Newbie again- shocks?

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anton
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I've put about 800 miles and a set of wheels and tires on my new(to me) Q45 in the first week. The tires are 225-55x16 Firestone Firehawks on Mille Miglia II 16x7.5 wheels.I drove it up to Santa Barbara and back a couple of times over the weekend and it made me appreciate the '98 Camry(V6, 5spd) I traded in on the Q. The Camry had TRD short springs and shocks so it was very stable, if a little harsh. The Q is very fast, quiet and smooth but kinda "floaty"- I think it needs shocks. I see I can get Tokicos from Shox.com for under $300/set. Are these any good?What would be your recommendation?I've always favored Konis- I've even got 'em on my '65 Ranchero but I don't see a listing for the Qcar.I noticed some Eibach 1" shorter springs are available. Do these hurt the ride noticeably? My wife loves the thing as it is and I'd like to avoid alienating her.I'm enclosing a pic. I think it would look nice a little lower. Of course lowering and fat tires makes anything look better.


Q45tech
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Car: 1990 Q45 342,400 miles 22 years ownership with original engine
1995 G20t 5 speed 334,000 miles 16" 2002 wheels - 205/50/16 Sr20ve vvl

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Tokico makes the oem shocks [black units] the Blue HP series are a little stiffer to accomodiate wear of bushings etc. They pair well with the Eibach springs as both are 10-15% stiffer.

You didn't mention if it is a standard car vs t or active. The standard car has no rear sway bar vs the 97 and above which has a 21mm rear bar [won't fit as the tract is different]. [or the t car with a 15.9mm]

The closest fix is the active models 20 mm rear bar [$250] coupled with the stiffer rear springs and shocks it is pretty close to ideal---- reducing the rear roll by 30% after the first inch or two.

Generally the rear appears to soften first try changing them to Blues first as the Blues on the front when brand new are pretty noticable till 5,000 miles of use.

911/Q45
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Car: 1990 Infiniti Q45
1996 Porsche Turbo

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If you use the lowering springs your camber will be way out of spec resulting in bad tire wear on the front. The stock suspension doesn't adjust for caster or camber, but Stillen makes adjustable upper control arms and tension rods that remedy this and they are easy to install when you are doing the springs and shocks. They are a bit pricey, but correct what I consider to be a major flaw in the Q's engineering. My wife got a little grumpy about the ride when I changed the suspension, but it softened a bit with time and she has gotten used to it. Really a stunning improvement in handling when combined with the HICAS rear sway bar that bolts right on.

greg_atlanta
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Car: 2008 G35 Journey Sedan, silver/black (no sunroof), 1992 Q45 (in a past life)

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I'd strongly recommend the Tokico blue shocks in back, at least. That's where your floaty feeling is coming from.

I'd replace the rear shocks only and then see how you like it. I replaced mine with Tokico blue and the handling difference was amazing (no sway bar, either).

Tokico blue is a little stiff for some people on front. Car doesn't have to ride like a rock to handle well.

reggiegsd
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Car: '94 Q, '73 240Z

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The Tokiko Blues are still on backorder. It looks like sometime in August before they will be available. Thats for the '94-96 cars. I found the rears at one of the smaller parts houses that just happen to have some on the shelf. Fronts are gone - gone - gone! I found one set of fronts for the '90-93 Q but they were gone before I could get to them.

anton
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Car: Historic racing cars(I was Chief Tech for VARA in late '70s-early '80s), early hot rods, F1, and goo

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Shox.com here in SoCal says they have them in stock and I've got a set of rears on the way.Thanks for all the info, guys-I think I'll see how these feel then maybe a rear bar.Thanks,Anton the newbie


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