Nismo Allocations on 2004 Touring

[Robs_altima]

Hey, all I'm still very new to the 350Z forums but I've been a pretty avid tuner over the past few years with turbochanging my Scion tC and most recently just a clean Altima coupe (lowered, wheels, exhaust ect). I look forward to turning my car into a serious street and track performer. The goal is building and turbocharging the car with Sound Performance in Illinois but that's planned for the spring. Right now I'm doing the basics. Feel free to recommend a setup.

Here's the thing. I was calling my local Nissan dealer where my cousin manages the used car lot portion to get a some information on Nismo parts and prices, great discounts!!! Actually wanted the order a Nismo ground effects kit and the suspension package. Whether or not going with Nismo is a mistake as far as suspension, I'm absolutely set on the ground effects. The problem is the Tech told me it is only for the 2006 and on and will not fit the car. Now I check Nismoparts.com and their listing says all years with the exception of a few modifications to the roaster. The suspension he said will not work on a VDC car. Both he said they can't sell me because they will not take the parts back when I find out they don't fit. Granted he is only reading the very vague info in the nismo catalog. My question to you guys is will the ground effects fit? Will I have any problems running the suspension on the VDC? Thanks for any help or direction to an answer.
Modified by Robs_altima at 12:58 PM 10/20/2008

[famousyellowz]

I am running the Nismo S-Tune suspension on my '04 Track with no issues at all.

Go for it.

[Robs_altima]

Ended up calling up Nismoparts.com, I guess their dealership does a lot more nismo stuff than the one in my area. Apparently the front bumper is rounded more or less on the 2006 and up, either way he said there's lip for both. It's just frustrating sometimes with dealerships. The one place you should be able to count on for accurate information and they don't even have that.

[Anthonysflying]

I am running the Nismo S-Tune suspension on my '04 Track with no issues at all.

Go for it.

Big difference there. A VDC(vehicle dynamic control) car will not be happy with an altered suspension. the system is set up for little variance from stock. your Track edition most likely has a TCS(traction control) button that you can turn off for the track. The touring edition has a VDC button which you would have to turn off... every time you started the car. That might work but there are two things. VDC keeps your car on the road, and may also affect your ABS.Not only during spirited driving but more importantly during emergency maneuvers. I know the TCS did!. VDC also works injunction with the differential. i believe its a differential braking system, when the vehicle senses one tire is spinning braking force is applied to that side in order to transfer power to the other tire. Altering the suspension would most likely give the computer the idea that you are slipping constantly. Choose your parts carefully and good luck

[rmezz13]

OK i am lost.... are you looking to put 350Z Nismo parts on a 2008 Altima?

Also, as you'll learn through life, you can never ever trust a dealership. The only thing you can count on them for, is a good raping w/out a reach around.

[Robs_altima]

Got rid of the Altima for the 350Z. Just didn't think it though when I created my user name here.

Again I called Nismoparts and spoke with the "Nismo guy" as the called him and he told me they've installed the shocks and strut assembly on the touring coupes with VDC and they said they worked fine. I was just hoping to get some support from the 350Z community here. I'll do some more searching before doing anything. I'd love to get the brakes, wheels, and suspension done before winter so I can focus clear on a bolt on turbo kit for the spring. Do worry I plan to build soon after but why not have some fun first.

[famousyellowz]

Big difference there. A VDC(vehicle dynamic control) car will not be happy with an altered suspension. the system is set up for little variance from stock. your Track edition most likely has a TCS(traction control) button that you can turn off for the track. The touring edition has a VDC button which you would have to turn off... every time you started the car. That might work but there are two things. VDC keeps your car on the road, and may also affect your ABS.Not only during spirited driving but more importantly during emergency maneuvers. I know the TCS did!. VDC also works injunction with the differential. i believe its a differential braking system, when the vehicle senses one tire is spinning braking force is applied to that side in order to transfer power to the other tire. Altering the suspension would most likely give the computer the idea that you are slipping constantly. Choose your parts carefully and good luck

News Flash!Track models came with VDC. 88K miles and still no problems.

[R350Zz33]

Got rid of the Altima for the 350Z. Just didn't think it though when I created my user name here.

so I can focus clear on a bolt on turbo kit for the spring. Do worry I plan to build soon after but why not have some fun first.

bolt on turbo for a z u make it sound so easy and simple. if you want to know anything abut turboing a z i refer you to jet who i think is on his 3rd engine and 2nd turbo system. sure its easy on paper and saying it but its doing it right that counts.

[rmezz13]

JETPILOT conclusion is building it right, and going with the GReddy TT set up. The GReddy turbos also show to be more efficient than the garrett turbo's... He dislikes the turbonetics single turbo set up (from his experience) but i have talked to a couple of people (previous to my time at nico) that we're extremely pleased with the turbonetics kit. One of which who ran his @ 9psi for well over a year on stock internals, and had no issues. I personally would take JETPILOTS word for it, just want to show that there is success with both set ups.

I think if the car is not specifically for track, or you can't afford to have it down all the time for repairs and tuning, but you want forced induction - Supercharge it, more reliable (not to be mistaken with more efficient - turbo's are more efficient). I preferably would go with the ATI Procharger over the rest. Comes with a front mount, and doesn't require any tapping into the engine oil supply. It has its own oil reservoir built on the charger its self. I believe it holds 2oz's of the procharger oil, and is only required to change ever other oil change, or every 6000 miles. If you install the kit your self, your likely to see 340 whp, but if you take it somewhere for tuning they could get up to 380 whp with that set up. I would probably ad an actually fuel pump (not the inline one it comes with) and some bigger injectors and probably a bigger front mount, then have it conservatively tuned at about 360-380 whp just to keep it less likely to break... Honestly i think 360whp would be great on this car on stock internals, and for regular use.

Sorry for the long reply.Sorry JETPILOT if speaking on behalf of your previous posts offended you, if you want let me know and i can edit it...

-Ryan

[Robs_altima]

Oh, I know turbocharging N/A engine isn't for the faint of heart and isn't reliable. Twins on the Z is just that much harder, I've had my hand in two installs so far. I have every intension of building the block with a turbo install. I'm sorry if I sounded so blunt and nonshalon about it. The thing I was considering was to get a little fun out of the stock block which only has 10k miles on it.

Anyways, thanks for the info on the VDC guys. Always good to hear from the guys who have done it over the service techs and mechanics that are reading from manuals.

Now I just have to change my user name and start over here so I can rid myself of my Altima name….