240sxautox wrote:I never said it was anything new, he just recently got them in STOCK is what I said. that way you don't have to deal with shipping from australia, there's actually a guy selling them in australia for $465. Teh problem with that is the price for shipping it overseas. I'm not saying this is the best stuff in the world by any means, I'm just saying he's offering a good manifold for a good price, just for those looking for a manifold.
$465AUD is 365.825USD so I wouldn't use that argument.
http://www.xe.com to check for yourself... regardless... it really doesn't matter who makes it as long as who designed it is who gets the royalties.
This is why SSAC and all the others who carry the "knockoff" brands suck... supporting companies who produce products purely off of a 100% copy and no development/optimization of their own only hurt your future toward better products. Tial is a great example of a hurt company... lots of "tial" wastegates are sold on ebay that aren't actually theirs... a trained eye can tell before you install it that it's not made by Tial... not sure where the copy companies are at now... but function was down a while back vs the actual brand name parts... but that's still besides the point.
Using the above example... Tial takes time to design their products which cost money... and if funds don't come in... there are less to pay for the equipement/employees that design the new goods. Revolutionary products take a lot more capital than modifying existing designs...
On the flip side of that coin... I know Tial does their stuff inhouse... but larger companies (usually very large suppliers who may/may not be known to the public) will outsource their designed work to be made in china or wherever... as long as they meet their tolerances and specs... there's some money in their customer's pocket as well as their own
I've been thinking about this a lot recently (if you couldn't tell)... so be a smart customer and buy from the company who designed the product or the company they supply to should they not sell it directly...
Soo... back on topic... that manifold looks ok... what are the specs on it? I'd like to see it from the other side (mating side of the exh head flange) and inside of the ports to see the finishing work. Just because it's shinny doesn't make it good... but doesn't make it bad either. Who makes it/specs it? It'd be cool to know... that way they can get recognition if it turns out to be a good product... if TH spec'ed it and had it outsourced it would be good to know the specs... not saying he didn't, but it's good to know there is thought behind a product if you're coughing up $500 (significant amount of money to most people).