NFL 2010

[Bubba1]

Damn, Manning bowl was never close. Also Redskins, take note of how the Colts hold a lead.

The Giants wish they could play the Panthers every week after tonight's a** whooping.

As compared to Dallas that has yet to win a game against anyone? I'm sure Mount Jerry is about to erupt.

The Giants did get spanked by a good team, though I thought it would have been closer given how Houston beat Indy so easily last week.

[timay]

Yes, it's true. Cowboys are the most sad team in the nfc east right now, they have a defense and offense that should be playoff if not super bowl caliber, but they aren't playing up to their potential. I thought once we got our 2 starting O-line guys back this week that it was going to be a sure win, then again in the NFL there are never any sure wins (see colts-saints super bowl).

It's funny the scheduling this year, Giants go from the Panthers to the Colts, Eagles go from the Packers to the Lions, Redskins get a shaft job and go from the Cowboys to the Texans, and the Cowboys go from the Redskins to the Bears. Now...which of these teams should be 0-2? Yeah not the Cowboys, we really need to get it together.

Yet, Jerry Jones says he has total confidence in Wade Phillips and all decisions are Wade's. How in the hell can he keep having confidence in Phillips? Hes been a bumbling moron on the sideline for years.

[mmkeller]

I see Jerry making a course correction in the near future, Wade out, Garret in. Now they face the Texans in Houston, uugh... can't go 0-3 in today's NFL.

[Bubba1]

I see Jerry making a course correction in the near future, Wade out, Garret in. Now they face the Texans in Houston, uugh... can't go 0-3 in today's NFL.

+1. I'm wondering if Wade still has a job because he has pics of Jerry on all fours wearing a tutu, high heels, and a spiked dog collar. Jerry's impatience is legendary having dumped several HOF caliber coaches during his reign. I also think Garrett will be their next head coach sometime this season. If Jerry doesn't do it this season, I'm sure Garret will be a head coach elsewhere next season.

[ADDirishboy]

Manning Bowl II sucked hard. That game was never interesting.

[AZhitman]

Falcons win.

Cowboys lose.

Vick goes bananas.

It was a good day in the NFL.

[ADDirishboy]

Would have been better if the Cards didn't lose 41-7....

[Chaotic_Warlord]

After yesterday's performance Vick proved that he is still a starting QB stuck in the secondary line. The city is all aflutter and in love with him and wants him to be the new starting QB, but Andy Reid in his all knowing genius still maintains that Kolb is the must have guy to be the starting QB for the Eagles. Let me just say that Andy Reid is already hated in this city for any number of reasons, and his genius has yet to prove to really be genius, but just dumb luck. Personally I see Vick going places very very soon since the last call for trades is on the horizon, he's going to want to go somewhere where he can actually play the game and not sit on the sidelines and be forced to watch a lesser/weaker QB do his job.

[alms24sebring]

Yeah Im still super pissed about the Redskins game. I didnt post yestreday bc I was sooo upset and if they got flamed just once (Timay!!), I would have been kicked off of Nico and went to prison for murder. But they lost in a game where they shouldnt have... again. I think its in the blood of the Skins to lose after being far in the lead, no matter who plays for them. This happened too many times 2 seasons ago and beyond. Un f***ing exceptable.

The time out called during the fieldgoal was the biggest thing that got my blood boiling. I mean what a homofag Texas move that was. I think it was 2 seasons ago when the same thing happened, but I dont remember who we played. There should be a rule against that or saying TO has to be called 5 seconds before the play or something. Absolute bullcrap.

As far as the competition, I think we are good in that department, its keeping the lead and/or steadily increasing points. Landry was a beast, McNabb, Cooley, & Moss were good, Portis sucked. I think they rely too much on McNabb. There were points in the game were I was yelling at the TV to run the ball when they should have ran it.

Theres to my thoughts but Ill leave it at that. I hate loving the Redskins

[Bubba1]

After yesterday's performance Vick proved that he is still a starting QB stuck in the secondary line. The city is all aflutter and in love with him and wants him to be the new starting QB, but Andy Reid in his all knowing genius still maintains that Kolb is the must have guy to be the starting QB for the Eagles. Let me just say that Andy Reid is already hated in this city for any number of reasons, and his genius has yet to prove to really be genius, but just dumb luck. Personally I see Vick going places very very soon since the last call for trades is on the horizon, he's going to want to go somewhere where he can actually play the game and not sit on the sidelines and be forced to watch a lesser/weaker QB do his job.

Uh, Andy Reid is not hated in the city of Brudderly Love. You sound like you listen to those haters at WIP radio. Those are the same idiots that booed McNabb on draft day amd made the city look foolish. Reid is a tremendous football mind. You don't take a team to 5 NFC Championship games in 10 years (including 4 consecutive NFC East titles) without having exceptional coaching skills. If Reid has a weakness, it's clock management. He also doesn't say much to reporters, which is a main reason the local press dislikes him. He also has two drug addicted sons who provide the local media plenty of embarrassing fodder. But the man assembled a great coaching staff. He had a gem in late Jim Johnson, and his replacement has done well. Geez, I'm a Giants fan, and I can see they are well coached.

I also think Reid was right with Kolb. Kolb earned the starter job. If you recall, McNabb got injured last year and Kolb filled in with some great starts. McNabb was still the starter. This season is no different. At best, Vick's good play should be a motivator for Kolb to do well.

Lurie and Reid made a shrewd gamble with Vick. No other team wanted him. Heck Philly fans did not embrace him immediately. (remember "hide the beagle, Vick's an Eagle"? ) WIP happens to love him at the moment because of his recent good play. Those jerks will turn ugly on him as soon as he throws a game losing interception.

There's never been a question that Vick has skills. It was his crimes that kept teams away. If he keeps his nose clean and continues to play well, I have little doubt other teams will take a chance on him and make him a starting QB again.

[AZhitman]

I contend that they were stupid to shy away from him in the first place. Other athletes have done worse, yet they get a slap on the wrist.

He got bandwagon'ed, scapegoat'ed and railroaded by weak people afraid of alienating a fan base.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

I don't listen to WIP, though I have heard it (riding with prior co-workers) and yes they do have their fill of haters, but at the same time there are a lot of fanatical Eagle's fans that call in there, and both Mikey Misonelli and Howard Eskin both defend Andy Reid every time a hater calls in. We also haven't heard about the Reid boys in over a year, so that shouldn't be a factor. I'm not saying Andy Reid isn't a good coach, after all he did make the Eagles into a winning team, I'm saying that having the power that he does he keeps wasting his draft picks and trades on defense men when what thie team really needs (and it's been discussed to death) are some quality receivers. Now that their quality receivers have either retired or left the team, so they don't really have any solid receivers (unless you count Desean Jackson). My other complaint with Andy Reid is that he has Vick in his pocket, but for whatever reason is weary about using him to his fullest, I mean come on, they brought him on to boost sales only to use him in the Wildcat offense (which i understand was their plan from the start) that they never really used unless they had absolutely no choice. I understand they still had Mcnabb, and he was getting the job done, but the same time Mcnabb is extremely injury prone (you can't say he isn't) and instead of using Vick they opted to go with Kolb. Next thing you know Kolbs going to go free agent and jump to another team and then they'll be left with Vick as starting QB and I really don't think he won't jump ship with the first offer to come down the pike. yeah they signed him on a 5 year contract, but that's what trades are for.

[Bubba1]

Missanelli has not been on WIP for a few years. I'm more referring to Angelo Cataldi and his morning zoo. Your views seem similar to theirs.

As info, Jackson happens to be among of the better receivers in the NFL, and was drafted by Reid, who you say wastes picks. Also, since Reid tries to execute a dink/dunk pass- happy west coast offense, he tends to go after more of a possession type receiver (like Avant, drafted by Reid too), plus soft handed tight ends like Celek (Interesting, Reid drafted him too), and a talented versatile back in Macklin. Gee, Macklin was also a Reid draft pick.

As far as Vick's signing, in Reid/Lurie's interviews, they did not bring him in to increase sales. They said Vick was signed as an experienced BACKUP and what better backup to have than a 3-4 time pro bowler, and for very little $$. You forget no one wanted Vick. Essentially he was hired as cheap insurance for an injury prone McNabb. Reid added some "wildcat" plays, to take advantage of some of Vick's talents but the wildcat plays were not why Vick was signed. And if you think about the Iggles offensive system, Kolb is more a natural fit. Vick is not really a west coast offense type of QB. He's more of an improvisational natural talent leader the way Randall Cunningham was. highly unpredictable but very exciting to watch. Difficult to defend, and difficult to manage.

If Vick has a great year, it's even better for Reid, as Vick's value will have increased so that they will get a lot in return if he does go elsewhere. Plus Reid will get deservedly get credit for being smart for signing him when no one else would. I think you're off target with your gripes about the man. He's a great coach and has the track record to prove it. I'd prefer if he coached in a different division, so my team didn't have to face him twice per year.

Oh and as for Andy Reids kids, if they're out of prison, they're probably on parole, and/or in rehab. It's a shame the local media devoted so much coverage on them.

[Poyzinous]

The time out called during the fieldgoal was the biggest thing that got my blood boiling. I mean what a homofag Texas move that was. I think it was 2 seasons ago when the same thing happened, but I dont remember who we played. There should be a rule against that or saying TO has to be called 5 seconds before the play or something. Absolute bullcrap.
kins

Want to know who started the whole "icing the kicker with a timeout" thing? Shannahan. Yup, the Skins coach, started it. I think it's hilarious his invention worked against him. He deserves to be on the wrong end of it for using it maliciously in the first place against the Bills in 2008.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

The time out called during the fieldgoal was the biggest thing that got my blood boiling. I mean what a homofag Texas move that was. I think it was 2 seasons ago when the same thing happened, but I dont remember who we played. There should be a rule against that or saying TO has to be called 5 seconds before the play or something. Absolute bullcrap.
kins

Want to know who started the whole "icing the kicker with a timeout" thing? Shannahan. Yup, the Skins coach, started it. I think it's hilarious his invention worked against him. He deserves to be on the wrong end of it for using it maliciously in the first place against the Bills in 2008.

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/footbal ... ker-102308

Both of you should probably read that article ^^^, and for the record icing the kicker has been around before Shanahan did it, he just happened to have been the first to do it after the rule change in 07.

[Poyzinous]

interesting... either way, my main point about Shannahan getting screwed back is still valid

[Dano]

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS W00T!

[RCA]

Hey NICO, Jet fan here...

Can I have your thoughts on the Miami Dolphins?

[Poyzinous]

No offense. Jets will win 27-13

[BusyBadger]

Yes, it's true. Cowboys are the most sad team in the nfc east right now, they have a defense and offense that should be playoff if not super bowl caliber, but they aren't playing up to their potential.

$166 mil payroll and they're 0-2. That's more than the combined payroll of KC & Tampa, both 2-0. It seems that following the Yankees blueprint of buying their way to the top hasn't really worked out for Big D. I was happy to see the doc keep Witten out of the game after getting his bell rung. Best play Dallas made all day.

[AZhitman]

F*** Dallas. That is all.

[RCA]

F*** Dallas. That is all.

Why are you not a fan of Dallas? Was it because they used to share a division with Arizona?

No offense. Jets will win 27-13

Really?

09 Stats:

Running game was ranked: 4th overall
Ricky Williams 241att 1121yds 4.7avg 11tds
Ronnie Brown 147att 648yds 4.4avg 8tds
Lousaka Polite 37ztt 123yds 3.3avg 0tds

Passing game was ranked: 20th
But look who Henne had to throw to...

Davone Bess 76rec 758yds 10.0agv 2tds
Greg Camarillo 50rec 552yds 11.0avg 0tds
Ted Ginn Jr. 38rec 454yds 11.9avg 1tds
Brian Hartline 31rec 506yds 16.3avg 3tds
Anthony Fasano 31rec 339yds 10.9avg 2tds

None of these guys are #1 WRs on 95% of NFL teams. Essentially they have one #2 WR (Bess) and the rest are #3s. Fasano is the truth though.

All that being said, there team only got better this season with getting rid of Gin and getting Marshall.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Vick has been made the starting QB for the beagles, there's a chance that Kolb will get traded at the deadline... Apparently Andy Reid still have some tricks up his sleeve, either that or he is tired of hearing everyone complain how he doesn't listen to the fans (which really isn't his job, but it's interoffice politics soooo). Needless to say everyone is still in the dark, as usual, but apparently Andy Reid made the comment that Kolb can learn a lot about how to be a starting QB by watching Vick, and then stated that Vick would probably be the new starting.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5601286

[Poyzinous]

09 Stats:

.

Its not 2009 though. The Dolphins have struggled this year. The Jets defense will limit them to 2 or 3 scores. The offense gets plenty of rushing yards, but they have no passing yards and barely put up points. The offense has only scored 2 TD's so far this season.

[RCA]

The offense has only scored 2 TD's so far this season.

Wow, didn't even notice that.

There defense is keeping them in games huh...

Jets getting 2 points... I'll take it... Money line.

[Ajax]

I see Jerry making a course correction in the near future, Wade out, Garret in. Now they face the Texans in Houston, uugh... can't go 0-3 in today's NFL.

+1. I'm wondering if Wade still has a job because he has pics of Jerry on all fours wearing a tutu, high heels, and a spiked dog collar. Jerry's impatience is legendary having dumped several HOF caliber coaches during his reign. I also think Garrett will be their next head coach sometime this season. If Jerry doesn't do it this season, I'm sure Garret will be a head coach elsewhere next season.

Good lord, if anything, Dallas needs to get rid of Garret- he has no idea how to run an offense.

I was really excited for this season after getting back into football last year (raised near Dallas, moved just before the 3 SB wins). Before that I only watched on Thanksgiving. My local Fox station would not play the Dallas-Chicago game in favor of hair-club infomercials- its going to be tough to care about football ever again. How does a National TV station play a pregame show to build-up all the games around the league and then not air a single game?!?

[Skyline_BNR34]

Well at least you guys aren't Bills Fans.

I'm way more excited about Hockey season starting instead.

[Poyzinous]

I love hockey. Lots of fighting and battling. I hate the intermissions when everyone stops punching and start skating aimlessly after a little black puck though... Wish they'd leave that part out.

[alms24sebring]

F*** Dallas. That is all.

I think Vick is one hell of a QB. Hes fast as hell and shows hes a decent football player. The whole dog fighting thing doesnt really bother me. I like him cause he shows hes still got it after his time away. F*** Kolb too, what a waste he turned out to be.

[timay]

None of these guys are #1 WRs on 95% of NFL teams. Essentially they have one #2 WR (Bess) and the rest are #3s. Fasano is the truth though.

All that being said, there team only got better this season with getting rid of Gin and getting Marshall.

They got rid of Camarillo too, which I feel was a big mistake, because after Marshall, leaves a lot to be desired with that wide receiver corps.