nissan 200 sx 1.8 T (help)

Post by **Simon** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

Hi i am here new. I leave in Poland and i just bouth nissan 200 sx 1.8 turbo s 13 ,made in 1992. I woud like to know something more about this car and about turbo witch is in it. I heard that there are many problems with this turbo.I realy need your help becouse something is wrong with my car ( when i start it on there is something like tic tic tick in my engine and there is no power my max speed is 70 km/h , blue smoke and the engine is very loud). What should i do with turbo and these small pipes witch are going in to the turbo.I heard that the problem is with those small pipes. If its true what shoud i do with them??

Post by **YamaOni** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

The problem with the turbo is it is old, Time to replace it... the small pipes are oil and water feed and return, You need them.The blue smoke is the red flag, The turbo oil seals are blown and is leaking into the exhaust housing and burning.

Your options are replace it with a turbo from a newer S 13 S14 S15, The SR turbo will bolt on with little modifications or overhaul the old one.

Teh tic tic tic might be the injectors or a lifter going.Use the end of a long screwdriver probe for where the nois is comming from. Take care while doing this!!!!

Post by **Simon** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

YamaOni Thx for your replay. You said that i can repace old turbo from s14 or s15 but i dont know if it works good in this engine (my mechanic said that is imposible or he cant do this

)I have one more question. May be i should repace my engine 1.8 T to other one ( 2.0 T)becouse i heard that 1.8 engines sux ( there are many problems with them). Tell me plz is it true that there are many probems with them. What shoud i do with it??:help

Post by **Nismo1182** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

If your mechanic cant do it, its time to find another mechanic. As for the 1.8 being crap, do a search on it vs a SR. Im going with a 1.8 swap for my car soon plus a S15 turbo upgrade.

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

Simon wrote:YamaOni Thx for your replay. You said that i can repace old turbo from s14 or s15 but i dont know if it works good in this engine (my mechanic said that is imposible or he cant do this )I have one more question. May be i should repace my engine 1.8 T to other one ( 2.0 T)becouse i heard that 1.8 engines sux ( there are many problems with them). Tell me plz is it true that there are many probems with them. What shoud i do with it??:help

I agree about finding a different mechanic.

And no, the 1.8L does not suck. You have the CA18DET engine. It is just as good as the 2.0L, just has less horsepower. You might also try going to our 240SX/Silvia (200SX) forum. It's for all S12, S13, S14, and S15 cars. We also have a forum in there called "CA18DET" which you might want to ask questions in there.

Just to help you out on our site, if you are not familiar with the U.S. market, the 240SX in the U.S. is the same as the S13 and S14 in other markets but with a different engine. However, many people prefer to put the CA18DET or SR20DET engines in their 240sx's in the U.S., so hopefully some of the guys here can help you out more.

Post by **YamaOni** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

Simon wrote:YamaOni Thx for your replay. You said that i can repace old turbo from s14 or s15 but i dont know if it works good in this engine (my mechanic said that is imposible or he cant do this )I have one more question. May be i should repace my engine 1.8 T to other one ( 2.0 T)becouse i heard that 1.8 engines sux ( there are many problems with them). Tell me plz is it true that there are many probems with them. What shoud i do with it??:help

Tell your mechanic to pack it up and go back to working on farm equipment! You have to do some MINOR modifications to fit the SR turbo on but they are not that big a deal if you get the complete turbo set up, turbo, oil and water feed lines, extinction pipe, intake piping. Its not that hard. As for the CA18 Vs the SR20 that starts fights, All I can say is the SR20 is a good engine with very good after-market support, on the downside the valve train in my opinion is crap!!! The CA18 is a strong iron block that is very reliable but the after-market support is not there.

Post by **themadscientist** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

Putting on an S14 turbo goes on very easy. the inlet is different, you have to rotate the copressor housing slightly and modify one hole in the outlet pipe going to the downpipe. Your mechanic is obviously unintiated with these cars be careful, he's learning with your car. If you need parts I have a freind stationed in Germany that I can hook you up with. He worked on these cars with me whan he was in Japan.

Post by **Simon** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

Realy BIG THX for your help. On Monday i am going to buy a new CA18 engine for something like 850$ with out turbo. The engine got 85.000 miles. And used turbo cost 200$. Is it a good deal ???? I am asking becouse i dont know the price of it. Oh and its got 3 mounths guaranty. Should i buy it

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

Simon wrote:Realy BIG THX for your help. On Monday i am going to buy a new CA18 engine for something like 850$ with out turbo. The engine got 85.000 miles. And used turbo cost 200$. Is it a good deal ???? I am asking becouse i dont know the price of it. Oh and its got 3 mounths guaranty. Should i buy it

But it sounds like the biggest problem with your car is the turbo, not the engine? So why buy a new engine?

I personally would take it to another mechanic and get a second opinion of what all is wrong. It will probably be cheaper than a new engine.

Also, if the diagnosis is that the turbo is bad, I would heavily consider looking into a turbo from the SR motor.

Post by **YamaOni** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

That price is nuts! But I am in Japan... And you are in Poland. Is that what the engines market value is? I would gut it if it is as good as it sounds and do a full rebuild as for the turbo take a step up, If you get that CA turbo you might be SH*t out in a month or a year. Try to finding some thing better, Newer and easy rebuild

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

YamaOni wrote:That price is nuts! But I am in Japan... And you are in Poland. Is that what the engines market value is? I would gut it if it is as good as it sounds and do a full rebuild as for the turbo take a step up, If you get that CA turbo you might be SH*t out in a month or a year. Try to finding some thing better, Newer and easy rebuild

Hey Yama, what is with all you Japanese guys. All of you have "on the spooky mountain" for your location. Is that some kind of inside joke between you guys? Or is it something I just don't get?

Post by **Simon** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

I need new engine and new turbo.And i dont know what should i buy becouse in Poland are only ~15 cars like that ( i mean nissan 200 sx). The others mechanics said that will cost me something like 3000$ so my mechanic price is good i thing he wants for all 1200 $. i dont know which engine should buy. CA18det or may be SR. I have only 1300-1400$ and i dont know what to do.

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

Simon wrote:I need new engine and new turbo.And i dont know what should i buy becouse in Poland are only ~15 cars like that ( i mean nissan 200 sx). The others mechanics said that will cost me something like 3000$ so my mechanic price is good i thing he wants for all 1200 $. i dont know which engine should buy. CA18det or may be SR. I have only 1300-1400$ and i dont know what to do.

I say get the CA18 then, and get a turbo from an SR. The only crappy thing about a CA is the turbo. So if you get the SR turbo, it will be an awesome motor.

Post by **YamaOni** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

To let you in a little, First off Yama is mountain in Japanese and Oni is demon, The Mad one lives up on a hill and I live on the bottom, The Mad one throws rocks at me and hits me!!! Not joking. And as far as I know we are the only ones on the Mountain He is the king and I am the troll. Mountain troll that is.

Post by **Simon** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

Whow much do i have to pay for sr turbo ??

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

Simon wrote:Whow much do i have to pay for sr turbo ??

Here is one on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...67025

Current bid is $16.50 USD. It might go up to $100-$200 though. Anyway, that, plus shipping.

Post by **YamaOni** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

What amount of money are you playing with? If you are low on the cash flow go for a nice SR turbo but if you are willing to spend more go for a new turbo. A new S15 turbo from nissan is about 900 usd S14 650usd and a nice GTIR turbo 650usd. Used is a shot in the dark.

Post by **YamaOni** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

From E-bay

A Garrett T25 turbo in fair condition. This turbo was taken from an SR20DET engine. The turbo housing is in excellent condition, the impeller however has a bit of shaft play. It spins freely, and does not scrape the wall. It may need a rebuild it may not, I cant be certain. Even if it needs a rebuild, kits are available from Garrett or Turbonetiks for $200-300. You could have a like new condition turbo for a fraction of the cost of an actual new one.

In the short run Junk! and it has no mention of the other parts you need to make it go in a CA easy.

Post by **Simon** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

Nissan 200 sx is my first car so i have to know some things.1 Everybody is saying that the only crappy thing about a CA is the turbo. Why is it crappy?2 What can i do with it ??3 Is it the problem with the oilpipe??4 its not so easy to buy a turbo in Poand or in other country becouse i have to pay 22% Tax and Sr turbo cost 1xxx$ in Poland so its not a good bissnes.5 turbo fixkits (or something like that) are very expensive in my country (its better to buy a new turbo then fixkit).6 Plz tell me what i have to do with that used turbo for CA to work good in my new engine and what i have to do with thoes oilpipe ( i heard that there was a problem with this small sh*t not only in my CA??There was lots of problems in europe with this engine becouse of turbo and this oilpipe.)7 oh i forgot the 1 oilpipe cost 120$:( its very expensive for 1 small pipe.

Post by **themadscientist** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

the CA turbos are always blown, they had great response when brand new but they are old and very worn out. S14 turbos are ball bearing center with a much larger compressor, 100% improvement over the CA design.If you want stuff direct from Japan I can make that happen. How reliable is your postal system? If something is mailed directly to you will it escape being taxed or will someone open the box and tax you or just steal it?If you change the turbo make sure you do this:

Drain the oil and remove the oil filter

Remove the oil supply line from the side of the engine block, trash it, it's junk.

blow compressed air through the pipe that the oil filter screwed onto.

Crud should come flying out the hole where the supply line was, if not it's plugged up and I wouldn't put a new turbo on, it would quickly die.

Replace the oil supply line, it is the only thing keeping your turbo alive, buy it new. The oil drain line can be cleaned and reused.

Get a turbo timer and use it.

Post by **Simon** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

I think that nobody will open my mail so there will be no tax

but new turbos are to expensive for me now. I need something in fair condition like this turbo on eBuy.I was trying to register on eBuy but it doesnt work becouse it wants a state and in poland are no states:mad: I dont know why i cant change it. Yes i am interested but i can only buy used turbo in fair condition thats very sad.

Post by **themadscientist** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:55 am

if you were in Japan, close to the source I would say get a used one but if I pull a used one and you wait a month to get it and go to the trouble of putting it on there is no way I can guarantee it won't die after a month. You can wiggle em and sniff em and spin em all you want there is just no way of knowing what a used part will do. I would reccomend you suffer with the sick turbo and save up for a new Turbonetics one. HKS ones are nice but a little Fakin expensive!

nissan 200 sx 1.8 T (help)

nissan 200 sx 1.8 T (help)

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