Newbie here.............research questions

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Hey folks, new to the board, but it was recommended by some from my own forum site.

Anyway I've been a honda man through and through from motor swaps, performance rebuilds, and turbo applicaitons etc etc.

Anything Japanese of course as well.

I've taken up some interest in the 240 and the potential of the SR20DET swap.

Although I'm in the process of doing my own research and reading, but I would appreciate some links to some good basic info posts so I can get some back ground (typical newbie post hey ;) ).

Cheers!


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Not going to do all the work for you and give you links, but you can access the following pages via the NICO menu, in the left hand column. Go to the Articles page, check out any application specific topics there, go to the SR forum, the 240technical and general chat sections, or try running a search on your topic of interest. The search button is located at top right of page.

Welcome to nico.. glad to have you aboard.

PHIL:)

Jonny 290
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Don't push aside the KA as an option. The turbo KA community has literally exploded in the last year, and it can be a very rewarding project.

Not that I'm knocking the SR - I eventually want one, don't get me wrong. EXCELLENT motors. But don't think for a minute that the only way you can go is the SR way.

That being said, welcome to nico, hope you have fun here :)

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yes turbo KA's make me excited

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Yeah you came from the honda camp so you know how it is ( I am in the Honda camp now....for now..LOL) everyone wants a B-16 or B18C....good motors but the SOHC motors have ALOT fo potential too. I thought about LS/VTEC but my wife said no swaps. So I have to turbo the SOHC. The KA can be quite formidable. Hell if I could do it over again with my 240sx (when I had one) I would have turboed the KA instead of swapping

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I don't want to jack this post into honda's, but I'm from the honda boosgted sohc vtec camp, there is power to be made from those motors.................sounds like its your only choice ( I have a semi built D16Z6/Y8 on my basement floor right now). B series is the obvious way to go though. The basic swap gives you considerably more power and rev's plus maintains completly the cars stock reliability.

Anyway guys thanks for welcome and the the searching hints.

I've found some stuff along the way that newbies reading my post will find usefull:

http://www.japanmotorimport.com/

http://www.srswap.com/

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wow a honduh owner that accully sounds like he knows somthing, congrats, your one of a kind.. lol.. thank god you didnt come on here saying "yeah im getting an SR and im gonna run 12's then im gonna get a sick JDM body kit"

anyways good luck with your project man, i need to deside what path im going.. one day ill tell myself to turbo my KA, then the next ill tell myself to go with the SR... i just dont know anymore.. then there is always the CA and RB... grrrr... what to do what to do....

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Well like I said I've been around the honda world for some time, while I don't know every thing, I do know what it takes to make them fast and reliable, and fast and not so reliable.

Alot of people talk **** and don't know what they are talking about. Having a reliable 13 second daily driver, especially from a 4 banger is a decent accomplishment.

But for my next project I want facotry Jap boost, there for my options are limited, and I'm not so into mitsues...........too many issues I think, plus RWD is nice, and the 240 is in the sports car class ya know. But on the other side I can make good hp and reliabiilty with going honda again (CTR conversion, or teg type R with jdm front end conversion.......both with boost at some point, both you have to agree are very nice).

As for the SR vs the KA, well I've seen a KA boosted, it was a nice job, made lots of power and got along pretty good, but poor fuel management put an end to that among other issues.

What I've learned from doign honda's is that no corners can be cut or you'll pay the price. Plus one has to decide what purpose the vehical will serve, cause there is a big difference in a daily driver vs a weekend racer, and its hard to get a balance between both.

If its cheap its not reliableIf its fast its probably not cheap..........&If its reliable its probably not fast!

I say start the right way with a factory turbo platform (factory boost ecu), from what I've seen it will save alot of time, money and effort. Props for trying to be different and boosting the KA, but the SR swap is too damn cheap compared to those of the honda camp thats its hard to resist! Now the RB20 and RB25 swaps, well thats a whole nother story......................see my previous statements.

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Hybrid wrote: the SR swap is too damn cheap compared to those of the honda camp thats its hard to resist! Now the RB20 and RB25 swaps, well thats a whole nother story......................see my previous statements.


with the growing popularity of the 240sx in the States, the SR20 is becoming a pretty hot commodity. I really wouldn't say that the swap is cheap, especially when the prices seem to grow everyday. Beyond the headaches of trying to source a reliable engine from overseas (and the cost of shipping/freight), there's also the problem of sourcing parts for an engine that was never available in the US.

blah blah blah. . . not to put a downer on your swap, but it's just a couple of things to keep in mind. I respect the Honda camp, but there's still some major differences between something like a b16 swap and a sr20.

Good luck with everything. Keep us informed on what you decide on!

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not to beat a dead horse, but 5k dumped into a ka-t setup will get you farther than 5k dumped into an sr20 setup. way farther.

sr20 entry fee is no less than 3k after all said and done. ka-t can be done nicely for 2k, and you can get spare blocks for $150 or so. do it right, it'll last.

anyways, good luck in whatever path you choose. :)

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MasterMan wrote:wow a honduh owner that accully sounds like he knows somthing, congrats, your one of a kind.. lol.. thank god you didnt come on here saying "yeah im getting an SR and im gonna run 12's then im gonna get a sick JDM body kit"

anyways good luck with your project man, i need to deside what path im going.. one day ill tell myself to turbo my KA, then the next ill tell myself to go with the SR... i just dont know anymore.. then there is always the CA and RB... grrrr... what to do what to do....


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Jonny 290 wrote:not to beat a dead horse, but 5k dumped into a ka-t setup will get you farther than 5k dumped into an sr20 setup. way farther.

sr20 entry fee is no less than 3k after all said and done. ka-t can be done nicely for 2k, and you can get spare blocks for $150 or so. do it right, it'll last.

anyways, good luck in whatever path you choose. :)
Or you could throw some of that in the bank and save for a RB swap. I here te RB20 is fairly cheap and has more potential than the SR over all. But it all goes back to whatever the hell you want out of your personal driving experience.

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Well if your looking for a 240 Ill have mine up for sale once I bring it back to stock. 93 5 speed. Was gonna go KA-T with a new block but funds fell short so gotta scrap the project. Its nice to see ppl comin back to RWD, youll never wanna drive a FWD again.

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I don't think anyone has touched on this, but the beauty of going with the KA is availability. If you blow up your KA, it's not hard to find a decent low mileage replacement engine...good luck replacing the SR. There's a place within an hour's drive of where I live that I could pick up a KA virtually any time I want.

As for fuel management issues, plenty of guys on here have conquered that problem. I bet a lot of people who had a KA-T fail didn't spend nearly enough time or money on proper fuel management.

As soon as I can get a 2nd car, I'd definitely like to try a KA-T project. BTW, the KA-T (and SR) forums on here have a TON of good info.

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BadMojo wrote:I don't think anyone has touched on this, but the beauty of going with the KA is availability. If you blow up your KA, it's not hard to find a decent low mileage replacement engine...good luck replacing the SR. There's a place within an hour's drive of where I live that I could pick up a KA virtually any time I want.

As for fuel management issues, plenty of guys on here have conquered that problem. I bet a lot of people who had a KA-T fail didn't spend nearly enough time or money on proper fuel management.

As soon as I can get a 2nd car, I'd definitely like to try a KA-T project. BTW, the KA-T (and SR) forums on here have a TON of good info.


This is another good point. Another reason I am boosting my SOHC D series. IF I blow that **** up, I can get anohter block for damn near free. Cant do that with ANY JDM swap. You will still pay 500 or more for a long block, but still it is availability.

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spec-v5150 wrote:This is another good point. Another reason I am boosting my SOHC D series. IF I blow that **** up, I can get anohter block for damn near free. Cant do that with ANY JDM swap. You will still pay 500 or more for a long block, but still it is availability.


Then again most people don't plan on blowing an engine...

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true but it should always be a factor, especially when dealing with boost and used engines. I think about it now. After I get my turbo parts together, the last thing I am buying is a longblock and keeping the stock parts I am taking off (like exhaust manifold, etc) So if/when I DO blow it, I have an engine sitting there in my garage.

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Toad[^_^] wrote:Then again most people don't plan on blowing an engine...
Most people don't plan on having an auto accident either, yet many of us still carry Physical Damage coverage on our cars. I've heard more than a few stories of newly installed SR's that went belly up. I can only imagine how those people must feel considering the investment they made to buy and install that engine.

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the thing about my KA-T is that the powerband is just better hands down, its like riding a v twin bike vs an inline 4, the v twin bike has tq everywhere and you dont have to drive the **** out of it to get to the power


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