New used buyer, ex35 advice.

Discussion of Infiniti's amazing (and underrated) sport-luxury crossovers, the EX35 and EX37. For 2014, the EX series will be renamed QX50, in line with Ininfiit's new naming conventions.
pardy86
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Hi everyone,

So I got my heart set on a 2010 ex35. Its black, comes with all the bells and whistles which is what I wanted but the price is not where I want it to be at $24,958 (this is canadian dollars). I was wondering what a fair price would be to get it to?

I almost bought one last night but they wouldnt come down to $20,800 from 22,950 so I walked. This was also an 09 which warranties have also run out on.

Any advice would be appreciated!

~Pardy


pardy86
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Sorry, I should have also mentioned that the 2010 Im looking at has 73,200km on it.

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kingfrog
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pardy86 wrote:Hi everyone,

So I got my heart set on a 2010 ex35. Its black, comes with all the bells and whistles which is what I wanted but the price is not where I want it to be at $24,958 (this is canadian dollars). I was wondering what a fair price would be to get it to?

I almost bought one last night but they wouldnt come down to $20,800 from 22,950 so I walked. This was also an 09 which warranties have also run out on.

Any advice would be appreciated!

~Pardy
They will hold to prices they can sell at. I paid $23,800 (plus $300 sales tax) He was asking $25,000 for a used Journey with all options and accessories except for tech package with 27895 miles, Find a PRIVATE seller. I paid about $1500 more then he was offered on trade. Still had 12 months of warranty, I would never buy one of these cars from a dealer. They are asking $27,000 for those with my miles and options, Which means they "might" sell for $25,900 Plus fees. I put my car up for sale for $26900 for fun ( put new Michelin Primacys and tinted wndows, and got offers for $25,000. The rarity of these cars seems to be in favor of holding prices up.

I would never pay $20,000 for any "luxury" car with 70K miles out of warranty, I would rather buy a two year old Toyota. In fact i would not buy a high mileage Lexus, Infinti, MB BMW at all. Best buy one still in warranty where you can buy a VSC. A 3/36 Infiniti Elite no deductible Vehicle Service contract would cost me $640. I won't keep the car more than 3 years so I will likely buy it,

pardy86
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kingfrog wrote:
pardy86 wrote:Hi everyone,

So I got my heart set on a 2010 ex35. Its black, comes with all the bells and whistles which is what I wanted but the price is not where I want it to be at $24,958 (this is canadian dollars). I was wondering what a fair price would be to get it to?

I almost bought one last night but they wouldnt come down to $20,800 from 22,950 so I walked. This was also an 09 which warranties have also run out on.

Any advice would be appreciated!

~Pardy
They will hold to prices they can sell at. I paid $23,800 (plus $300 sales tax) He was asking $25,000 for a used Journey with all options and accessories except for tech package with 27895 miles, Find a PRIVATE seller. I paid about $1500 more then he was offered on trade. Still had 12 months of warranty, I would never buy one of these cars from a dealer. They are asking $27,000 for those with my miles and options, Which means they "might" sell for $25,900 Plus fees. I put my car up for sale for $26900 for fun ( put new Michelin Primacys and tinted wndows, and got offers for $25,000. The rarity of these cars seems to be in favor of holding prices up.

I would never pay $20,000 for any "luxury" car with 70K miles out of warranty, I would rather buy a two year old Toyota. In fact i would not buy a high mileage Lexus, Infinti, MB BMW at all. Best buy one still in warranty where you can buy a VSC. A 3/36 Infiniti Elite no deductible Vehicle Service contract would cost me $640. I won't keep the car more than 3 years so I will likely buy it,
Hard to find that here in Toronto, I saw yours and its VERY nice. I found another blk/tan 09 EX35. They are asking $23,598 but if I can get him to $22,000 tops tomorrow I will buy it.

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AWGD8
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Good luck Pardy86!

pardy86
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AWGD8 wrote:Good luck Pardy86!
Thanks buddy, hoping to join the club soon!

fanboy
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your best bet is looking for it outside GTA. All cars are overpriced in GTA. Look for small towns or the states.

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JohnD
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Ancaster Toyota in Hamilton has a used 2010 with 80K kilometres ( 50K miles) for $22,000:

http://www.canadianblackbook.com/car-de ... /p/1/r/10/

pardy86
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Thanks, found another with 73k. Going to try and get it for 21,800 tonight.

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JohnD
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Good luck. Make sure you compare trim levels of the cars. Which options were chosen made a big difference in the new car price. Things like the surround-view camera and adaptive HID headlights, which came with one of the upgrade packages, are nice to have.

pardy86
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The one I found now is:


09 EX35 Grey w/ blk interior @ 23,988 - Aiming for 21,800
73,000km
-Premium, all bells and whistles except navi
-AWD

The windows are not tinted and I want them tinted and she said they might be able to figure something out for that and I wanted the touch screen in it and she also said they might be able to figure something out.

Im aiming to get it at 21,800 which I think is fair. They just sold the one I wanted that was blk/tan WITH navi etc etc @ 23,988 or less so.

pardy86
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So the grey was SUPER nice and I was thinking about buying it but this is my first luxury suv purchase and I want everything. The brought the price down to $21,988 and threw in free tinted windows bu the touch screen/nav was an extra $2000. I can wait and hopefully something comes in.


pardy86
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The Grey one from Leons fine cars I am interested in but Im afraid of buying from a none dealership. I LOVE the grey colour on it. Its the one Im looking for now. All others I have no interest.

Note: For people lookign for an infiniti, They offered the car to me for 21,800 but its purple and tonight they called me offering me a better price but I said I wasnt interested because its purple.

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JohnD
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Is "purple" the dealer's description or have you actually seen the car? I am pretty sure that Infiniti never made a purple EX35. The colour is probably actually "dark currant metallic" which is a metallic paint which changes colour in the sun and I thought was very sharp.

More a red wine colour than a purple:

http://sitespecific.dealerskins.com/Ben ... 609302.jpg

If you have not already seen the car, it might be worth having a look at it, particularly on a sunny day and make up your own mind.

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JohnD wrote:Is "purple" the dealer's description or have you actually seen the car? I am pretty sure that Infiniti never made a purple EX35. The colour is probably actually "dark currant metallic" which is a metallic paint which changes colour in the sun and I thought was very sharp.

More a red wine colour than a purple:

http://sitespecific.dealerskins.com/Ben ... 609302.jpg

If you have not already seen the car, it might be worth having a look at it, particularly on a sunny day and make up your own mind.
This one is purple, I have seen it in person.
http://azr.cdnmedia.autotrader.ca/5/pho ... =800&h=600

I just went to newmarket Nissan/Infiniti cause they had one I liked but would only take $500 off it so I passed so the search continues.

pardy86
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Im thinking about getting one without the touchscreen/nav and just getting an aftermarket one put in, does anyone know if thats ok or is it a bad idea?

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kingfrog
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BAd Idea......In a Luxury car you should have the car stock. Easier to sell, Besides the NAV package is not all that much more. But that is just me. I would not buy any luxury car with after market electronics in the dash, Maybe a Toyota or Chevy,

pardy86
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kingfrog wrote:BAd Idea......In a Luxury car you should have the car stock. Easier to sell, Besides the NAV package is not all that much more. But that is just me. I would not buy any luxury car with after market electronics in the dash, Maybe a Toyota or Chevy,
Noted. They told me they might have one coming in with nov off a trade and if thats the case I wont need it. Its 2k more to have it put in by the dealership but if I did that it puts me over my limit.

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Stick to models with factory navigation. Worse case scenario you'll need to come up with the extra monies to afford the EX and/or determine if the EX is simply out of your budget right now. You may also want to consider buying the car in the new year to see if the depreciation value more closely matches your budget.

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XIS
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I don't have navigation and I don't miss it at all. (my previous car had it) I find my phone navigation (HTC One) is easier and better / more updated and has more options..
What I did miss was the cameras.... so I installed my own camera and it displays on the stock screen. Not as good as the all around view, but still gets me what I need. ... just my 2 pennies.

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JohnD
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I agree. The NAV is nice, but you can get a Garmin unit to sit on the dash for a couple of hundred bucks and it will at least be up to date. Built-in Nav is really not worth the money.

You can get the surround view cameras without getting the NAV and they are definitely worth it.

pardy86
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Ok, listening to that sounds solid then. I think I may purchase the one I was looking at last weekend.

Thanks team.

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JohnD
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Good luck! Post pictures when you get it!

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kingfrog
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I agree you don't need NAV. MY point was not to buy a car with aftermarket nav built in. Use a Garmin and go with a STOCK car.

The value will hold better

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kingfrog wrote:I agree you don't need NAV. MY point was not to buy a car with aftermarket nav built in. Use a Garmin and go with a STOCK car.

The value will hold better
Would you kindly post data showing that an EX without factory navigation holds value better. The truth of the matter is the reason why buyers do not purchase a vehicle equipped with a factory navigation package is due to the buyer not being able to "afford" the added cost of the factory navigation package. However, if you're a driver that will never drive beyond your own town/city....then paying the extra money for the navigation package would certainly be a waste of money. Additionally, buyers that aren't overly impressed by tech gadgets will also tend to forego buying a vehicle with a navigation package as well because they will not get a good return on the extra money that's being spent.

Quite frankly, it's simply mind boggling to purchase a luxury brand vehicle these days that doesn't include factory navigation. There's simply something very tacky about having a Garmin navigation affixed to the windshield of an Infiniti, Lexus, Acura, BMW, etc. :facepalm:

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seldomseen wrote:
kingfrog wrote:I agree you don't need NAV. MY point was not to buy a car with aftermarket nav built in. Use a Garmin and go with a STOCK car.

The value will hold better
Would you kindly post data showing that an EX without factory navigation holds value better. The truth of the matter is the reason why buyers do not purchase a vehicle equipped with a factory navigation package is due to the buyer not being able to "afford" the added cost of the factory navigation package. However, if you're a driver that will never drive beyond your own town/city....then paying the extra money for the navigation package would certainly be a waste of money. Additionally, buyers that aren't overly impressed by tech gadgets will also tend to forego buying a vehicle with a navigation package as well because they will not get a good return on the extra money that's being spent.

Quite frankly, it's simply mind boggling to purchase a luxury brand vehicle these days that doesn't include factory navigation. There's simply something very tacky about having a Garmin navigation affixed to the windshield of an Infiniti, Lexus, Acura, BMW, etc. :facepalm:
While I concur that it strains logic to spend 10 times as much for built in navi versus a Garmin that has free traffic and speed limits on even back roads, when I drive a loaner without Navi it feels like a much greater downgrade than it should. It just seems like navi should be a standard amenity in a luxury car, and maybe it has to do with the prominent placment atop the center stack, but it feels like it is the car's window on the world, and an add on just doesn't have the same ambiance.


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