Newbie setting up for basic KA-T, did I get everything?

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SoCalSilvia
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Hey there guys, I've been reading quite a bit and doing a lot of searching as I get ready to turbo my KA24DE in my 95 S14. I will be going with a very basic setup, and will only run at low boost(never anything above 7, but usually will stay under 5). I'm not looking for some outrageous gains, just a nice beginners turbo kit that won't make my KA unreliable. I guess I will be doing what is considered a "stage 1." Here are my plans, I would appreciate feedback and comments as to whether or not this is a good way to go when going KA-T. Also, something to keep in mind, at this time, my car is an automatic.

First off, I will be going with the SSautochrome turbo kit. For those of you who do not know what it includes, here is a link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT

Since I have heard mixed reviews about the SSautochrome turbo manifold, I am leaning towards getting it reinforced just to be safe. Although I was also thinking since I won't be running my engine that hard or boosting to much, I might not have to.

In addition to the SSautochrome turbo kit which includes: turbo, manifold, wastegate, BOV, and oil lines this is what I am planning on getting: walbro fuel pump, sidemount intercooler with piping, downpipe, stock SR 370cc injectors, tuning with SAFC, gauges, turbo timer, and boost controller. I currently have a 2.5" Greddy SP Exhaust, but I will probably be switching it out in favor of a 3" exhaust.

Now... to my knowledge, that is everything I need for a solid stage 1 turbo kit. Am I forgetting/overlooking anything here? I wanted to get a FMIC, but I think to keep costs down I will stick with a SMIC(r33 stock smic maybe) or perhaps get a Starion FMIC. Any suggestions and input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.


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You'll need hoses and clamps for the intake plumbing.. and other stuff too.

Just get most of the parts, and buy the rest of the parts when you need to install them. That way you won't end up buying too much.

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Get a 300zx TT fuel filter and an aftermarket coil of some kind. You're also going to need to be able to recirculate your BOV so make sure the one you're getting is able to do that. Links not working for me. Have you checked compression on your engine? Did a tune up? Plugs, wires, oil changes, cleaned everything up? If so, then you should be good to go. IF you're not going to be boosting over 7, a 8:1 FMU should do fine and be a lot cheaper than all the fuel stuff you're planning on getting. You probably won't need a boost controller either. I doubt the wastegate has a spring lower than 5psi in it. Make sure your base timing is correct before you go boosting it too.

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here's a link, not sure why the other one doesn't work: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT

Do I have to recirculate my BOV or can I get one that vents into the atmosphere? I will be doing a tune up and getting HKS spark plugs, some new spark plug wires, and maybe the HKS earth grounding system. So if I were to get the 8:1 FMU, I wouldn't need the SAFC or injectors? Because I thought you could only boost up to 5PSI on stock injectors, that is why I thought I had to get the 370cc injectors. I will get the 300zx TT fuel filter, but where can I get an aftermarket coil? Also, do you recommend on getting the Z32 MAF or would that be unecessary?

Thanks for the help guys.

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You need to recirculate your BOV. You can vent to atmosphere, but you will probably stall out every time you let off the gas and push the clutch in. As for the stock injectors, they cannot support more than probably 5psi off of a turbo like the one you're getting, maybe less. But if you increase the fuel pressure behind them, they flow more than 270cc. All the FMU does is increase fuel pressure x amount for each PSI of boost. Most basic auto parts stores sell aftermarket coils. Your stock one should work for now, but look into it soon. No need for the Z32. You only need that if you go past like 250whp. You would need a SAFC or equivalent to compensate for it.

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nissanfanatic wrote:You need to recirculate your BOV. You can vent to atmosphere, but you will probably stall out every time you let off the gas and push the clutch in.
Hmm... does my car being automatic make a difference? Or do I still have to recirculate the BOV? Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it.

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It won't be as important, but I would imagine every time you let off the gas to come to a stop, you would rich out. Some of the KA-T automatic guys might be able to let you know on that. I can't say for sure what the outcome will be.

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cool, so ditch the 370cc injectors and the SAFC and get the 8:1 FMU. Vortech makes a solid FMU, correct?

Also, no need for Z32 maf, but also no need for boost controller? The wastegate has "adjustable boost controlled spring" 5.8PSI to 18PSI. So my stock boost would be set at 5.8PSI, correct? But if I wanted to boost 6-7PSI for a run, I would need a boost controller right?

Also, you mentioned to "make sure your base timing is correct before you go boosting it." What does that mean? How do make sure my base timing is correct?

Sorry if these questions sound so "newb" but I just want to make sure I know what I need to get and what I am getting myself into before I dump a bunch of cash. Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.

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I am too on that low boost wagon right nowI planning to run 7psi on a T3 but I will like to go a little safer on the fuel side370cc injectors on a walbro or z32 tt pump, SAFC, and probably a sideount SR intercooler or a air to water (freebie) intercooler. But my only dilema is the MAF.Do I need to use a z32 MAF to use the safc and the 370cc?Can I hack a s14 (I have a s13) MAF and rewire to use it on the s13?For my psi settings, can I use my stock MAF?

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pr240sx:I believe the stock MAF on the s13's don't max out til at least 7psi, so you should be ok if you are staying low boost.

SoCalSilvia:As for the stalling out on open atmosphere bov, if you do end up getting a safc, you can set decelartion air to compensate for that. Recirculation will probably still be a little better, but you can go either way. Also, you can recirculate any bov, you just have to set it up with the tubing/clamps etc.

You will only need a boost controller if you want to change psi settings on the fly - basically you'd let your wastegate go to the highest psi you want to run and use the controller to bring it down and back up when you feel like - also make sure you get a good boost controller as these tend to go out on some people.

If you are happy with running 5 psi most of the time, then some days want to tune manually and go to 7 psi or whatnot, you don't need a controller.

And just something you may want to know: if you don't do welding, it may take a day or two for a shop to fabricate a downpipe for you. I am currently in the process of dealing w/ a couple different companies in regards to that.

Another tip may be to get a spare oil pan that you can tap and get welded, so when you start taking stuff out later, you can swap faster.

Since we're both in SoCal, we can work on our turbo project together , just a thought

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sweet.... thanks for the info bro. Where in SoCal are you? I'm in Diamond Bar. Are you doing all the install work yourself? I saw your sig said "shift_automatic" this means you are auto? Because so am I, so that would be cool to see another auto KA-T. Do you have an S14 too?

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I'm mostly in the OC area, about 30-40 minutes south of you. I don't like going up to Diamond Bar too much because of the reputation of cops up in that area, but usually go up there to pick up car parts anyway .

The install work so far is planned mostly to be done by myself and maybe a couple friends. I was going to have it done professionally (price was pretty decent too), but the shop wanted my car for a couple weeks, which is for now, unthinkable.

I have an auto 89 240sx coupe. So I guess my car would be ur older brother, haha.

Anyway, just hit me up on email/aim if you ever wanna talk about ur turbo stuff or life in LA, . hyphendesigns AT yahoo DOT com - aim:agentsonic02 - you may want to email me w/ ur aim bcs I currently have "block all not on contact list"

peace out


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