stebo0728 wrote:The problem is this. Its impossible for conservatives to win a three man race when two of them are at least somewhat conservative. The conservative vote erodes for both candidates to a point that neither stand a chance. If you want to see real change, it needs to be a four man race, with two being conservative/libertarian and two being liberal/progressive/green. We have a libertarian party now rising, that seeks to compete for conservative leaning voters. Until there's a party that competes for liberal leaning voters, this retarded two man nonsense will continue to dominate the cycle.
I think that's a misconception. Libertarian ideas appeal to moderate liberals just like moderate conservatives. The issues that attract them are different, but I'd say it's 60/40 cons/libs. Think about these issues.
For conservatives you have strong immigration enforcement, but also with reforms that will streamline legal immigration and give "undocumented workers" (I love that wordplay
) away out of the shadows for the liberals.
Health care is looked at with the liberal-freindly admission that the system is expensive and flawed and needs to be fixed, but with smart market solutions that please the conservatives.
Conservatives can hang their hats on strong defense of the second ammendment, yes, but for liberals whose antiwar rhetoric is more than just words, there's only one guy talking about bringing people home right now.
On the environment it could be argued that the policies are more business freindly than planet freindly, but the subsidization of big oil is out of business so it's a balanced approach.
Liberals say they are fighting for civil liberty despite their support for the patriot act and other such measures. Who is the only guy talking about repealing all that? Exactly. he's also the same guy talking about equal marriage rights for same sex couples. You don't consider that a conservative stand do you?
When Romney attacks federal control of education, do you think he's alone? Tax reform? He's whispering when a certain candate is pounding his fist and yelling. That's sure enough a conservative stand, but what about free speech?
Liberals want free speech on the web? They say they do. So does a certain candidate. Weird huh?
Sure liberals won't like having entitlement programs scrutinized, but they sure will love it when the defense budget gets the same discerning eye. Both voting blocks claim to care about deficits and here is a guy talking about balancing the federal budget YEAR ONE. Put up or shut up people.
There's something there for everyone and to suggest a candidate like Johnson doesn't appeal to a broad base ignores basic analysis. America is like that girl that keeps saying she's looking for a funny, smart, sincere guy, but keeps dating ripped pretty boys who like to party all the time and smack them around. At some point the American electorate is going to need to confront their complicity in the ails that befall them.
If Obama really and truly after hard scrutity speaks to your values and walks the walk on them to, you should vote for him. I won't think any less of you. Hell, I'll respect your decision because I know you put some thought into it and your are really voting your values. even if I disagree with the values you hold, I cannot but appreciate the process you vetted your choice by and would work with you on solving the nation's problems any day.
If your vote for Romney is arrived at through the same process than the same applies.
If, however, you vote for Obama out of laziness, reflex, anger at or fear of the Republicans or the same motivators lead you to the open arms of the massachusetts forehead, you are a willing sheep and deserve the shearing that comes no matter which smiling ***hole is running the shears. I may like you personally, but as a citizen I detest you and hold zero respect for your voice as it filters through a defeatist mindset and is more repugnant than simple ignorance because it is the product of an intelligent person purposefully casting aside logic.
The sheep locked in the pen with you who realize they are trapped and want to escape wish you would get with the program and stop pushing us all into the barn out of habit. Quisling would be proud.
