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225/45 on a 10 widei had a 225/40, but it had a ****ed up bead, so i found these

ohh yeahhhh


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damn, what wheel is that ?

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the rear wheel of my car

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oh, the current wheels in your sig. nice.


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thats sweet man.

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I can hear 95% of NICO members crying right now.

Cool? Yes. Totally pointless? Pretty much.

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stretched tires>pulling the crap out of your fenders

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eds13 wrote:stretched tires>pulling the crap out of your fenders
mans got a point .

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What is wrong with Rolling and pulling your fenders? you kids are crazy these days...

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whiterps13 wrote:I can hear 95% of NICO members crying right now.

Cool? Yes. Totally pointless? Pretty much.
your an idiotcompletely not pointlessthats why I am the one people come to for fitment, and not youto pull off a perfect fitting wheel, the lip of the wheel should damn near kiss hte fender, however not hit it, as the suspension is compressing

in order to achieve that, rolling wont do it, but a super stretched tire will

dont ****ing make a post in my threads ever again, unless you know what your talking about

rolling only helps to do this style with wider wheels. either way you have to have mad camber, and strexhed tires.

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Dammit Grant, there's simply no reason for this crap.

"perfect fitment" for you = appearance.

"perfect fitment" for some others = performance.

And before you start blabbering about performance, let me remind you that no competitive motorsport (except drifting) uses stretched tires.

My staff will do the monitoring of who posts where, not you.


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did i say there was any performance benfit to streching in this post?

nobecuase there isnta mild stretch, yes as slight improvents in some areas, and less in others. its ideal for autocross where your speeds arent too high but you can benefit from the turn in

it is purely cosmetic purposes to run the widest, lowest offset wheels possible on any car.

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Then there's no reason to call anyone an idiot.

If someone's interested in performance, then by their assessment, it IS POINTLESS.

Cripes, he said it was cool.

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yokota180sx wrote:your an idiotcompletely not pointlessthats why I am the one people come to for fitment, and not youto pull off a perfect fitting wheel, the lip of the wheel should damn near kiss hte fender, however not hit it, as the suspension is compressing

in order to achieve that, rolling wont do it, but a super stretched tire will

dont ****ing make a post in my threads ever again, unless you know what your talking about

rolling only helps to do this style with wider wheels. either way you have to have mad camber, and strexhed tires.
Youre right, Ive never helped -anyone- with anything in this forum..

Youre idea of a perfect fitment works for you. Running a 225 on 10j in America is simply retarded. If you had to experience some of the ridiculous roads we encounter everyday youre rims would be trashed. I dont know if you daily drive that car, but you cant honestly tell me from a performance aspect that youre tires are helping you.

Jesus dude, I said it was cool. Most people on NICO think tire stretching is gay, which is exactly why I commented. Youre attacks on me are funny, but everyone on here knows you have something stuck up your ***.

You know a alot, and for the most part I agree with what you post. Redagrdless, you still act like a d!ck and take things personally. Not everyone thinks the same way you do. GET OVER IT.

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whiterps13 wrote:Youre idea of a perfect fitment works for you. Running a 225 on 10j in America is simply retarded. If you had to experience some of the ridiculous roads we encounter everyday youre rims would be trashed. I dont know if you daily drive that car, but you cant honestly tell me from a performance aspect that youre tires are helping you.
Just wanted to let u kno that Japan roads are just as bad.

Like I said I just wanted to tell u before yokota does, LOL.

To yokota: You are a wheel whore.

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whiterps13 wrote:Youre right, Ive never helped -anyone- with anything in this forum..

Youre idea of a perfect fitment works for you. Running a 225 on 10j in America is simply retarded. If you had to experience some of the ridiculous roads we encounter everyday youre rims would be trashed. I dont know if you daily drive that car, but you cant honestly tell me from a performance aspect that youre tires are helping you.

Jesus dude, I said it was cool. Most people on NICO think tire stretching is gay, which is exactly why I commented. Youre attacks on me are funny, but everyone on here knows you have something stuck up your ***.

You know a alot, and for the most part I agree with what you post. Redagrdless, you still act like a d!ck and take things personally. Not everyone thinks the same way you do. GET OVER IT.
if you experience the roads in japan, your thoughts would differ

the rest, i agree on. carry on.

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Stretched Tires.....Serious Business.

Not very good for any kind of straight line or corner exit traction, as there is no sidewall to give that give and grip.

But I guess alot of people want to be "Ballahs".

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guess you didnt read why i did it huh?

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OK, back on topic...

Are those Bridgestone? Look like OEM G35 tires....

I can't even imagine what they looked like before with a 10mm lower sidewall, holy crap....


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Michelin Pilots

horrible to stretch the sidewall is soo soft. but a nice tire...just not for this application

For the guys that dont understand, I wont be mean, i will actually help you understand it but taking a series of pictures to illustrate what happens to a wheel on the back of a nissan when you lower the hell out of it, and the reasoning behind a super stretch

no bggie

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I wasnt saying i didnt understand, I was mentioning some facts about the properties of strecthed tires...You can do it for looks all day, I could care less.

It makes for clean cars sure, but not something id have fun driving.

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Just for your info guys, drifting is not the only motorsport that stretches tires. Many of you are going to cry when I post this...but I'm not trying to make anyone cry. I'm trying to be informative. Greg, this is in no means a bust on you, you just may not have known and that's perfectly fine. BTW, I'll have your shirts out to you soon, the materials just came in!

Okay, on with the chlorophyll...OH NO, they couldn't have!!! Haha, yes, they are stretched..maybe not too much, but stretched none the less to increase track and beef up sidewall rigidity.

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"No competitive motorsport uses stretched tires" is a VAST blanket statement and not at all correct.

To understand why or why not certain motorsports see use of stretched tires, you must understand the type of tire being used and the properties of each given tire.

Many "slick" racing tires you see today are super soft compound, bias-ply tires. Bias ply tires generate more lateral (cornering) force at higher slip angles (slip angle is the angular difference between the plane of rotation of the tire, and the direction the tire's contact patch is pointing in) than they do at lower slip angles; having an unstretched, or even bulging sidewall reduces a property called "cornering stiffness," which describes the ability of the tire to generate slip angle for a given inflation pressure and normal (vertical) load. Therefore, if using a bias-ply slick tire, it is advantageous to run tall, bulging sidewalls as it puts you in a position to generate lots of slip angle, and therefore lots of corning force with that specific tire.

Radial tires, on the other hand, generate more cornering force at lower slip angles than they do at higher slip angles, where they tend to "wash out" and slide. Thus, when using a radial tire, it is best to run a lower profile, slightly stretched fit tire. Stretching the sidewall increases the cornering stiffness of the tire, keeping the tire at lower slip angles, and therefore creating more cornering force from the radial tire and preventing tire washout.

Stretching is also an advantage on some street tires (which are predominantly radial construction), as stretching tires reduces sidewall rollunder during heavy cornering and creates a more predictable breakaway feel in the car.

Therefore, while one race car may have a fat, bulging fit bias-ply tire, another race car can be equally as fast with a slightly stretched radial tire.

On topic though, i think the fitment of those tires looks f'in badass Grant. Everyone has their own sense of style when it comes to wheels and tires -- I tend to agree with your selection. It just looks super aggressive to me.

-Neel

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thanks for typing what i didnt want to

regardless, it is still rubbing, nad its still not low enough in the reari have to add some camber, and drop her anohter inch or two in the rear.

pics soon

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Tuck some wheel plz.

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Nicely said!

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might happen,

when i get my air rideit WILL happen

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yokota180sx wrote:
when i get my air rideit WILL happen
That is the most intteligent thing i have ever heard you say. You should be rockin' air ride. My next car will be.

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Damn badass!! 225 on 10" doesn't look as bad as I thought now I'm more tempted to buy my wheels.


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