I just rode on one at Summit Point after several years. I had almost forgotten how nice they were.Gold Digger wrote:Meh...they aight...![]()
Not to say I would rock the hell outta one if given the opportunity. I see a blue one around here on some polished BBS meshies. The exhaust note alone is enough to make you tight in the pants.
I love the look but am underwhelmed with the numbers. Though, I have never ridden in, driven or even sat in one. Joel, how tight are the interiors?Bubba1 wrote:
I just rode on one at Summit Point after several years. I had almost forgotten how nice they were.
It's looks more snug than it is. The seats are comfortable. the passengers legroom feels narrow as it approaches the front, but the drivers position is all business. Love the setup. It's great on a race track, but I can see passengers getting annoyed on a long highway trip.93coupe wrote:I love the look but am underwhelmed with the numbers. Though, I have never ridden in, driven or even sat in one. Joel, how tight are the interiors?Bubba1 wrote:
I just rode on one at Summit Point after several years. I had almost forgotten how nice they were.
This video was shot with multiple dslr cameras and was put together in 5 hours prior to the final day of this event. VO was done last minute just to tie in to the footage and received an overwhelming response from the owners when presented at their banquet dinner.Empty V wrote:Nice dude! The video looks like you had a good budget behind it and obviously you know how to edit and color correct. What cameras did you shoot with? I think the audio needs a lot of work though. If it were me I'd either go back and have a protools guy make make the VO sound more authentic or start over. The music behind is it cool though.
the HP number seems week, but if you look at the car's straightline, it was pretty damn impressive when it came out.93coupe wrote:I love the look but am underwhelmed with the numbers. Though, I have never ridden in, driven or even sat in one. Joel, how tight are the interiors?Bubba1 wrote:
I just rode on one at Summit Point after several years. I had almost forgotten how nice they were.
Mr1der wrote: the HP number seems week, but if you look at the car's straightline, it was pretty damn impressive when it came out.
Honda made a solid argument against the Ferrari F's of the time. The F355 was marginally faster and a good deal more expensive, especially on the maintenance end.
the Ferrari whens on the exhaust note though....they always seem to do that.
I agree with Mr1der. when the NSX first came out, they were not overpriced or underpowered. I do recognize Acura dealers raped early buyers like Ford and Nissan dealers did with the Ford GT and GT-R. But by the second model year, you could get one under list price. I do agree they eventually became overpriced when Honda kept raising the price without doing any significant development to it.flohtingPoint wrote:
The only thing the NSX had going for it was that Ayrton Senna helped sort out the chassis, other than that, they're just a massively overpriced Japanese car. It's not very fair to compare them to something as sophisticated as a Ferrari. I sat in one while doing some instructing and found myself more frustrated than anything with the car.
you saying the NSX wasn't sophisticated?flohtingPoint wrote:That's a lot of money to spend on parking lot furniture!
Mr1der wrote: the HP number seems week, but if you look at the car's straightline, it was pretty damn impressive when it came out.
Honda made a solid argument against the Ferrari F's of the time. The F355 was marginally faster and a good deal more expensive, especially on the maintenance end.
the Ferrari whens on the exhaust note though....they always seem to do that.
The only thing the NSX had going for it was that Ayrton Senna helped sort out the chassis, other than that, they're just a massively overpriced Japanese car. It's not very fair to compare them to something as sophisticated as a Ferrari. I sat in one while doing some instructing and found myself more frustrated than anything with the car.
Sophistication aside, you have drive one in anger to really understand why they're more silly than supercar. Under heavy braking they push very bad (like frustratingly bad) and their out of pocket acceleration capability is later than my crappy Corolla. On a much more open course (think Monza) I'm sure they're fine, but on Summit Main I wanted to punch the steering wheel like Samir in Office Space.Mr1der wrote:
you saying the NSX wasn't sophisticated?
being the first production car with an aluminum moncoque chassis has to count for something....
I love the Italians...but the bastards over complicate things. The NSX was the typical Japanese approach to a supercar and it got the job done quite well
I'm sad the V10 project got canned. Honda's KISS approach to building cars is fantastic.
what killed the mystique of the NSX was the later years when the competition was well beyond it. It was still a very capable car, but sorely lacking in the power department.
I guess we have different tastes. The last NSX I was in was on Summit's Shenandoah. I thought it was delightful. Between a Viper and NSX for street use, I'd take an NSX long before a Viper. Viper is too primitive, especially the first gen. But for track use, (and I've tried both at the track) I'm not sure which one I'd want more because they are both so different in their approach.flohtingPoint wrote:Sophistication aside, you have drive one in anger to really understand why they're more silly than supercar. Under heavy braking they push very bad (like frustratingly bad) and their out of pocket acceleration capability is later than my crappy Corolla. On a much more open course (think Monza) I'm sure they're fine, but on Summit Main I wanted to punch the steering wheel like Samir in Office Space.Mr1der wrote:
you saying the NSX wasn't sophisticated?
being the first production car with an aluminum moncoque chassis has to count for something....
I love the Italians...but the bastards over complicate things. The NSX was the typical Japanese approach to a supercar and it got the job done quite well
I'm sad the V10 project got canned. Honda's KISS approach to building cars is fantastic.
what killed the mystique of the NSX was the later years when the competition was well beyond it. It was still a very capable car, but sorely lacking in the power department.
Considering a Viper was in it's price range and only weighed around 200 lbs more, the NSX is hardly worth it.
I do a lot of very heavy trail braking, it's how I get the car to rotate for me. I've driven other MR cars before but none as LONG as an NSX (Elise, Exige, MR2's, MRS), and the NSX pushed a very unsightly amount.Bubba1 wrote:
I guess we have different tastes. The last NSX I was in was on Summit's Shenandoah. I thought it was delightful. Between a Viper and NSX for street use, I'd take an NSX long before a Viper. Viper is too primitive, especially the first gen. But for track use, (and I've tried both at the track) I'm not sure which one I'd want more because they are both so different in their approach.
I agree with what you said about the specs, and power of the Viper. My issue is that the primordial driving experiences I had with the first gen Viper, while great fun on a race track, IMHO do not translate well to the street. It's easy to tolerate the heavy clutch & brakes, slushy gearbox, burning legs (left leg by the exhaust under the door sill, right leg by the hot transmission tunnel), and poor front visibility when the adrenaline is pumping. But it would become annoying quickly to me on a road trip. The NSX is a much more forgiving and "tighter" car for both street and track. I don't recall experiencing a lot of push in any of the NSX's I've driven, but then again, I never autocrossed one.flohtingPoint wrote:I do a lot of very heavy trail braking, it's how I get the car to rotate for me. I've driven other MR cars before but none as LONG as an NSX (Elise, Exige, MR2's, MRS), and the NSX pushed a very unsightly amount.
Viper is about the same length, has a better wheelbase, is faster, better powerband and has plenty of room for different wheel configurations to minimize unsprung mass and maximize contact patch. Primordial it may be, but you're also talking to a guy who doesn't have a car made in the past two decades =)
So you were able to get helicopter shots 5 hours before you shot it? 100% s*** and now 0 credibility.LVRS_Jay wrote:This video was shot with multiple dslr cameras and was put together in 5 hours prior to the final day of this event.
Well of course. I've got a buddy who does home videos and his friends love them because they see themselves in them and they're complete crap.LVRS_Jay wrote:VO was done last minute just to tie in to the footage and received an overwhelming response from the owners when presented at their banquet dinner.