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Information on the naturally-aspirated KA24E and KA24DE engines.
rob808
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hi all newbie here as u can tell.well im proud to say that im a new owner of an s13 with 121 k miles on it.so far the only thing that needs to b done as far as maintanence goes is to change the master and slave cylinder since im leaking clutch fluid and have to get my springs replaced since im having a neg camber on my rear.so far mods i have that already came with the car was a JG p/p head,pop charger,headers,apex exhaust, jwt performance chip,clutchmasters racing clutch,and a short throw shift.now my question is aside from getting a major tuneup done,anyone recommend the next upgrade path?im building this to b a NA Ka motor.used to have a teg(never going back to FWD..lol)any considerations will b greatly appreciated.thanks in advance!:wavey


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rob808 wrote:hi all newbie here as u can tell.well im proud to say that im a new owner of an s13 with 121 k miles on it.so far the only thing that needs to b done as far as maintanence goes is to change the master and slave cylinder since im leaking clutch fluid and have to get my springs replaced since im having a neg camber on my rear.so far mods i have that already came with the car was a JG p/p head,pop charger,headers,apex exhaust, jwt performance chip,clutchmasters racing clutch,and a short throw shift.now my question is aside from getting a major tuneup done,anyone recommend the next upgrade path?im building this to b a NA Ka motor.used to have a teg(never going back to FWD..lol)any considerations will b greatly appreciated.thanks in advance!:wavey


After you do the tune up get a Vlsd diff. That will make you so happy!

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some pdm cams and some suspension if its not already done. brakes would be good too

rob808
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Thanks Technoman and Structure240 for your recommendations.Already planning on getting the Vlsd since its alot cheaper for me to afford it than the cams right now and as far as springs go,ill b replacing them with some tein stech springs.will post pics up of my ride as soon as i can think of anymore pics to take with my cheap a** disposable..lol..anyone else?

silviaNE
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Maybe you should upgrade your ignition

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Ignitions, Cams, LSD. Replace your timing chain and tension when your putting new cams on as well.

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rob808
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thanks to everyone who posted there recommendations about my future upgrades.im still learning more and more about my 240 and theres so much info to read about but at times its so hard to find answers to questions not yet asked.oh and tonite i tried opening her up.felt good to get pushed back a bit in my seat along with my passenger

silviaNE
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brings back old memories when i drove my s14 of the dealer lot.

rob808
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i remember when i was back in the 10th grade when i first seen this car this was the car that i always was gonna have.used to have a 94 integra but that was stolen back in feb.four months later i found the car i always wanted.i guess like they say patience is a virtue

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JJ240
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You wont need to upgrade your ignition. Stock ignition will have no trouble with the HP you will make NA. And you wont be revving that high either.

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Man i was looking for a 240 3 years ago after i joined the military, now i have found just waiting for me here in my new duty station. i love my car, theres so much i want to do to it, but i dont trust these italian mechanics. I asked one the other day if he could bend me some pipe for my exhust, and he looked at me like i just asked him to run his brand new BMW in to a brick wall then light it on fire. Finally after acouple mins. of telling him i want my engine to run better, faster, more hp yada yada yada. he told me that a exhust would not do anything good for the car just make more noise and that all i have to do is modifiy the ECU(broken english). i plan to do the sr swap, body kit, LSD, ect., ect. but not here theyd probly slap that thing in there sideways and try to make it a FWD. plus i think shipping would kill my wallet. =/

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sound pretty scary plastik

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plastik240se wrote:Man i was looking for a 240 3 years ago after i joined the military, now i have found just waiting for me here in my new duty station. i love my car, theres so much i want to do to it, but i dont trust these italian mechanics. I asked one the other day if he could bend me some pipe for my exhust, and he looked at me like i just asked him to run his brand new BMW in to a brick wall then light it on fire. Finally after acouple mins. of telling him i want my engine to run better, faster, more hp yada yada yada. he told me that a exhust would not do anything good for the car just make more noise and that all i have to do is modifiy the ECU(broken english). i plan to do the sr swap, body kit, LSD, ect., ect. but not here theyd probly slap that thing in there sideways and try to make it a FWD. plus i think shipping would kill my wallet. =/


doesnt everybody say that about putting on an exhaust about making it louder?..lol:pface

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I dont really agree with the pop charger since I saw it loose HP on the 350z. I have a 1998 240sx and I had a injen cold air intake on it. I Got sick of the 4.5 feet of intake pipe. I thought it was rediculus and restrictive and UGLY. I would recomend moving your battery to the trunk, and have a custom intake welded to go down to the front right of the car. Of course your not goin to get any mad amounts of power but it did free up my engine bay and also helped out my throttle response. Also 40 bucks for a CAI isnt bad. Also for handling, i bet most of your bushing are SHOT. Check them out.

Robbie

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hmmm.well about the pop charger,i cant really tell any difference about throttle response but it feels fine to me,since it was already on there,and in my opinion not all nissans respond well to pop chargers,some do some dont.as far as bushings go,i would honestly think that my bushings are shot.if i had the time and money to invest in some polyeurethane bushings i would do the swaps myself but since im no mechanic then i wouldnt know really how to perform them.i guess i have to go out somewhere and look for a factory repair manual.more than likely i need to anyway since i need to have my oil replaced soon..lol..im jus concerned about my master and slave cylinder leaking so i need to have that replaced.

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That VLSD is a good idea, but I also recommend just getting some wider rear tires, traction is everything....

rob808
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ok,say traction is everything but wont the offset of the wider tires throw off the balance of the car itself when say,its time for a rotation with the smaller tires from the front being put in the back and vice versa?i jus replaced my rear tires with the same width,215's but instead of the usual 40's i put on some 45's for ride quality and besides that,i cant afford to buy a whole new set of tires when the 40's are so soft in my opinion,thats why i got me a taller tire for better ride quality and lifespan of the tire,and,i was planning on putting 45's on the front also to match the rears jus so the tires wear evenly when its time to rotate.i can see what u mean tho as far as traction goes but as i said before i cant afford to go through tires and jus pick a set up whenever i feel like it..lol

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MR2's run smaller tires in the front... and if you buy any sort of decent tire, they're directional. what we do is.. not rotate tires :)

with balanced rims, and a good alignment, you shouldnt really need to rotate anyways... if they're lasting that long, you gotta start driving harder :D

rob808
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TomsMR2 wrote:MR2's run smaller tires in the front... and if you buy any sort of decent tire, they're directional. what we do is.. not rotate tires :)

with balanced rims, and a good alignment, you shouldnt really need to rotate anyways... if they're lasting that long, you gotta start driving harder :D


hmm......something to think about.well i never really thought about that idea before.i was always taught to rotate your tires after a certain mileage.but jus something to think about.instead of having wider tires in the back would adding wheel spacers act in the same way as opposed to actually putting "wider" tires?:thinker

rob808
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oh and as far as my aligment goes.my rear is having neg camber.the guy that i bought the car from told me he has some eibach sportlines.told me that it was up to me to put on a camber kit but i figure instead of adding a camber kit why not jus switch out the entire set for another of stech springs from tein's?from what i read they are supposed to have a guarantee against sagging.jus had to add that in:D

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JJ240
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adding spacers would not work the same as having wider tires. The purpose of having wider tires is to have more contact surface with the pavement. If you put spacers on your wheels will just stick out further adding no contact surface.

silviaNE
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but allowing you to use widder tires. Thats the major point of using spacers, also to clear coilover suspensions sometimes.

singlecamhonduhkilla
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rob808 wrote:oh and as far as my aligment goes.my rear is having neg camber.the guy that i bought the car from told me he has some eibach sportlines.told me that it was up to me to put on a camber kit but i figure instead of adding a camber kit why not jus switch out the entire set for another of stech springs from tein's?from what i read they are supposed to have a guarantee against sagging.jus had to add that in:D


if ur gonna take off those sportlines.. ill take them off ur hands free of charge..joe:D

rob808
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hmm ok finally see what u guys mean about having the wider tires.too bad im not on stateside,instead having to live here on an island i call home.would b nice if i had one of u guys to help me or give me advice on tuning my 240.

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Keep the sportlines just get a camber kit from eibach for like 50 bucks saves you a few hundred on the teins especially with shipping to the islands. I have sportlines and they are great but if you really want the teins go for it they are a great product.

Get a tuneup first and fix your master and slave cylinder i did and it really brings life back to your clutch alot quicker afterwards. i got the parts for 30 for the slave and i think 60 for the master from courtesy parts they have really good prices on parts.

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GELLIS2586 wrote:Keep the sportlines just get a camber kit from eibach for like 50 bucks saves you a few hundred on the teins especially with shipping to the islands. I have sportlines and they are great but if you really want the teins go for it they are a great product.

Get a tuneup first and fix your master and slave cylinder i did and it really brings life back to your clutch alot quicker afterwards. i got the parts for 30 for the slave and i think 60 for the master from courtesy parts they have really good prices on parts.


thought about just getting the alignment kit instead of a whole new set of springs.figured i could do something else with the money i was gonna spend on new springs.i think i might need new dampers already since mines feel like they are dead.any recommendations?also looking for a full intake that i can use with my MAF sensor? i think thats what its called.dont know too much about my nissan yet.as always still learning.

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AEM, Injen, OBX all make intakes. Injen is the only company that makes a cold air intake, but most tests show that with the CAI it doesnt make any more HP than the AEM. You can get AEM new on ebay for under $150, you can get OBX new on ebay for under $100, You can get Injen new for around $200 and the cold air extension is another $100.

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$300 for a filter on a stick? holy crap..

rob808
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holy crap is right!:eek: damn dont know which one i wanna get now if i still wanna get one.dont know too much about ebay tho.cant really trust the person selling anything.i might not get what i want if i actually do get it.


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