Newbie Member, Newbie Q45 owner - 1st post

Post by **SOCAL91Q45a** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

Hey all .... cool Q45 gathering place here.

Im new here. I just picked up my best friends 1991 Q45a. I feel like Im not a NEW guy to Q's. Ive been jealous of this rig for years, now - in its distressed state, itsmine for what I consider a SONG! He was frustrtated with the car and the replacement motor he put in 24k ago [scrimped ....] has a bad "rod knock" and "no oil pressure". Motor time .....

I picked it up for $1,000 - and it has just been totally repainted from an excellent body shop we both use for our insurance business. He has the Stillen Intake, 1st gear start chip/program and a Stillen Performance Chip as well. Ive always loved this car, and its sound with that Stillen airbox on it !!! Clean Interior, good rubber, excellent paint, AC and Electrical system. My friend bought from dealer with 75k on it and 50 miles after he bought it - he made them Warranty the active suspension - complete replacement. Car now has 175k on it.

Ive got my eye on REPOMAN's thread as to the motor swap etc ... he's doing.

Has anyone gone thru a Q45 motor and done a Crank, bearings, and rods?

I thought I read where it never works? [another site]

Or what is the reason for getting Crate Motors with low miles?

We got the shop and "stuff" - note my sig of the other projects we have going on ... so - we aint SCARED! :-)

All the best to all ... your feedback is appreciated.

I need a Grey Driver's side electric seat - any ideas where i can score one?

Post by **SOCAL91Q45a** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

Uhhh - whats up with the "Driving Mom's Car" jive?

Harshin on the newbie's eh?

Aight sukka's .... posting flurry ... I cant hang with that rookie rating! :-)

L8

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

SOCAL91Q45a wrote:Uhhh - whats up with the "Driving Mom's Car" jive?

Harshin on the newbie's eh?

Aight sukka's .... posting flurry ... I cant hang with that rookie rating! :-)

L8

You catch on quicker than most newbies.:pface

Welcome to our little club!:jazz:

Fred..

Post by **SOCAL91Q45a** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

Cool smileys Fred ... where do I get those "Performace Mods" bro? Hehehe

Grey Leather Seats ... anyone? Please ...... begging ....

even Google gives no love .......

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

BTW I answered part of your engine question in repomans thread were u posed it first.

Fred..

PS: For fun smilies use the regular "reply here" button rather than the "Fred quick reply box" and on left you will see some smilies listed and under that there will be a "get more" link

Post by **SOCAL91Q45a** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

"q45tech (53/M/Atlanta, GA) 11/21/01 9:00 am

We have only rebuilt 4 Q engines completely/totally from the block up, other than swapping new/used heads on a bad block or the converse, changed a few rods/pistons etc. Generally the [matched] parts availability is spotty and time consumming plus the time required makes it uneconomical vs paying $2500 for a take out [upon which you have to do $1500 to make it safe]....no way to get all the parts and spent 48-60 hours it would cost $7,000.....microfinishing the crank [new special bearings] or replacing it is $1500 alone.....then why rebuild if you don't replace the rods, springs, valves, seats, rings, pistons, pins etc then you have to hone the block. Obviously changing 25 engines doesn't make us an expert but pretty close at least on understanding what costs are. "

Alrighty then .... Hopes dashed! :-) Not really ......

I was hoping the cost for a Crank, Rods, Pistons, bearings, machining and Seals kits wasnt going to be in the stratosphere!!!

Anyone seen recent parts costs for this?

The car I bought from a Q45 fanatic had a "take out" with alledged low miles ... ran fine one day after having sat for a long while .... [it wasnt the daily driver] then next morning, I went to follow him over to the dealer to drop off for some minor stuff .... He hears a rod knock and shuts off the car .... we tow it to the Local Mission Viejo Dealer and they confirm Rod knock and NO OIL PRESSURE. So there goes his Low Mileage Take Out motor - he got about 18k miles out of it.

So .. if the parts for the bottom end [short block] are the same as ANOTHER take out and likely JUNKER ...... why not rebuild the bottom end with new internals/guides etc ....

I can only imagine what headwork/parts runs on these things ... cringing ......

PS - Hey Im rollin HUBCAPPERS now ...

Post by **AZhitman** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

Welcome to NICO, SoCal!!

You're on the right track, reading old posts. There's a WEALTH of great info here, and you're gonna do fine with the experts advice here.

Keep an eye out on eBay for used takeouts - You've gotta sift out the chumps to find a champ, but it can be done. I just facilitated a purchase of an engine for Fred's Q, and another of our members was the recipient of a free "donor" Q that has a bad motor...

Glad to have you aboard, let me know if you need anything (administratively) while you're here.

p.s. Need a factory service mnual for your Q?

Post by **SOCAL91Q45a** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

Perhaps .. if this is a sham .... What do you have or have access to - I like BOOKS better.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...98819

and ive got my wary eye on this. Seller responded to questions but not with any REAL answers. I asked for some background info on this take out, and what all was shipping with it .. he said see the add, see the pics .... THE END. So .... i was hoping those with a more trained eye than I might comment on whats in the pic's ... and if perhaps its missing MAJOR shiz I may require? Truly Im only concerned with the bottom end - in my mind, but im here to get edumicated :-)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...58985

Post by **AZhitman** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

CD does NOT include everything that's in the manual.

Better to have the actual book with fold-out wiring diagrams.

For $5-$10 more than that CD, I have an extra 91 manual available.

Post by **SOCAL91Q45a** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

[email protected]

Lets do bidness ..... :-)

Post by **AZhitman** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

You got mail.

Post by **SOCAL91Q45a** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

AZhitman .... I realized after - that I have the "Service Manual" that comes with the car. Is that what you were referring to? Is it different than what the FSM is?

Sorry for all the DAQ's guys .... [DAQ=Dumb A** Questions]

Many thanx

Post by **SOCAL91Q45a** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

Ooops - retraction ... I want that NEW one ya got!

You have mail!

Post by **elwesso** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

The FSM you find in the trunk is just a mini version of the big one.... Same material, just different size........ Not to mention the one in the trunk will be for your model year.....

Post by **SOCAL91Q45a** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm

Ohhh man - Im a happy camper !!!

Just got the service record from the infiniti dealer faxed/emailed over from my good friend / prior owner ... I almost want to cry for him .... He loves these cars almost as much as I do and he's dropped a ton of CASH in it ... fortunately he likes to ride cycles more than spend money on this car.

168,000 current miles

The good news .....

Trans warrantied 1994 - new!!![only 56k on it then though]4 Active Actuators warrantied by dealer at 71kDriveshaft Warrantied same time 71kMany Bushings, Mounts, Hoses, R&R's by dealersTensioners doneNew radiator last month

The bad news ....

Car sat for almost 2 years - in op with bad motorIm not seeing Trans flushes .... other than 2Lots of Brake rotors - about every 60kShe's got a cooked motor now .....

Newbie Member, Newbie Q45 owner - 1st post

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