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[MrSoutherland]

What's up everyone! I have been a prowler of this site for a long time and figured it was time to introduce myself as I do a lot of searching and reading on this site.I'm looking forward to finishing my project car and making it come to life. I will post up a build thread within the next week or so (not that there's already enough of them) and get some feed back and advice from you expirienced 240 builders.I now have my second 240 and have been messing with it for a litle while when I have the time. However recently I had my other S13 for 5 yrs and sold it to a friend after having a kid. Wish I would have never sold it! He sold it to some ricer fanboi.

2nd Car: Purchased S13 with a blown sr20 for $1500 Needs paint and suspension work. Already ordered new LCA's, inner/outter rods, master poly bushing kit. It's sitting on tein springs and won't worry about coils until the motor is finished.

Motor: The guy said the builder messed up the rebuild but this thing is destroyed!I just sold the head and am looking at long block's right now.

Question-- I found a long block for $300 but it has a spun bearing... Is that a good deal? I read last night that replacing the crank on a spun bearing block is a must.

[nos487]

Let's see some pics!

[MrSoutherland]

You can see a dent in the rear there that needs to be popped



Here's a pic of the blown motor. Once I get the rest of it out this will be all cleaned up and painted. What color should I be going for here? Thinking of going with black on the exterior, maybe factory and just paint bay black... Not sure on that point and I'm planning on knocking this out real soon. Opinion's?

[s13_chris]

I'd stay red. Unless you go all out and basically strip the car you'll be dissapointed. I was when I just did exterior paint. Get a new shiny new coat of red. Add some more gloss/candy to make it really pop but I'd stay red.

[OM3GA]

Yeah black would be clean just make sure you spray the interior too, you could have them just spray primer and clear on the interior, just as long as its not red.. Like this here

That car used to be aztec red inside and out. Engine bay is matte black.

[baron_harkkonen]

Thread jack. Hey, i'm taking my dash out to check possible wiring problem, and havin problems with the bezel around the cluster, how do i get it off?!?!?! I've got all the bolts and switches off. /jack.

[MrSoutherland]

^Dude are you kidding me!? Try searching instead of jackin my thread up!

[MrSoutherland]

I'm leaning more towards keeping the stock color and painting the bay black at least. What color rims would look nice with the stock red though?I'm not happy with the sport max's on there now, but they will do there job untill I'm done with everything else.

[baron_harkkonen]

^Dude are you kidding me!? Try searching instead of jackin my thread up!

What color rims would look nice with the stock red though?

Question-- I found a long block for $300 but it has a spun bearing... Is that a good deal? I read last night that replacing the crank on a spun bearing block is a must.

Dude, all I was doin was askin for assistance. You've asked twice for help. Maybe you should do some searchin yourself. D*****bag.

[MrSoutherland]

^ Notice I asked for assistance in MY OWN THREAD and not your thread.

[baron_harkkonen]

Yeah, but if you did, I wouldn't freak out about it. So instead of makin a WHOLE new thread, I saw the stripped interior and asked for help. If you can't get passed that, then you need some help. Aren't we here to help each other out?

[jeff420]

moar pics!!! lol. if you paint the jambs and what not id say go with another color. i hate it when you see a nice car and then they open the door and the jambs are another color lol. if your keeping full interior theres really no need to paint inside. id shy away from motors with spun bearings personally

baron_harkkonen are you serious? its very easy to take that piece out. not only are you too stupid to search something that im sure is covered somewhere but your messin up this guys thread as well? heres how you solve your problem, sell your 240 and go buy a kia, your not even worthy of a honda

and i see you have a honda too.....sell that as well. your not worthy

[baron_harkkonen]

jeff420 ur right, i didn't mean to mess the guys thread up, not intentionally. I got it out, already did the searchin, tried everything, then got it out. you say i'm not worthy of the 240 or the honda, we'll see. the civic, best car i've ever owned. did all the mods personally, with help from friends. i'm not into trash talkin other people, just asked for a little help.

[Wretched]

Not only did you thread jack...but you jacked a thread that has NOTHING to do with your question, and that's where you failed. Anyway, OP, if you paint the car, keep it the same color with a gloss black bay...and $300 is a pretty good deal for a long block. Just throw a crank kit in it and roll.

[MrSoutherland]

moar pics!!! lol. if you paint the jambs and what not id say go with another color. i hate it when you see a nice car and then they open the door and the jambs are another color lol. if your keeping full interior theres really no need to paint inside. id shy away from motors with spun bearings personally

I do agree with staying all one color myself too. Stripping interior is being debated right now so I might just paint the whole damn car. The longblock for 3 bills seems too good to be true now as I research a little more. I think I might jut stick with another "good" motor from an importer I found for $700 and cross my fingers.

OP, if you paint the car, keep it the same color with a gloss black bay...and $300 is a pretty good deal for a long block. Just throw a crank kit in it and roll.

Throwing a new crank involves more than I thought. Unless anyone disagree's, but $300 for a spun bearing longblock seems ok OR $700 from an importer on a "good compression tested motor" and cross the fingers.

jeff420 ur right, i didn't mean to mess the guys thread up, not intentionally. I got it out, already did the searchin, tried everything, then got it out. you say i'm not worthy of the 240 or the honda, we'll see. the civic, best car i've ever owned. did all the mods personally, with help from friends. i'm not into trash talkin other people, just asked for a little help.

[MrSoutherland]

BTW- I'm all about the gloss black engine bay and it looks like sex but I'd be so afraid to scratch it with doing so much work. I'm good with tools, but not always delicate in tight spots. Some times you just have to ram things a lil....Lol

[jeff420]

i did my bay flat black. its aight. im prolly gonna go with a semigloss black next. stripped interiors are totally overated. i got my car with no carpet and i hated it. hot as hell in the summer and froze my balls off in the winter lol. not to mention the extra noise. imo its not worth the small loss of weight. just add more boost

[baron_harkkonen]

Alright, you win MrSoutherland, I appoligize for messin up your thread. OP, if you do decide to put a crank in it, it would be alot easier/cheaper to put a crank kit in it. That way your bearings match the crank/rod journals and you don't have to second guess anything. Also see if you can get the crank balanced. Y not? I got mine done for $50. I know alot of people in the right places. Comes with the job.

[MrSoutherland]

Thanks Vic.When you say crank kit I'm thinking stroker kit. 2.1 or 2.2 right? If I go that route then I will be spending some big bucks to go with the supporting mods. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what your saying or not knowing what your talking about.Regardless though I'll balance any crank I get my hands on for security.

Guy's go to this thread and help me vote for which route to take. zerothread?id=454296

[MrSoutherland]

More pics!Here's the blown type x blacktop. Lots of work to do with stripping and cleaning everything up. Just going to do a simple wire tuck and leaning towards a glossy black bay.

Look at how the rod beat the crap out of the side of the motor! It's like this on both sides.

This looks fun.

[baron_harkkonen]

Thanks Vic.When you say crank kit I'm thinking stroker kit. 2.1 or 2.2 right? If I go that route then I will be spending some big bucks to go with the supporting mods. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what your saying or not knowing what your talking about.Regardless though I'll balance any crank I get my hands on for security.

Guy's go to this thread and help me vote for which route to take. zerothread?id=454296

Whoa dude, a stroker kit means you are gonna either increase or decrease (I don't remeber which one as I try to stay away from them) the STROKE of the engine. The amount of travel that the piston is moving is what you are messin with. A crank kit comes with: crankshaft, main bearings, and rod bearings. The mains and rod bearings are matched to the crank and you can order it in many sizes. The most common are: standart, .010" over, .020" over, and for extreme wear and rare occasions .030" I'm not entirely to sure if stroker kits come with them, but I'd at least check out the full description of the kit. If it doesn't say anything about it, use the contact info from the people that you are gettin it from.

EDIT: Also while messin with the stroke increases/decreases (once again don't remember) the compression ratio. If you plan on runnin a turbo setup, go with the lower ratio.
Modified by baron_harkkonen at 3:09 PM 10/5/2009

[MrSoutherland]

I understand what a stroker kit is and does. I'm just not spending $700 or so on a "new" or "knifed" crank. I think if worse case you just got a block with bad rings and just have the crank balanced for $50 like you. Rebuild with a crank that cost way less.

[baron_harkkonen]

Yeah, i get wut ur sayin. Btw, I'm not sayin that a gettin a crank balanced is $50, that's just what it cost me. I know ALOT of people that I've help out b4. Like I said, comes with the job. Job bein I'm a partsman. I've helped out a bunch of people by givin advice, gettin parts that no1 else could or tried to do, givin breaks, etc. I'm known in my city as one of the best parts people here. I work at a Carquest/Timmons International Truck Center. With 2yrs prior at each, NAPA and AutoZone. I've got alot of connections in all the right places.

[Wretched]

Haha, no, a crank kit is not a stroker kit. Crank kit is just that...a stock crank replacement. Comes with bearings and such. A stroker kit involves an entire rebuild.

[MrSoutherland]

Where's the best place to find a "crank kit"? I have searched I'm just missing something I guess.

EDIT- I found a kit with all bearings and trust washers for $362.I'll keep looking but that doesn't seem too bad.
Modified by MrSoutherland at 8:36 AM 10/6/2009

[baron_harkkonen]

who'd u price it through?

[MrSoutherland]

http://www.rpmrons.com/nissan,cranks.htmlUnwelded reman.

I just talked to the guy at autozone and he said himself he wouldn't trust a reman crank from autozone.

[baron_harkkonen]

I got mine from NAPA when i worked there. Bearings and all looked great. Still got the bearings in the box.

[MrSoutherland]

So if I'm building up my head and upping the boost, can I trust a crank from NAPA?Wouldn't autozone use the same company as NAPA?

[baron_harkkonen]

No, different supplier altogether. Asa I get my buddy's camera from her, i'll get a pic up of the crank.