just like the softwares mentioned earlier, It has the consult adapter built into it .

Palm pda's are cheap, look better, and have larger screens. How much does that NissDataScan cost? Have you ever heard of Nprobe? What im working on is basically just like Nprobe, but it will be free (instead of 4 bills). Granted it is not finished, but it will be free+open source. Here is the pda that i use, infact i have two of them (IBM C500) worth every penny http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...&rd=1 I should buy another they are such a good deal.

Your 93 ka24de is fully compatible with all consult systems, unless they are designed specifically for the Z32. Nothing should be connected to your consult plug, maybe a little dust cover is all. The wires that are used are 7, 14, and 15 that go directly to the ecu pins.

[kirk]

Man you RULE devious!

The NissDataScan module thing is $285 dollars (including shipping). Which is pretty reasonable in an all inclusive package (compared to the Apexi multichecker, and TechTom MDM, and Blitz).http://store.sr20forum.com/for..._id=3

I have also looked at Nprobe, but was turned off by the price (not including the PDA and mounting bracket). Basically just paying for the software to display the info on a PDA I think....

I'll try and grab a pic of the connector that I'm talking about later this afternoon and post it up.

I really like the idea of the all in one thing, without having to worry about PDA power supply, mounting, etc.... But, I could easily be swayed

How long of a wait until your program is released Devious?

[kirk]

Here are pics of my "consult port". These were taken from the driver's side kick panel next to the fuse block.

http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/...t=all

http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/...t=all

[deviousKA]

Im not sure if that is the one, on all of mine i have them wired in directly to ecu, bench testers. That looks like the plug but it being connected to the other is odd.

Also I cant give any definate time when ill have that app done, should be soon. I am very busy most of the time with lots of things going on, but i rarely let a project die without finishing.

[eddiec]

devious: how does your pda interface with the consult port?

and are you saying that you are currently developing an app;ication to run on a pda to interpret the signals from the ecu (through the consult port)?

i'm more interested in how the pda receives the signals from the port.

[deviousKA]

devious: how does your pda interface with the consult port?

and are you saying that you are currently developing an app;ication to run on a pda to interpret the signals from the ecu (through the consult port)?

i'm more interested in how the pda receives the signals from the port.

The pda interfaces in the same way other rs232 devices (laptops) interface with consult. The circuit required is simply a low level (ttl, 5v) to high level (rs232, 12v) signal converter along with a clock signal generator to initialize serial communication with ecu. It works with plms, blazt, and zcontrol circuits (as well as others). The wires of interest that come out of the consult plug are TX, RX, and CLK.

Thats the easy part, the communication protocol (command-recieve format) is the tricky part to get setup properly. The app of mine is written in easy to use basic. Id be willing to share any information.

If anyone reading this is skilled in the art of 8 bit motorola microcontroller code writing, I need your help for something grand! I am working on a fully self contained real time tunable ecu, using a modified oem ecu that is running RAM instead of ROM. It will eventually be similar to power fc or reytec type ecu, i have it 85% finished. I have done a lot of work on it so far, but would really like some group effort if at all possible. Regardless ill continue chugging along on the project. It uses ka24e mainboard, heres a picture of the prototype.



ps, date on pic is not correct.

[kirk]

WOW!!!! You have some great ideas Devious! Keep up the good work!

I know you said earlier that 7,14,15 from the ECU are the wires that connect to the consult.

Is it correct that: 7=TX14=RX15=CLK

Also, do you have an idea where on the consult connectors these wires are run?http://300zx-twinturbo.com/conzult/ddl.jpg

If you flip that picture upside down (with the snap connector to the top)

A---B-C---D-E---F-GH---I-J---K-L---M-N

As an example:ECU----consult connector7----A14---G15----M

Your help would be greatly appreciated, since I don't have/can't find my consult port, I'll just have to wire it directly to the ecu.

Thanks!

[deviousKA]

This might help



2 (tx) 1 (rx) 9 (clock) 7 (ign) 8 (gnd)

Those should be the consult connectors pins, I am not 100% certain but that has what i have run across. Forgot to mention youll need power and ground as well, if your wiring direct to ecu youll have to source these from somewhere.

If you are wiring directly to the ecu, you must flip the TX/RX wires. This is done somewhere along the wiring to the stock consult connector. On mine i have them soldered right to the ecu underside, and thats definately what you have to do if you go that route.

Heres the ecu pinout, for an SR but its the same. http://www.datnet.org/new/techinfo/page1.html

7-RX14-CLK15-TX

[Fenvy]

whta about the power fc?

the commander gives me plenty info

[kirk]

That is EXACTLY what I was looking for Devious!You're the man!!!!