New RB20/25 Turbo Manifolds

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I'm sorry if this isn't posted in the right section, he just told me if I know anybody looking for a good manifold let them know, so I figured I'd let all of you guys know. By the way, this isn't SSAUTOCRAP!

*EDITED By WD* Reguardless of who you are or aren't affiliated with, advertising is advertising. We have paying sponsors who sell manifolds for the RB series. So we just can't allow a non paying company to advertise. The fact that this company has people going around advertising for him is shady in itself. If you have issue with why this was edited and locked I can be reached via email, [email protected]


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Cool for comparison sake, what turbo is that on there?

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I'm not sure what turbo is on there, but that car it's on is a monster on the road track.

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looks like ssac imho

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but it's not ssac as I just said... it's straight from Japan and it's all stainless and actually welded, unlike ssac. it's an extremely strong manifold.

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StricNyne wrote:looks like ssac imho
It's probably not SS Autocrap.

But.... alot of people sell the similar mani's and they probably all come from Taiwan. And they're probably copies of copies of copies.

But Mike is a good guy though.So it's probably a good mani.

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It is, it's actually steel, and from japan not from Taiwan. I questioned wayyyyy too hard on that, I've been looking for a good manifold for so damn long and he's finally getting these again. They're sweet.

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is it double walled??

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http://www.wasabigarage.com/RB_turbomanifold.html

Hmm looks familiar... not exactly the same but... very similar design with the t4 divided flange

either way both of the manifolds look much better than the ssac t3 flanged one.

I have personally worked with the wasabi manifold which worked out extremely well except for one thing. The turbo flange is a bit too close to the head, which will cause interference with larger turbos. So i would definitely like to know the sizing of the turbo in the picture since it looks like it has slightly better clearance.

Another thing which is purely personal preference, was the wastegate pipe. Although you can run it to the back, i found it much much more convenient to cut and flip the pipe to face it forward. If routed toward the back you have to figure out how to position the downpipe, water/oil lines, steering column, and wastegate so that they have good clearance from each other. Routing it forward made life a million times easier. Downpipe and water/oil lines have plenty of clearance and are easy to reach and work on. Wastegate is also very easy to work on, plus the vac lines are now right by the ic piping which is convenient....

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honestly thats nothing new, the aussie guys have been offering that same manifold for years now...

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I never said it was anything new, he just recently got them in STOCK is what I said. that way you don't have to deal with shipping from australia, there's actually a guy selling them in australia for $465. Teh problem with that is the price for shipping it overseas. I'm not saying this is the best stuff in the world by any means, I'm just saying he's offering a good manifold for a good price, just for those looking for a manifold.

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It's $500.00 for a reason. Manufacturers and retailers don't stay in business through charity. Things cost what they cost for a reason and when the top manifolds command prices in the thousands and I see one priced at $500 I wonder "why"? Now if the guy is a genous welder with no business acumen then that would explain it but I suspect that is not the case.

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idk i am 50/50 i am always down to try new **** and i realize i am far from rich, so i am usually down to try new things espically cheap new things

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240sxautox wrote:I never said it was anything new, he just recently got them in STOCK is what I said. that way you don't have to deal with shipping from australia, there's actually a guy selling them in australia for $465. Teh problem with that is the price for shipping it overseas. I'm not saying this is the best stuff in the world by any means, I'm just saying he's offering a good manifold for a good price, just for those looking for a manifold.
$465AUD is 365.825USD so I wouldn't use that argument. http://www.xe.com to check for yourself... regardless... it really doesn't matter who makes it as long as who designed it is who gets the royalties.

This is why SSAC and all the others who carry the "knockoff" brands suck... supporting companies who produce products purely off of a 100% copy and no development/optimization of their own only hurt your future toward better products. Tial is a great example of a hurt company... lots of "tial" wastegates are sold on ebay that aren't actually theirs... a trained eye can tell before you install it that it's not made by Tial... not sure where the copy companies are at now... but function was down a while back vs the actual brand name parts... but that's still besides the point.

Using the above example... Tial takes time to design their products which cost money... and if funds don't come in... there are less to pay for the equipement/employees that design the new goods. Revolutionary products take a lot more capital than modifying existing designs...

On the flip side of that coin... I know Tial does their stuff inhouse... but larger companies (usually very large suppliers who may/may not be known to the public) will outsource their designed work to be made in china or wherever... as long as they meet their tolerances and specs... there's some money in their customer's pocket as well as their own

I've been thinking about this a lot recently (if you couldn't tell)... so be a smart customer and buy from the company who designed the product or the company they supply to should they not sell it directly...

Soo... back on topic... that manifold looks ok... what are the specs on it? I'd like to see it from the other side (mating side of the exh head flange) and inside of the ports to see the finishing work. Just because it's shinny doesn't make it good... but doesn't make it bad either. Who makes it/specs it? It'd be cool to know... that way they can get recognition if it turns out to be a good product... if TH spec'ed it and had it outsourced it would be good to know the specs... not saying he didn't, but it's good to know there is thought behind a product if you're coughing up $500 (significant amount of money to most people).


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The $465 was in USD, not AUD. It was originally $550 there as well but they have a discount going on, I'll try and find the link again.


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Hmm this looks oddly familiar also? but claims to be made in canada...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...US:11

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I doubt it's this thick tho.


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damn that would be nice, but I doubt it's that thick also. We'll see, they should be here in about 30 days. Has anyone else called to get any other specs? I just figured I'd post it up here so you guys could take a look at it. I'm actually using a stock turbo manifold that I'm having a wastegate flange welded onto it for my tial wastegate.

So another question... kind of threadjacking my own thread... I bought this RB20 and the ECU is romtuned with the pocket romulator from http://www.xtronics.com and the guy who delivered it for me (I bought it from a guy in chicago) said the redline has been changed to 9500rpm... which I was kind of blown away by. Anybody know if this is true, and if so is it even remotely safe? I never plan on having it at 9500rpm but still I'd like to know. I also ordered the garrett GT32, it's being delivered soon, and of course all the other goodies. I've been taking it apart lately (doing all the regular maintenance) and it has a brand new waterpump on it which I didnt expect but I'm happy about, the cams look BRAND NEW which is very odd, makes me think it had performance cams in it previously (or it still does) Who knows... the motor is probably built up, it was a speed shops car and then this guy bought it.

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Just open the ecu or plug it into the car and read the rom. Then change it with Liveedit or Romeditor. I'm not so shart with Liveedit but Romeditor I'm ok with.

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sounds good, I've just never heard of these guys running 9500rpm. given the race skylines run what like 12,000rpm or something like that.

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