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craiglew
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Ok so Im in Buffalo NYSorry going to need to read some...Just picked up first Z car yeaterday... in goog shape overall no rust... minor body damage driverside. and pretty much all there... Keep in mind paid 940.00 from salvage yard... car in buffalo no rust rare find. guys at the yard had told me it needs a fuel pump? I figured it didnt run... asking 1200 went week later with cash in hand offered what I paid figured to expect worst: Blown motor, tranni fill in blanks... guys says it runs was driven in so we proceed to start it ... runs like s*** but still runs....

Get the car deleverd to the house... start to check it over.... plugs loose, sounds like an exhaust valve is drooped " horribile tick, pull dip stick oil almost looks like paint thiner... I have a cold cant smell "go figure" check over other simple things such as firing order and timing... seem to be all good. Pull plugs again and are covered in black sut?

dont have a compression tester "was borrowed never brought back" will get new one next couple of days

Found papers in car and with title papers to suggest heavy head work was done and looks new. Newman Sharp cam? head shaved, and alt, starter, batt, and radiator new.

Any educated input is welcomed, and Cant wait to have fun with new project.PS obvious not first project car, I deff dont know everything but I like to think I now whats UP from Down...


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newman sharp cam?

sweet.

I wanna see some good pics of the car.

flush the fluids and run the compression check.

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when checking th eplugs wires, keep in mind that the distributor spins counterclockwise, so the plug wires go on in reverse order

never heard of any "Newman Sharp" parts, Newman didn't sell any parts to my knowledge, Bob Sharp of course did

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Anyone able to give me a fwrd to basic maint info on this motor? ie: sprk gap, oil weight so on-fuel pump make it run rich?- if there are issues with the maf on these motors?..... I just cant get over how rich it is running-I havnt heard anything of a fuel pressure regulator..... does it have one?

newman sharp?... again have now idea... maybe name of shop did a regrind on it dnt knw much on this motor at all or aftermarket parts for it

compression test put all cyl @ about 130??? anyone any idea if thats any good on these motors?
Modified by craiglew at 7:40 PM 3/23/2009

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craiglew wrote:Anyone able to give me a fwrd to basic maint info on this motor? ie: sprk gap, oil weight so on-fuel pump make it run rich?- if there are issues with the maf on these motors?..... I just cant get over how rich it is running-I havnt heard anything of a fuel pressure regulator..... does it have one?

newman sharp?... again have now idea... maybe name of shop did a regrind on it dnt knw much on this motor at all or aftermarket parts for it

compression test put all cyl @ about 130??? anyone any idea if thats any good on these motors?

Modified by craiglew at 7:40 PM 3/23/2009
they don't use a maf, they use a AFM, and you can pop the top off of it and adjust it a bit, but if it's super rich, to the ppint of flooding, it's likely the chts, a bad O2 sensor will cause a mildly rich condition, and a bad cat makes a rich condition seem much worse than it is, if all else is good then try adjusting the maf, I always adjust for the best throttle responce

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evildky wrote:they don't use a maf, they use a AFM, and you can pop the top off of it and adjust it a bit, but if it's super rich, to the ppint of flooding, it's likely the chts, a bad O2 sensor will cause a mildly rich condition, and a bad cat makes a rich condition seem much worse than it is, if all else is good then try adjusting the maf, I always adjust for the best throttle responce
thanks for a response...Update: did o2 sense.... helped able to run in garage without eyes burning out. but still way too rich. I found this and was very helpfull... http://atlanticz.ca/zclub/tech....html

Ive checked all connectors and such with not much diffrence?temp sensor you say huh.... i was leaning to afm but thats why Im asking....!

Thanks again will look arround for one.


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Ive ordered to coolant temp sensor..... or so they say at the parts counter I hope this is the same as the chts?

will be here in the morning

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That's a hell of a car for the money! Congrats on the purchase

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For under a grand that is gorgeous...

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craiglew wrote:Ive ordered to coolant temp sensor..... or so they say at the parts counter I hope this is the same as the chts?

will be here in the morning
yeah, on the n/a it;s int he lower thermostat housing, just be sure ytou don't get the "sender" the "sensor" should have 2 contacts and the plug should look like an injector plug

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evildky wrote:yeah, on the n/a it;s int he lower thermostat housing, just be sure ytou don't get the "sender" the "sensor" should have 2 contacts and the plug should look like an injector plug
Your info confirms my fears, I need the thermotime sensor now" I snapped it very easily, and may need the temp sensor still.

Anyone have a good idea where to get thermotime sense?

Im going to check in a bit but I belive the other 2 sensors are single wire?

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the thermotime sensor is one of the one wire sensors, it just tells the electric injector fan when to come on

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evildky wrote:the thermotime sensor is one of the one wire sensors, it just tells the electric injector fan when to come on
This is what I broke? 2wires and larger than the other 2 sensors

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that is the CHTS of temp sensor or whatever they called it that year, it's called a CHTS on the turbo cars as tey moved it to the cylinder head

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Just looking at the pics you posted you are missing some throttle body parts. There should be a throttle position sensor on top of the throttle body. I can see the mount for it in your pic but it is not there, it mounts with two screws (bolts).Also I think you might have this site already but very helpful when it comes to tech info with good diagrams. http://atlanticz.ca/index.php/tech-tips.htmlBTW fantastic buy on a car that when restored can be worth 10,000.Mine was appraised at 9700.00 u.s.

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ok got the part from motorsport turns out my head is previous years head.... go figure and the sensors are all diffrent... I have broke the therotime sensor sent back the cyl head temp sensor and thermotime sensor is on its way....

As far as the throtle parts I think you will have to show me beter what you discribe..... tps sensor I thought was on side of throtle?

as seen here

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Nice S130.


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