New Winter Tires

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williamk10
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Apparently, Vancouver is going to have a pretty harsh winter this year so i went out and got some winter tires.

Triangle Snow Lion TR777

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Before you ask, yes these are made in China. They have the same compound and tread pattern as the Michelin X-Ice (on the right).

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Tires were $85 each including mounting and balancing, not bad compared to name brand tires that costs considerably more. Was it worth it cheaping out on winter tires? Won't know until we get some snow but according to reviews i've read, this tire is not at all bad. Just because its made in China doesn't mean its unsafe. It still has to pass the same safety standards as any tire that is imported into Canada.

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Quebec passed a law this year mandating the use of winter (snow) tires on all wheels. We have been advocates of the use of winter tires, and have had sets mounted on rims for years.

The dilemma was having a new car (Celine's CSX) when the law was passed, which meant jockeying for whatever tires we could get at a decent price given the sudden demand.



After shopping around (early, while there was a decent choice) and getting quotes for the usual Michelin X-Ice, Toyo Observe, Bridgestone Blizzaks and Goodyear Ultragrip hovering around $900, including steel wheels, mounting and balancing, we went shopping "off-market" for the secondary brands.

These included Kelly Snowtrakkers (I have the Wal Mart house version of these on my Mazda6 and are quite happy with them) and store brands from Canadian Tire, but both of these were still hovering around $100 per tire at the size we needed (205/55 x 16).

On a hunch I went to the local tuner shop (Docteur du Pare Brise) and the owner recommended Triangle Snow Lion at $80 per tire. The design appeared to offer the right combination of quietness and ride comfort, with asymmetrical tread blocks of varying size and a lot of heavily siped surface area. This design also promised good performance on ice. We were a bit reluctant to go with an unknown (to us) tire that was made in China, but a quick search on Google turned up generally positive experiences.

At first the tires seemed a little squirmy, but this was due to underinflation. Dry road performance was nearly identical to the stock Goodyear RSA four seasons, but were surprisingly quieter and a bit softer riding, almost Michelin-like. Wet performance was equally impressive.

Our first winter storm came with freezing rain, which gave us an opportunity to test performance on ice. Traction on the Acura was a bit weak, but braking and control were superb. Following this we just received a foot of snow, which gave us a chance to test performance on different conditions including loose powder and hard packed under cold (0 degrees F, or -18 C).

Quite simply, these tires perform better in the cold and on snow than any winter tire we have owned, and would not hesitate in buying them again. They provide excellent traction and control on snow, where othere cars on our street have been spinning tires to get out of snowbanks, the Acura managed to get out of our driveway with no fuss or hesitation.

Of course this is the first winter, and it remains to see how long they will last and how they will perform in a couple of years with some wear on them.


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Do you use these all around or just on the front?

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williamk10
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all around, never on just the fronts unless you want your back to swing around because the front has more braking traction than the rear.

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williamk10 wrote:all around, never on just the fronts unless you want your back to swing around because the front has more braking traction than the rear.


I am sticking to my high performance all seasons. I grew up in Ontario, B.C winters make me laugh :)

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I put mine on the Versa today. Third season using the following set:

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Have you had winters before on your Versa? Or is this the first season you have bought winter tires? Let us know how they handle.

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First time. I'll try to get them on this week. They key for my summer wheels has worn out and I can't get out the lug nuts...ordered a new key. When that gets in, i'll swap em over

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Ok let us know how they handle when you guys get some snow fall!

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I hope they're better than the "real" Michelin X-Ice... They were garbage on my Versa here in Seattle last season. I tossed them after putting 2Kmi on them after feeling completely unsafe with them on.

Cheers,
Eemrek (Kermee)

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blizzaks are my choice for a winter tire....handle amazingly in the snow. I felt like I was driving a 4x4

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NODES wrote:blizzaks are my choice for a winter tire....handle amazingly in the snow. I felt like I was driving a 4x4
Yeah. If we have a hairy Winter, I'm going with Blizzaks this time around.

Cheers,
Eemrek

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Eemrek wrote:
NODES wrote:blizzaks are my choice for a winter tire....handle amazingly in the snow. I felt like I was driving a 4x4
Yeah. If we have a hairy Winter, I'm going with Blizzaks this time around.

Cheers,
Eemrek

Apparently we are, I will believe it when I see it

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I got the tires on the car this weekend. They drive nice, quiet and comfortabe like the stock Continentals. I'll see how they are once we get some snow. I am hoping at least three seasons with these tires.

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Getting tires next week, thinking about the Falken Eurowinter tire. Has anyone used these particular tires? I can get a pretty good price on them, but just want to check and see if anyone has any personal experience with them. I searched on google but didn't find a whole lot of useful (non-biased/advertising) info.

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iluvmyVersa08 wrote:I put mine on the Versa today. Third season using the following set:

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Have you had winters before on your Versa? Or is this the first season you have bought winter tires? Let us know how they handle.
luvmyversa, what model tire is that? Thanks...

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ADOversa wrote:Getting tires next week, thinking about the Falken Eurowinter tire. Has anyone used these particular tires? I can get a pretty good price on them, but just want to check and see if anyone has any personal experience with them. I searched on google but didn't find a whole lot of useful (non-biased/advertising) info.
nov 12th installed Falken Espia epz snows.
No snow here yet though!
Have minimal noise increase, except on 12deg days [Monday and another day last week].
After 3 fillups, my mpgs stayed the same.
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I recommend them so far, but need snow!
08v

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Snow came down hard today. Tires were great. Tired some hard braking and the car stopped straight and true. Lots of traction going forward and back but the car still experienced understeer going into corners. After all, it is still snow...if only the Versa was AWD lol

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williamk10 wrote:Snow came down hard today. still experienced understeer going into corners.lol
Cure for understeer: Porsche 911:D
Or take the snows off the back! :eek: jk

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williamk10 wrote:Snow came down hard today. Tires were great. Tired some hard braking and the car stopped straight and true. Lots of traction going forward and back but the car still experienced understeer going into corners. After all, it is still snow...if only the Versa was AWD lol
Great to hear!

We got nailed in Seattle too and I drove all over the compact ice & snow with these on:

Yokohama AVID ENVigor (H&V)

For anything short of a real snow/ice tire, they performed extremely well.

Cheers,
Eemrek

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08versailles wrote:
ADOversa wrote:Getting tires next week, thinking about the Falken Eurowinter tire. Has anyone used these particular tires? I can get a pretty good price on them, but just want to check and see if anyone has any personal experience with them. I searched on google but didn't find a whole lot of useful (non-biased/advertising) info.
nov 12th installed Falken Espia epz snows.
No snow here yet though!
Have minimal noise increase, except on 12deg days [Monday and another day last week].
After 3 fillups, my mpgs stayed the same.
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I recommend them so far, but need snow!
08v
I got my eurowinters on thursday at Kal Tire in Stoney Creek. Great price and service, definitely recommend them to anyone and everyone!

Initial impressions: Just as quiet and smooth, excellent traction in the cold/wet, and drove through a couple squalls today on my way home from London, felt like it was on rails!


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