New to-be Sentra Owner.

[CB7tuner]

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum and since I'm really not getting much feedback from Nissanforum, I figured I'd post here.

I'm a Honda guy, but always seemed to have a thing for the older model Sentra's mainly the B12. I just recenlty found a 1989 Nissan Sentra for sale, it is a manual trany, 126,000 miles and has just had a small tune up (oil change,oil filter, air filter, and spark plugs have been changed 2 weeks ago). The guy's asking $650 but his been having it for sale, for a while now so I figure he would be willing to drop to $500 for it.

The issue's he stated are-Has small amount of rust on the corner of the driver's doorAnd the title of the car isn't under his name, since his neighbor gave it to him

He said his taking care of the title issue and have it all resolved by Tuesday when I go see it.

Someone on NissanForum told me yesterday it has a GA16i, and only packs 90hp.

I was wondering instead of doing a swap, how much can the motor withstead if I modifie it, and is it hard to find aftermarket support for it?

And if someone could give me some information on what are the con's and what are the possitive's on having this car.

Please let me know and here are the pics of it.

[ABNRML4U]

It looks Great!! for a 20year old car and it still runs!! Now that car has low miles too only { 120.000} a 20year old car will have 200,++ miles on a car. It's a 20 year car so, yeah it's going to have some rust on the car. Now as far as the GA16i There's only bolt on's but If It was me I would save for a SR20DE motor to make it screammmmm!!! and bet that Honda I would buy it for only $600-500!!! and make that Classic Nissan RE-BORN !! SEEEE YAAA Plus you can always get another door and lose the rust

[CB7tuner]

Lol, I wish, I would go with the swap but the work will cost me a bit. Most of the work if swap were to happen would be done by me and neighbor who's a very experienced tech. Only thing is I heard since it's a B12 it would cost around $4,000 for the whole swap which I don't mind.

Only issue is I also have to upgrade brakes and also If I were to swap I would like to turbo. Lol, so the $4000, would more then likely be around $6,000 not that bad though.

But while I'm saving I would like to at least have a decent 120-145hp on the stock engine. Would be nice, and also has anyone ever flipped a Sentra? They look too high and with those tiny slim tires they have, I would think it would flip if you take a turn to fast.

And the door isn't an issue, JY's around here are packed with Sentra's.

Thank for the reply by the way.

[CB7tuner]

Bump, please guys help me out. I just need some information, this will be the first time I step out of the Honda seen and step into Nissan's. I wan't to know what is the stock engine capable of doing ? I'm guessing nothing since I see everyone has basically swapped them out.

Also I found a site on other forums where they sell engine here inside the states and they are selling 91-94 SR20DE engine and this is what's included

List Of Parts Included • Complete Engine - Cylinder Head - Intake Manifold - Cylinder Block - Sensors - Exhaust Manifold - Fuel Rail - Injectors - Distributor - Throttle Body - Alternator - Ignition Wires - Pulleys - Valve cover - Oil Pan

They say it has about 20-60 thousand miles, 6months warrenty on it and they want $699.00 for it plus S&H, would this be a good deal?

And where would be a good site to JDM parts for a Sentra? Like emblems, exterior and interior stuff?

Please respond back guys, kinda difficult leaving the Honda crew since I'm so used to the support and it's pretty hard finding Sentra forums that are active.


Modified by CB7tuner at 3:49 AM 4/23/2009

[ProudNissanFreak]

Have you looked on eBay for sr20's? I've seen some pretty good deals over there.

[CB7tuner]

Yea I've looked and the best deal I've found is $750. It;s actually pretty good due to their factory is 10mins away from me, so I could pick up whenever I had the chance.

But what would be the best mods you could do to the stock engine, and how much horses would it produce?

[nametakennow]

We've had a B12 member or two do a swap... I'm sure they'll pop in at some point. You could try searching for something to do with B12's and swaps and see if you can find the member(s) email addy's.

[ProudNissanFreak]

I believe stock sr is 140 hp and obviously, a plethora of mods out there. I would recommend the 750 one since you can go pick it up instead of paying for shipping.

[CB7tuner]

Yea most likely I will end up buying there.Well that's when I have or buy the b12 I just found. Just finished emailing them (engine warehouse), questioning how much they would it sell if I buy the transmission as well.

I always taught the SR non turbo had about 200hp? I might be wrong but I've seen a couple built's and they state 200 maybe thats just the turbo version I'm guessing.

I've searched but I have not seen anyone built a GA16i, why is that? I know the aftermarket parts for these cars are very very limited but has anyone tested it's limit? Would be nice to drive around with something besides stock while I save up for the swap.

Thanks for the reply's guys.

[moersfelng08]

GA16i's are just too weak and heavy. A few people have built GA16DE's and turbo'd them and the whole nine yards, and end up with about 320hp in the end. An SR20 motor weighs (about) the same as a GA16 but obviously has more HP, much more potential, and performance parts readily available.

Now a stock N/A SR20DE makes 140-150hp. Not sure how much more HP the RR motors put out.

FWD SR20DET's do about 205hp on 7psi (stock). GTiR motor slightly higher but they are becoming quite rare and the parts are twice as expensive.

SR20VE's while having no torque are something like 175-200hp, I dont know the it was just an ECU tune or if there were actual differences between the two different VE's.

Hope that was helpful I'm sure people will help fill in the holes I left.

[CB7tuner]

Wow, SR20DE 140-150 isn't bad for a non turbo stock engine. I know this engine comes stock in the b13 SE-R, how bout the turbo version?

Btw is it true it's better if I get a SR20DE and add turbo onto it, it will be better then the SR20DET?

And to do the swap what I know I need is -Engine-SR20DE Trans-Custom motor mounts?-and thats all I know

I try searching but this forum is confusing I keep finding threads discussing the same thing but different information. Can you please inform me with what's needed, or a link with the correct info.

Thanks once again.

[moersfelng08]

Btw is it true it's better if I get a SR20DE and add turbo onto it, it will be better then the SR20DET?

There shouldn't be any noticible difference between an N/A that's been turbo'd and BlueBird or Avenier.

Wow, SR20DE 140-150 isn't bad for a non turbo stock engine. I know this engine comes stock in the b13 SE-R, how bout the turbo version?

Turbo version is only in JDM vehicles. Figure about $1500 for one depending on exactly which one you get they're all a little different.

And to do the swap what I know I need is -Engine-SR20DE Trans-Custom motor mounts?-and thats all I know

I try searching but this forum is confusing I keep finding threads discussing the same thing but different information. Can you please inform me with what's needed, or a link with the correct info.[/QUOTE]

-Engine-SR20DE Trans & Axles-Motor Mounts-ECU-Proper Wiring -Fuel Pump? Not sure how strong yours is

You could do it with just that without problems. If you're turboing it obviously more stuff.

[CB7tuner]

Wow, that's all? So basically I should look for a B13 and use as a parts car right, well wouldn't it be better? Or will it be better if I just buy the parts part by part?

Also since you happen to be very "informational" I was wondering if let's say I would like to make it perform better on a track, like corner wise and also for looks, would b13 parts fit a b12 ? If not want would be the best route for me to take to make the b12 perform more like a ff sports car?

Sorry for all the questions I'm pretty stupid when it comes to Nissan

[nametakennow]

On a B12 you may have to do some fabrication with the engine mounts to get an SR in there. You'll definitely need a fuel pump and FPR - Walbro makes a good pump, can't remember who all makes FPR's besides NISMO - which is expensive.

Suspension-wise, your guess is as good as mine.

[moersfelng08]

First reactions are that the suspension parts would work... but no promises...

If you got a B13 that you can look at you should be able to tell fairly easily if they'll work. And there are always ways to MAKE things work though that can be tricky.

[ABNRML4U]

It's always a +1 to find a engine around town or in your State so, that way you can see it In person. Just do your Homework and do not rush in to it the BUS is not leaving at the end of the month. I would bring your neghbor to go see the engine too and see what he says. If I were you I would get a engine locally. As far as B-12 to B-13 suspension parts I would look on-line like Megan Racing or Drivewire or Carstuff.com and compare I hope you get the Sentra so, that way you can Make this Nissan FLYYYYYYY Man!!!!

Peace

[CB7tuner]

Lol, I'll be seeing the car on Tuesday so HOPEFULLY it's as good as it looks.

About the FPR, can't I just take that off a SE-R? I never heard of a FPR before so I really don't know much about it. And what's Nismo offical site? I tryed Nismo.com and it sends me to their japenese site.

Suspension wise. I guess I'll keep searching and see what I could find. And I saw some coilover's for sell on ebay, but I don't want to go the cheap way, but just wondering if the coils at least desent? Has anyone ever tryed it?

And how about the transmission,where could I find one? And which would be best for the SR20DE?

On a side note, could I convert the front of the coupe, into like lets say the European Sunny? Looks alot better, then USDM.

[moersfelng08]

JDM front end conversions are really expensive, get the car and have more fun with the motor first.

Best transmission to use for an N/A SR20 motor is really any of them, but if you at least get a B14 one you get an LSD stock. If you plan on turbocharging the car you might want to look into a B15 or G20 tans since they known to be a little stronger. Sr20 transmissions are a little weak...

[CB7tuner]

So the b15 trans. doesn't have stock LSD? That sucks, but I guess if I turbo charge that's the best way to go. But would love to have LSD, so might have to change my mind about the turbo.

And on the conversion how much are we talking? And what site does everyone here buy JDM aftermarket parts?

[ABNRML4U]

Try JGYcustoms.com

[nametakennow]

The B15 SE Performance Package 5spd does have a VLSD, as does the G20 Touring trans. The base SE and G20 do not have LSD.

[CB7tuner]

How can I tell the difference between them? Like how would I tell if its the sport package or the touring ?

Please let me know.

[ABNRML4U]

Did you buy the Nissan Yet?

[nametakennow]

Easiest way on both is the wheels.

For the Sentra, the Performance Package ones have 16" 6 spoke wheels (there will also be a spoiler and front strut tower bar).

^My car, many moons ago...

For the G20, the Touring models got an 8 split spoke 16" wheel. I believe the spoiler was included in the Touring package as well.

[CB7tuner]

Thanks a lot, nametakennow. Very informal, all of my questions have been covered engine, and transmission wise. Thanks alot bud.

And to cover the "have you bought the car yet" question, my answer is no, I will be seeing the car tomorrow though, so I will inform you guys on what I do.

Thanks again everyone.

[ABNRML4U]

Well...... Did you buy it yet? any Info??

[sleepingsentra]

i have some questions myself i own a g20 and a b13 sentra xe i am planning to start the swap soon but i want to know if most of my g20 willl be able to swap over as well suck as motor mounts and such

[ABNRML4U]

Did you buy it yet?