New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer resigns.

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The guy obviously has some sever moral deliquencies. The only people I feel bad for are his three daughters and wife, his poor daughters will now have to live with that shame thru school etc, it's gonna be a real mess for them.

On a sidenote, historical event with the first African-American governor of NY, and he's legally blind too. Just an interesting fact.


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DJButton wrote:On a sidenote, historical event with the first African-American governor of NY, and he's legally blind too. Just an interesting fact.
This guy???


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Sil40_Mayhem wrote:This guy???
Well played!

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I predict she'll end up on the Howard Stern Show.
I'm sure she will. Howard had a guest on earlier this weekcan't remember his name but he was busted for running an escort service and served two years in jail.





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confedup wrote: I personally believe in moral values and what he did is not what I would consider moral here in the US.

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What does a photoshopped billboard have to do with proving anything

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Rick Damone Jr wrote:lmfao, typical democrap.
at least he got some... unlike some people

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NismoDriver240 wrote:
at least he got some... unlike some people
I can get hotter than what he got without paying for it

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Damn you give new meaning to the word hot hands!

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Rick Damone Jr wrote:
I can get hotter than what he got without paying for it
yea guys do usually give it for free, or so i've heard

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I hope she has been paying her taxes cuz the IRS is gonna nail her


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audtatious wrote:I hope she has been paying her taxes cuz the IRS is gonna nail her
That's fair enough; anyone with enough money already has.

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I believe legally, his main crime is only a misdemeanor. When confronted with the allegation, he didn't lie about it, as other politicians have done. So I'm not sure his offense was impeachable. He is clearly guilty of hypocricy in the first degree as he was a relentless pursuer as DA and one of his targets was prostitution. His reputation is pretty much...blown.

The big quesiton I have is what on earth did she do for him that was worth $4000+.
The $4k was for not getting a street whore and getting a clean G spot

Lets not leave out New Jersey

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/...oll=1

It appears there is a lot more hanky panky going on in society then most people realize. Nevada is way ahead of the rest of the nation as are most european countries such as Amsterdam. Other countries in Europe allow legal prostitution. The p0rn and sex trade is a huge multi billion industry in the US and government should only regulate, tax, insure proper health precautions, and prevent unlawful slavery of woman. Outright illegality will never work just like prohibition never worked. Prostitution, like abortion is a personal decision and others whose moral values conflict should not be telling others how to live their lives. Mitt Romney found that out rather quickly. There have been too many instances of the so called moral morality police in this country engaging in unmoral or homosexual conduct with minor children etc. Who the hell are they to tell others how to live their lives? Larry Craig just my $.02

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I agree, there should be legal recognization of the second oldest profession. Parts of Nevada have a well regulated industry filled with "professional women." (I only know this from the series "cat house" on HBO.) It would be far better to regulate it than try to prevent it.

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The problem is that regulation won't stop unlawful behavior, it just makes it easier for young girls to make a quick buck and potentially wreck their lives. It also makes it easier for those exploiting such girls to have a barrier over their heads and a cover story.

Amsterdam is also having their fair share of issues with the open sex laws and other crime brought in by it, so I'm not so sure they should be put on peoples shoulders and marched about as an example.


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but now who are you to say they shouldn't. well backed up statements, but it's all about morals as telcoman said. if your not for it dont pay for a lay and dont whore yourself. if young girls F up, its not your problem.

as for amsterdam, again, we dont live there. its used as an example because what is being said is actually happening there.

im not, persay, FOR prostitution, but im definitely not against it. just like abortion, political views, sexuality, religion, hell... cars. to each his own. if you dont like it, dont do it.


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Following your thought process, then if I don't like it I should simply ignore it or stay away from it. What about pedo's? Their targets are usually OK with their actions so should that be OK too? At what point do we lay down a line? Consensual is OK regardless of age?

Have you ever dealt with a young woman who has done this or seen the consequences? I know I have as has my wife who has worked mental health. Maybe it is OK because a large number of them are mentally screwed up to the point they are socially disabled?

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well it should be like getting a driver's license. not like take a test or anything but a sensible age, maybe hold a vote to decide what age lol. to show that they're legal they could sport a license. pedophiles are totally different because they target kids that cant say no where in this case the teen would choose who to go with. you cant rape the willing(prostitution), but you can rape the oblivious(pedo).

no i've never seen the result or talked to people but like i said, it's up to them. thats like saying have you ever seen the results or talked to a race car driver who suffered form a near death accident. he subdued himself into the risky world of f1 or nascar or w/e, just as the teen subdued herself into prostitution.

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I assume you are for legalizing drugs too? It's an honest question.

One of these days you will have your own kids and will probably have a different take on this very subject. As a father with two grown girls I have a completely different take on the matter that you have not had a chance to experience yet. Then again, who knows, you may be proud if your daugher was a prostitute

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In all fairness, uh, professional women are more than just a quickie. They are well educated and conversant on many level. That's a far cry from a 16 yr old on the street working for drug money. Nevada has it well organized and regulated. If it must be, make it safe for everyone.

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While I agree in some aspects of that, it has not lowered the amount of illegal street prostitution. What happens to the girls who can't "get into" a brothel to work? What happens if the male can't afford the price of the girl at the brothel (estimated around $300 on average)? What if the guy is not close enough to get to the nearest brothel?

The Nevada law has done nothing but given a few girls a place to work legally. There are only appx 30 legal brothels in Nevada employing about 300 female prostitutes. Numerous counties do not allow them, thus it is not a "fix" for illegal prostitution.

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audtatious wrote:I assume you are for legalizing drugs too? It's an honest question.

One of these days you will have your own kids and will probably have a different take on this very subject. As a father with two grown girls I have a completely different take on the matter that you have not had a chance to experience yet. Then again, who knows, you may be proud if your daugher was a prostitute
no, i'm not, drugs can lead to death, whether directly like OD or indirectly like an imparted crash or murder. i wouldnt be proud if my theoretical daughter was a prostitute, nice stab though, i thought we were having a discussion but ok... anyways everyone has their own side, thats why theres an entire board voting or w/e on it or they would, rather than 2 ppl, like us.
audtatious wrote:While I agree in some aspects of that, it has not lowered the amount of illegal street prostitution. What happens to the girls who can't "get into" a brothel to work? What happens if the male can't afford the price of the girl at the brothel (estimated around $300 on average)? What if the guy is not close enough to get to the nearest brothel?

The Nevada law has done nothing but given a few girls a place to work legally. There are only appx 30 legal brothels in Nevada employing about 300 female prostitutes. Numerous counties do not allow them, thus it is not a "fix" for illegal prostitution.
You make it seem like all males are blood thirsty for sex lol. it starts out slow, a couple counties try it to see if anything cuts down, then others try and it spreads, opening more legal places, causing the "fix" you're looking for (fix for legal prostitution or... the other fix ) and if someone can't afford a brothel girl then what could they afford. i mean idk the going rate on the street but its like now, if someone cant afford something they steal, and the only way to stop that is to keep a sharp eye out.

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danielekfuj wrote:my contribution


is ur custom title from Doug???

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NismoDriver240 wrote:no, i'm not, drugs can lead to death, whether directly like OD or indirectly like an imparted crash or murder. i wouldnt be proud if my theoretical daughter was a prostitute, nice stab though, i thought we were having a discussion but ok... anyways everyone has their own side, thats why theres an entire board voting or w/e on it or they would, rather than 2 ppl, like us.
This is a discussion. For the most part, people your age are all for removing laws on the books for more freedoms, thus why I was questioning drug legalization to determine who I am conversing with.

I am all for allowing people to do what they want as long as what they are doing is not destructive to the community or others individuals rights. I see legalizing prostitution as simply another step in the wrong direction and I see it harmful to the community as a whole. I do not see prostitution as a victimless crime nor do I believe that legalization will do anything but put more money in Govt cauffers at the expense of women spreading their legs. Do you really believe that treating women as a commodity is the right thing to do?
NismoDriver240 wrote:You make it seem like all males are blood thirsty for sex lol. it starts out slow, a couple counties try it to see if anything cuts down, then others try and it spreads, opening more legal places, causing the "fix" you're looking for (fix for legal prostitution or... the other fix ) and if someone can't afford a brothel girl then what could they afford. i mean idk the going rate on the street but its like now, if someone cant afford something they steal, and the only way to stop that is to keep a sharp eye out.
Men are horn-dogs and there are many problems that other countries are facing due to legalizing prostitution. I have yet found a single country that has legalized prostitution without having major issues because of the decision. Do they care? Not as long as they can tax it.

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audtatious wrote:
This is a discussion. For the most part, people your age are all for removing laws on the books for more freedoms, thus why I was questioning drug legalization to determine who I am conversing with.

I am all for allowing people to do what they want as long as what they are doing is not destructive to the community or others individuals rights. I see legalizing prostitution as simply another step in the wrong direction and I see it harmful to the community as a whole. I do not see prostitution as a victimless crime nor do I believe that legalization will do anything but put more money in Govt cauffers at the expense of women spreading their legs. Do you really believe that treating women as a commodity is the right thing to do?
I see what you're getting at no doubt, and no, I'm not one of those teens, "Yeah, legalize everything blah blah bullsh1t" but some things, like this, i dont really care either way... but your last question.... you bring morals into this, when from the start my view has been to each their own. if they want to, if they do it to themselves, then fine by me. i would never sell my body... well, not on a street... maybe craigslist ... j/k. but if someone voluntarily subjects themself into that lifestyle, then ok. its like suicide, you can tell them all the bad, tell them to stop but its their desire. ok bad analogy but i hope you kinda see what i meant in that comparison.
audtatious wrote:Men are horn-dogs and there are many problems that other countries are facing due to legalizing prostitution. I have yet found a single country that has legalized prostitution without having major issues because of the decision. Do they care? Not as long as they can tax it.
well problems in countries arise from wayy more things than just prostitution alone, come on. but one thing does lead to another. its different here though, that goes with drugs... amsterdam, as you said befor. legal prostitution, drugs, its crazy, but in the US drugs are happening but not like as bad as over there and so is prostitution but at least we're trying to legally control it

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Exactly, how often the ones that protest the most have the most to hide.He clearly knew it was illegal, yet he felt that somehow he was above it.

He was married and my heart goes out to his wife, and his 3 teenage daughters. His wife stoeckley stood by him at the podium where he had to admit his errors. She is the victim, not society. She is paying the price.

The problem is that the list of politicians who have done a little nocturnal hunting is getting longer and longer. I'm a little willing to forgive this activity as long as doesn't involve the public paying for it.
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Governor Paterson, Wife Admit to Past Affairs

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) -- Gov. David Paterson revealed Tuesday that he had affairs with several women, including a state employee, since about 1999. The admission came one day after Paterson replaced Gov. Eliot Spitzer, who resigned amid a sex scandal involving high-priced prostitutes.

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"Several years ago, there were a number of women," Gov. Paterson said.

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He said he broke no laws, criminal or campaign finance, and never advanced the career of the one state employee with whom he had an affair. None of the women have business before the state and no public or campaign money was spent on the affairs, he said. He said is not involved in an affair now.

On Monday, his first day in office, Paterson told The Daily News he had an affair during a rough patch in his marriage between 1999 until 2001. Paterson said he provided the information to the newspaper in an attempt to end rumors about the affair.

At a press conference Tuesday, he and his wife spoke publicly about the infidelity in their marriage.

Paterson said he didn't reveal the affairs as a senator, Senate minority leader or lieutenant governor because no one had asked him and he came forward because he didn't want the rumors to cloud his governorship.

VIDEO: N.Y. Governor, Wife Admit to Affairs

Paterson rose from the lieutenant governor's office after Eliot Spitzer resigned last week amid allegations that he hired a call girl from a high-priced escort service.

Paterson and his wife, Michelle Paige Paterson, stood before reporters and answered numerous questions about the new governor's affairs.

The Patersons say both had affairs during a time when their marriage was headed toward divorce. But they admitted the affairs, sought counseling and have built a stronger marriage and family, both Patersons said.

"I do not feel I have broken my commitment to the citizens of New York state," said Paterson, who is legally blind and New York's first black governor.

But Paterson said it was time to make the infidelities public so the information couldn't be used to try to compromise him as governor.

"I didn't want to be blackmailed," he said.

His wife stood by the governor's side and answered questions directed to her.

"We dealt with it as a family," she said. "A marriage has peaks and valleys ... no marriage is perfect."

"I think we have a marriage like many Americans, maybe even like many of you," the governor told reporters. "Elected officials are really just reflections of the people we represent."

Paterson's rise followed a dramatic plunge for Spitzer, who was elected with an overwhelming share of the vote and who had vowed to root out corruption at the state Capitol.

Federal prosecutors must still decide whether to pursue charges against Spitzer. The married father of three teenage girls was accused of spending tens of thousands of dollars on prostitutes, including one in Washington the night before Valentine's Day.

Assembly Democratic Speaker Sheldon Silver, a Democrat, said Tuesday he doesn't believe Paterson was weakened by the disclosure that he and his wife had affairs, he doesn't think it affects the ability to get things done in Albany and the story should be over.

"This Albany press corps was in a feeding frenzy, looking for anything they could do to find it," Silver said. "And basically what David Paterson did was say, 'Stop bothering people. Here's the story. And that's it.'"

Republican Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno said Paterson's personal life is Paterson's business only as long as it doesn't interfere with how he governs. He said he expects Paterson to continue to handle himself properly, and the important thing now is to finish a budget.

Paterson's admission hopefully will shut up all the right wing talk radio @ssholes like Bill Orally and others on the Fox noise channel that only seem to worry about other people's morals and keep whining about Bill and Hillary. They should just shut the @u c k up and start worrying about the War, economy, education of our youth, healthcare, etc instead of who is doing what to whom in the bedroomOkay, I'm done I feel better now.

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I see what you're getting at no doubt, and no, I'm not one of those teens, "Yeah, legalize everything blah blah bullsh1t" but some things, like this, i dont really care either way... but your last question.... you bring morals into this, when from the start my view has been to each their own. if they want to, if they do it to themselves, then fine by me. i would never sell my body... well, not on a street... maybe craigslist ... j/k. but if someone voluntarily subjects themself into that lifestyle, then ok. its like suicide, you can tell them all the bad, tell them to stop but its their desire. ok bad analogy but i hope you kinda see what i meant in that comparison.
As others force what is not commonplace into being "legal" then it will become commonplace and the next generations will take it as normal. Prior to it being normal the next non-common lifestyle will be pressed to be legal and the cycle continues. Some call this a "slippery slope" but we can already see it in p0rn, internet/tv nudity, vulgarity and the fact that kids as early as 8 are having sex now.


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telcoman wrote:Paterson's admission hopefully will shut up all the right wing talk radio @ssholes like Bill Orally and others on the Fox noise channel that only seem to worry about other people's morals and keep whining about Bill and Hillary. They should just shut the @u c k up and start worrying about the War, economy, education of our youth, healthcare, etc instead of who is doing what to whom in the bedroomOkay, I'm done I feel better now.

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It's not like the "other" media outlets really give a damn about anything but ratings and spinning a large amount of information the way they want it. Why don't you complain about them? Oh yeah, because they probably support more of your views?



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