NISMO Coil-Over Shock Kit $675.00??

[ralphdig]

[5300S-RSS30-US]MSRP: $839.62

240SX 1989-1994

Performance street suspension

Is this any good?

http://www.performancenissanpa...id=88

[cosmo]

search, young one, search.

Whenever Rico05 comes back you can ask him, as he's got a set.

Anyways, good is a subjective question. You might need to be a little more specific.

They are non-damper adjustable, non-ride height adjustable, and I have heard many good things about them.

[Sirikool]

I'm planning on getting those. I don't care about lowering my car even though the damping thing is making me put a hold on my position. It's a good price and name brand.

P.S. i go to that site alot

[ralphdig]

I allready ordered them, they come complete whith mounts, so no need to take apart old ones this will make installation easy. the car will lower around 20mm. (less than an inch).Let you know results

[Sirikool]

keep us updated dude. pics plz

[ralphdig]

They allready shipped my order gave me track # with UPS, fast service!

[book-ends]

The S-Tunes are great, but I hope you realize that the photo you posted IS NOT what you are going to receive! They are not coilovers........just shock and spring combo with NISMO rates and hard upper mounts.

[BadMojo]

The S-Tunes are great, but I hope you realize that the photo you posted IS NOT what you are going to receive! They are not coilovers........just shock and spring combo with NISMO rates and hard upper mounts.

Yeah, those would appear to be more expensive R-Tunes for an S14, perhaps.

Still, the S13 S-Tunes look like a good deal for the price. Stiffer Nismo upper mounts, stiffer springs than you could get from most strut/spring combos and, presumably, damping to match the spring rates.

I personally can do without height adjustability or even damping adjustability if the coilovers are properly set up in the first place. If you don't need camber adjustability up front, those S-Tunes look like they could be pretty nice.

I'd be concerned with what happens if just one blows out. Can you buy one replacement?

[chmercer]

i would personally steer clear of thoes unless you are just making your car a little nicer to daily drive. the soft spring rates are going to be dissapointing in any kind of racing situation, and the non ajdustable dampers will continue to get bouncier and bouncier with age. plus you cannot accomidate different sized wheels properly without height adjustabilitiy. for that price you could get D2s, or for just a paycheck more SPL full coilovers with all the bells and whistles.

[ralphdig]

Negro is now 11 years old and suspension is still 100% original, but now with new tieroads & ends, new energy suspension bushings, those Nismo Street "Coil-overs" and new tires (Toyos or BFGoddrich); Car will be a lot better, dont ´u think?Besides last time Negro and me went to the track was 9 years ago.I remember it was so soft with a lot of body roll.What I want is a reliable car for country roads and a little fun amazing Mustangs and Hondas with the Negro balance and stability.

[BadMojo]

I think they look like a nice alternative to an AGX+aftermarket spring setup. Consider, you get a damper that actually is going to match your spring. The AGX's are adjustable, but from what I've heard the level of adjustment is pretty coarse.

I'd pick those over the D2s too. I bet the D2s blow before the Nismo units do. If you can get 3 years out of the Nismo units, I'd call it worth the money.

A lot of people take their cars to the track on Eibach Sportlines, Pro-Kit, etc. The Nismo S-Tunes are going to be a lot stiffer than any readily available aftermarket spring I can thing of (excluding maybe the RSR Race). If you figure $400 for some AGX's and then $200+ for some RSR springs, you're already at $600 and still don't have new mounts or any dust boots.

[rico05]

i would personally steer clear of thoes unless you are just making your car a little nicer to daily drive. the soft spring rates are going to be dissapointing in any kind of racing situation, and the non ajdustable dampers will continue to get bouncier and bouncier with age. plus you cannot accomidate different sized wheels properly without height adjustabilitiy. for that price you could get D2s, or for just a paycheck more SPL full coilovers with all the bells and whistles.

Everyone (inlcuding people w/ "real" coilvers) comments on how stiff my car is. And DO NOT GET D2s. I do not freaking care who has them or how great they are. They are Taiwan CRAP. Seriously. Go look for a few pictures of them and the fit and finnish on them looks like a$$. Nismo spent a LOT of time and money developing the S-Tunes and it shows! They are even nice enough to inlcude an alignment guide to tell you what they found to be the best setup. I love my S-Tunes to death, and am VERY pleased with my purchase! Plus, since I got them in the initial run, they were almost $1000. For that price, that beats out the poop on a stick AGX + S Tech combo that everyone loves (for some odd reason). Also, they drop the car 25mm in the front, 15mm in the rear. Combined with the oter goodies I ahve in my suspension, body roll is minimal and understeer is something you have to work to generate. They are great for track and street, have plenty of proper clearance and travel (lots of guys slam their cars on coilovers....this is NOT the best thing for handling!!!!!) and are very solidly built. I have had mine for 10 months and loving every minute of it!

[chmercer]

ralphdig - yes you will deffinitley notice a nice improvment from your description of spirited street driving, i think this nismo setup will fit your bill nicley.

badmojo - yes i would say that is a nice alternative to KYB shocks and aftermarket spring. Although with AGX you get adjustment, which you say is coarse, but how can you even compare it to the nismo units, which are completly non adjustable. If the D2's blow, i believe they have a pretty sizeable warranty (do not quote me on this). Now i am not a proponent for D2 coilovers by any means, but they do back their product, from what i have seen. Which track do you refer to? i would be scared to drive a road race car with 3k springrates. regarding the price, it is quite reasonable when compared with the all too common KYB setup.

rico05 - I dont know who your friends are who call S tunes stiff, if they have real coilovers they are probably tein SS or somthing similar. A setup on an 8/6 spring or somthing comprable will feel much stiffer than Nismo's 5/3 pairing or whatever. D2 coilovers may not be the best, but i would say they would be a better choice than nismo s tune. more useful springrates, height adjustability, camber adjustment. And the dampening adjustment may be pretty small per click, but at least it HAS dampening adjustment, if only to help the dampers along with age. Please show me where nissan spent a million dollars developing low volume aftermarket street suspension kits?

dont get me wrong, the nismo s tech package is a nice street setup, but it is not suited for race situations. you arent getting a box full of magic for 600$. you act like its made out of gold.

imho

[ralphdig]

Well all i want is a nice street ride.To day the Energy Suspension Bushings kit, tie-rods, arrived.Stut tower bar, tie rod ends are missing For track I go whith my Vintage A100.A photo here

[ralphdig]

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[Fenvy]

never seen anything like it... more info?

[ralphdig]

http://www.alpine-renault.net/a110.htm

[Sirikool]

Fianlly, some feedback on these coilovers. I was considering on gettin this Nismo kit and now i am for sure as hell going to. Thx for the feedback guys (especially rico n ralph)

[rico05]

Adjustibilty is needed when a large company throws a basic setup at a car and says : "Here, you figure it out." Nissam (Nismo) is an OEM. They designed the car. Their chassis and suspension engineers designed the S Tunes. So some arbitrary comments like "at least it HAS adjustment" is worthless to say the least. Who needs adjustment, when it is perfect? Matched and tuned shocks and springs with new, stiffer upper mounts. I trust Nissan engineers w/ tuning my car WAY over some tiny company in middle of nowhere East Asia. Seriously man, do some reading and learn how a suspension system works before you jsut say "stiffer if better" and "adjustment is better". If you have a full time race car that sees a lot of different tracks, go big time and get custom valved shocks and specially made springs for your car, but for those of us on planet Earth, Nismo S-Tunes are great!

[ralphdig]

. If you have a full time race car that sees a lot of different tracks, go big time and get custom valved shocks and specially made springs for your car, but for those of us on planet Earth, Nismo S-Tunes are great!

I agree!

[nismofly]

did you already install them or didnt they come yet?

i had originally thought about either getting coilovers or kgx w/ h&r springs, but rico05 has some really good points, ill definatly consider these now a lot more than i ever would have thought to

[Nismo_Freak]

Adjustibilty is needed when a large company throws a basic setup at a car and says : "Here, you figure it out." Nissam (Nismo) is an OEM. They designed the car. Their chassis and suspension engineers designed the S Tunes. So some arbitrary comments like "at least it HAS adjustment" is worthless to say the least. Who needs adjustment, when it is perfect? Matched and tuned shocks and springs with new, stiffer upper mounts. I trust Nissan engineers w/ tuning my car WAY over some tiny company in middle of nowhere East Asia. Seriously man, do some reading and learn how a suspension system works before you jsut say "stiffer if better" and "adjustment is better". If you have a full time race car that sees a lot of different tracks, go big time and get custom valved shocks and specially made springs for your car, but for those of us on planet Earth, Nismo S-Tunes are great!

No offense but adjustment has more bearing than you give it.

Within different courses (auto-x vs. road course) you will have different requirements for dampening adjustment for the car to be setup ideal to the driver. One setup does not work for everyone, just the same as one setup doesn't work for every road. Nor does it even work for every car.

I for instance have a car that is 13% lighter than a stock S14, prolly about 50% more rigid, and has 74% more power than a stock S14. Nissan's suspension engineers could not have forseen me doing these specific mods and designed it into the shock accordingly. So in that instance the Nismo coilovers are not ideal for my setup, and there is nothing I can do to change that.

THAT is why adjustability has it's benefits. It's simply a fine tuning adjustment thats incorporated into the shock.

Secondly, Nismo's parts are often just remodified OEM components with a compromise between road usage and spirited driving. Every Nismo part I've seen has been just a step above what came stock. That doesn't make them bad, but in terms of performance they are giving up too much to creature comforts (low noise, low feedback) compared to other aftermarket components. Basically I like to think of Nismo parts as the parts Q45Tech would design if you asked him to build you a performance street setup. Frankly while that would work well on the street, it will no doubtedly extend some of it's ability into the durability and ride comfort regions.

[nismofly]

So Alan for someone looking to spend around $600-$700 what would you recommend? i looked on spl but the least priced coilovers you have are like $1100. are you saying that for the adjustability something like the agx is better than nismo s-tune? or do you have something else in mind, like the d2s...

[Fenvy]

better is subjective, to alan adjustability is better and to rico not having to adjust since it's already good is better

I have adjustable shocks and you know what? I never adjust them. I would have picked nismo if it had a 2 inch drop

[nismofly]

thats a good point, im just trying to find someone who has a setup on their car that they really like in this price range, someone who could testify how much they like it and how good it works for a street setup, with some spirited driving thrown in, some nice twisty roads to tackle, but no aggressive track driving just yet

[Fenvy]

well... if you have to ask then chances are you don't care about adjustability...

if you also don't care about being only lower to a 0.5 inch? then maybe nismo stune is better for you... like I said, i I would be all over stune if it is 2inch drop

[nismofly]

ill have to rethink my options, ive never driven an s13 with anything besides stock suspension, so ill have to see, maybe ill wait a little longer until i can afford good quality coilovers instead, but of course that would mean waiting even longer driving a stock suspension...ug

[Fenvy]

coilovers are nice.... and expensive....

I don't autocross, I don't drift or anything like that.... so coilover may not be nessassry for me.

What I do do is that I Drive like an idiot sometimes, I don't go to a nearly full stop when coming to a bump... basically I am abusing my shocks with my driving style. When they blow in 3 to 5 years I can get another full set of agx for 300. For coilovers it's going to cost a lot more take that into consideration as well

[nismofly]

i really dont do much of that or of thing either...yet, so im trying to find a street setup until i start taking my car to the track on a regular basis.

on the other hand, those $1100 coilovers i mentioned at SPL, the kts, im liking them more and more, i might just wait and get those, but my original choice for a street setup would be agx, so i might get those and springs so i have something while i save for coilovers, especially since the shocks i have right now are almost gone

[Nismo_Freak]

So Alan for someone looking to spend around $600-$700 what would you recommend? i looked on spl but the least priced coilovers you have are like $1100. are you saying that for the adjustability something like the agx is better than nismo s-tune? or do you have something else in mind, like the d2s...

$600 - $700 I'd rather spend my money in the Nismo's. Rico brought up many valid points that place the Nismo's higher in my book than the others in their price range.

If you're talking about something that's in the quality coilover range, then I'd buy the KTS, hands down. I am most impressed by these coilovers, seriously.

It's just up to you to decide what you want for yourself. Often times the worst decisions are the ones you later regret. Just think, if you buy AGX + Springs you will always wonder "what if I had boughten the coilovers?". You just gotta find what you WANT, and make it happen... take it from me... it's TONS better to wait for the parts you want.