New Pennzoil oil

[Bubba1]

I suspect if there was an impartial independent testing org (like Consumer Reports) that published real life tests on all the oils, that most everything that ine937 told us is true, including that there's little difference between oils that meet the same stiff federal/manufacturer standards/requirements. And a better oil is more a case of how many requirements/ratings it has surpassed, than the brand. And I'm sure that includes boutique brands as well. I think much of the oil arguments we have are more due to those regulations not extending to the advertising claims made by the oil companies/retailers use, many of which are shamefully misleading. I'm not claiming certain brands are bad, but we Americans are a fickle people in general with too many believing advertising hype.

[DrewH]

Not exactly sure what you're trying to say here? If someone uses a particular oil, for any decent length of time, on multiple vehicles, and never suffers from a single lubrication issue. What you have are real time bench tests, in real world conditions, with multiple sources tested.

What you have there is a contradiction. Bench tests are done in a controlled environment to ensure the data collected isn't impacted by external conditions. As we know the real world is anything but controlled.

What I'm trying to say is that it doesn't need to take a lubrication issue to consider one oil better than another. Not to mention that friction is a constant lubrication issue and the basis for my statement.

Unless you're buying quart bottles of boutique oil, like Redline and Amsoil, the price is fairly negligible. Usually within a $1.50 or so a quart. If a person chooses to continue to rely on information he personally gathered, vs save a dollar just because he can, I find no fault in that approach at all.

Especially since all modern day synthetics are very close in chemical make-up and performance.

I'm so glad you brought up Redline and Amsoil. In all of my research which is done solely for the needs of my cars, Ultra performed better. It's not save a dollar because he can its save a dollar because he should.

The term 'very close' denotes something that is almost immeasurable and when it comes to performance I couldn't disagree more. It makes no difference to me what any of you run nor your reasons for doing so. When the next oil that does a better job comes along I will have no problem switching to it. Regardless of who its made by.

That said and in keeping on topic with this thread I look forward to seeing some UOA's from Pennzoils new product and how they compare to what's presently on the market.

[WDRacing]

"Never trust someone trying to sell you something". I got that advice early on in life. I find it to be fairly solid advice as one liners go.

[Rogue One]

"Never trust someone trying to sell you something". I got that advice early on in life. I find it to be fairly solid advice as one liners go.

That, and never trust anyone under 30 wearing a tie. I never could understand how wearing a noose around your neck could be a fashion accessory.

[Bubba1]

That, and never trust anyone under 30 wearing a tie. I never could understand how wearing a noose around your neck could be a fashion accessory.

Clearly you've never been to a "foul" tie event.