NICO ECU is ON!!!

[3Q Jay]

alright fellas, don't hate. Robert lives close enough that i went and got it in person.

the big news is: 90-93 TCS version works with the TCS in the 94!!

other observations: idle smooth, program seems to come on at 2250, definitely snappier there.

haven't pushed it past 5500 yet, as the one time i got there i started to hear pinging (my timing light seems to be flakey and not sure if i'm at 15° or 25°--got to get another).

you will definitely want this mod!!!

[Rex]

Get that timing set and give us some higher RPM thoughts.

[Q45denver]

Is there an easy way to hook up the timing light without having to remove the ornamental covers?

[elwesso]

check Q45.org theres a thing i did how to check the timing..... takes 5 mins

[3Q Jay]

or here.

zer...age=1

backed it off 10°, mostly now reads 15, occasionally stiill reads 5deg. this is using method 'B'.

going to dinner and see how she does.....

[3Q Jay]

ping is gone, off-idle to 2250 is a bit flat.upto 6000, no strange sounds. will go to redline soon.good rush from 2250 up.

[chinaonnitrous]

ping is gone, off-idle to 2250 is a bit flat.upto 6000, no strange sounds. will go to redline soon.good rush from 2250 up.

I wanted mine first. =(

[jedi_sol]

This may be a newb question, but im just curious what exactly does the NICO ecu do, in terms of performance gains?

-James

[elwesso]

will add, i think around 40hp

[chinaonnitrous]

Im probably going to dyno with the stock ecu for the 1st run....and the last 2 pulls throw in your ECU....

I wonder if hte car will "learn" the new ecu right away, or just unplug the battery for a few mins....

[rsiwicki]

I will be doing a dyno pull & new 1/4 times in January. You can't dyno that closely back to back swaping ECU's because the fluids get heated up from the first dyno pull and subsequent pulls will read less powerful. It will give ya some idea of HP gains, but it will not be exact as neither will my dyno runs be exact having done my last dyno pull about 9 months ago under different conditions.

I just paid everybody today for the ECU so as soon as I get it I will head to the track and dyno. I have done a totally stock dyno pull & heavily modified JWT with headers, etc. dyno pull and countless track times (over 60 runs) so when I get this new ECU we should be able to establish a pretty damn good baseline difference in 1/4 times and extrapolate to dyno numbers as well.

I am very excited to get a new toy for the Q.

btw...today was my first day driving in 35 days having been in London and it felt so dam good not to mention I raced an RX8 & MB C230 Kompressor.....they went flying past me on the freeway and so I tagged along casually on their butt pissing them off until traffic cleared safely and we went at it with me passing both of them with ease and the dudes friends in the passenger seat laughing their butts off how bad I pulled on the driver friend. It was a good Q day indeed.

[RobertsnewQ]

These ECUs are totally rudimentary - there's not "learning" involved.

Rob - Are you sending me an already-modified ECU or a stock one?

Also, I do sometimes hear pinging around 5500 RPM with 91 octane and a tuned ECU. There's a real high-advance "band" around that point in the stock timing that I've kept. I think I'll back it off a bit for the other 91 octane ECUs. If you want, I can send an updated chip.

[elwesso]

im not getting any pinging, we'll see once we get to warmer weather.

[3Q Jay]

went and got another timing lite. read 15° both banks (#1,left & #6 on pass bank, right.) then went out and made several hard runs.after it kicks in (more like 2150) the pull is nice and strong.

not gonna say much more just yet, except that for the first time in my Q's history, the needle was submerged in red. quite an exhilirating sound!!

[3rd Q]

These ECUs are totally rudimentary - there's not "learning" involved.

Rob - Are you sending me an already-modified ECU or a stock one?

Also, I do sometimes hear pinging around 5500 RPM with 91 octane and a tuned ECU. There's a real high-advance "band" around that point in the stock timing that I've kept. I think I'll back it off a bit for the other 91 octane ECUs. If you want, I can send an updated chip.

Robert,I'm shipping Rob's stock ECU w/TCS to you tomorrow as well as my own stock ECU non-TCS/non-active. Rob can chime in on what level of mod he'd like on his and I'll attach a note to mine.

Was telling Wes yesterday that I was going through a huge list of car-part.com boneyards with ECUs hoping that somebody might have had a JWT modded one. You guys saved me about 75 calls and hours of legwork.Thanks for putting this together!Paul

[elwesso]

glad to help!!!!!!

We already took care of Rob's ECU... I emailed Robert and talked to rob on the phone yesterday on what he wants done..... Just be sure to differentiate between which ECU is yours (paul) and which one is Robs..

[tkd_q45]

Don't know if this has been answered but will this pass CA smog test? Jay - let us know if you see any better MPG - can use all that can be had!

[jedi_sol]

Is this ecu designed to work along any additional mods? Or is it just as effective on a stock motor?

-James

[RobertsnewQ]

Well, since the sum total of available mods for the engine is only an intake filter, I would say yes

Seriously, it won't make any difference. If you get 1 hp from a filter and 10 hp from headers, it will be the same with the ECU. That's the advantage of a MAF-equipped system.

If you've removed your cats, I can add fuel in the midrance and remove the EGRs, but don't do that if you have cats.

The "basic" tune will pass CA emissisons fine - I don't mess with that area of the maps. If you want the more hardcore tune with richer midrange and more advance, it may or may not pass, I haven't tried.

[3Q Jay]

Tom, i don't see any reason why it would trip the smog test..the EGR is still functional, the cats are still installed. i suppose constant flogging might kill the cats....but i don't drive hard all the time.way too soon to tell on mileage. i topped just before the new ecu, and was below 3/4 by 50 miles . but a lot of that was 'testing'

[elwesso]

Well, since the sum total of available mods for the engine is only an intake filter, I would say yes

Seriously, it won't make any difference. If you get 1 hp from a filter and 10 hp from headers, it will be the same with the ECU. That's the advantage of a MAF-equipped system.

If you've removed your cats, I can add fuel in the midrance and remove the EGRs, but don't do that if you have cats.

The "basic" tune will pass CA emissisons fine - I don't mess with that area of the maps. If you want the more hardcore tune with richer midrange and more advance, it may or may not pass, I haven't tried.

Robert, did you do that with mine??? I am sans cats..

[JedCoop]

Robert,

This is really fantastic... I have been off line for a little, and now. whoa. I am actually excited about this.

So I have just picked up a '92 TCS ECU I found on http://www.car-parts.com for $75 delivered. I'll have it maybe Friday.

I mean, you have something that will work well with CA 91? Soooo good.

I see three threads about this topic, this is the newest, so I am replying here. - should I email you directly to set this up?

Thanks!

[elwesso]

If oyu have any questions, you can email me, im the "technical support representative" I guess.....

[RobertsnewQ]

Yeah, ask Wes. He knows the drill. 91 octane is my specialty

Not by choice, of course!

[chinaonnitrous]

Any idea if I can get one out to cali before Dec 30th? Prefferably the 29th. Im leaving for southern california, and will probably have free access to a Dyno.

I would totally like to have this in the car. If its shipping, I will pay for Priority, or some kind of upgraded shipping...as long as it dosent cost me more than 20 dollars more to get it here by the 29th.

=)

[Jeff Williams]

I can't wait for mine. My new knock sensors on Lola will be put to good use, now!

I use nothing but 93 octane in my cars, so "Pump it up!"

[elwesso]

I think that Robert made a new program that is better than mine that he is putting on everyone elses..... I get it in a few days.....

[DrewQ45]

I can't wait for mine. My new knock sensors on Lola will be put to good use, now!

I use nothing but 93 octane in my cars, so "Pump it up!"

Jeff, I guess that means you're getting the agressive program.

I'm still undecided on that one. My Q engine runs great and always has but I've never changed KS or injectors and have yet to change the under-plenum hoses. Currently I'm at 192K.

...Drew....

[Jeff Williams]

Layla needs knock sensors, under plenum hoses, and a transmission rebuild eventually. I may just leave here stock - she runs so nicely.

Lola need nothing, so she gets the re-programmed ECU.

[DrewQ45]

Lola need nothing, so she gets the re-programmed ECU.

Yeah but which program are you going with, standard or agressive which allows higher RPMs?