New iphone operating system supposed to replace in car syst

[Scottweinberg1]

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1581 ... fotainment
What does this mean for my 2012M56. I like the in car infotanment system, but there is a few things lacking. Would this be an improvement of not? Will Infiniti make and update for a 2012 model or below?

[wingFeather]

No thanks.

[TDot]

What am I missing? You can already do that with android.

[SmoovC]

What am I missing? You can already do that with android.

Exactly. If I wanted 3 to 4 year old technology, I would have purchased an iPhone.

[Larz]

Seems like a nice idea if your car doesn't already have NAV in it, or don't want to buy an upgraded model. Also, I'm not a fan of i-anything or Apple in general. I have an HTC mobile and have had for years - love them. I don't want my phone mounted in the open and have to manipulate that to tell my screen what to show. My HTC sits comfy in the console or in my pocket, linked to the car without brackets and wires and I'm happy using my voice to politely speak to my smart and lovely assistant, Gloria (the lady who lives in my car).

hmmm ... maybe a bit too much sugar in my morning tea?

[Scottweinberg1]

ok that is what I thought. it is just the same crap we already had, thanks for the head slap

[wingFeather]

No head slapping necessary. If this concept was detached from Apple then I might support it, but it would have to be some kind of open system that simply extends the screen & functionality of *your smartphone of choice*. This is easily doable with Android phones (an hdmi input cable would suffice), but Apple probably wouldn't allow this - and they'd obsolete it in a future iOS version requiring another purchase (much like they completely dropped all support for older iPhones, forcing you to upgrade).

[Scottweinberg1]

they hdmi cable in my 2012 m56 does not work on my galaxy 3, Bluetooth does. I just want to say for the record my m56 is awesome

[bluedevil30]

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1581 ... fotainment
What does this mean for my 2012M56. I like the in car infotanment system, but there is a few things lacking. Would this be an improvement of not? Will Infiniti make and update for a 2012 model or below?

I'm not sure if the new Ms have integrated mobile internet but I know the new Audis do. Why do I want to have 2 mobile bills - personal cell and car for the same thing? Why can't my car just mirror my I-phone screen? Free Mapquest on my phone is a better Nav than on my M35. Why do I need all that duplication?

[GaryREM]

I always find these discussions funny, with quick of the cuff remarks and no facts.

I'm really interested in you Android experts showing some real examples of an Android installation that is

- integrated with a cars display
- integrated with steering wheel buttons
- integrated with the audio system (more than BTA)
- has displays specific for car use

Maybe I can learn something from you!

Gary

(cnet had the video snippet from Apple's developer conference at http://cnettv.cnet.com/ios-7-goes-full- ... 48624.html)

[Ilya]

I always find these discussions funny, with quick of the cuff remarks and no facts.

I'm really interested in you Android experts showing some real examples of an Android installation that is

- integrated with a cars display
- integrated with steering wheel buttons
- integrated with the audio system (more than BTA)
- has displays specific for car use

Maybe I can learn something from you!

Gary

(cnet had the video snippet from Apple's developer conference at http://cnettv.cnet.com/ios-7-goes-full- ... 48624.html)

iOS has it's uses, just like Android does. Give it a rest. Apple was cool in 2007/2008. Overall, in what an OS can do or feasibly be capable of doing, Android is LIGHT YEARS ahead of iOS. Why? Because it's based on open source. Open source > proprietary ALL DAY. I give thanks and kudos to Apple for really starting this Smart Phone war (keep in mind they weren't the inventor of the smart phone), but they are no longer king. Not even close. They aren't even an innovator anymore. The crème de la crème is Samsung and their Galaxy. And that's an HTC fan boy (me) saying so.

[Larz]

Maybe I'm missing something in all of this? I can't imagine why I would be using an internet browser whilst driving my car. I have an HTC (love them!) with internet acess (never use it) and blue tooth / hands free for calling and receiving calls. I have CDs, XM, AM, FM and a phone book all available with a simple voice command. If I'm resting at a car park or what you lot call 'rest areas' on the motorway, I can relax with my music, listen to live CNN or other shows on XM, or watch DVDs in surround sound with the player that came with my console.
Having internet in my car seems a bit useless. When I'm driving, I don't want to watch music vids or anything else on the screen. Aside from a glance to check the NAV info whilst on a road trip, I never look at the screen. When I'm driving, my attention is usually directed towards ... erm ... driving.

[GaryREM]

I always find these discussions funny, with quick of the cuff remarks and no facts.

I'm really interested in you Android experts showing some real examples of an Android installation that is

- integrated with a cars display
- integrated with steering wheel buttons
- integrated with the audio system (more than BTA)
- has displays specific for car use

Maybe I can learn something from you!

Gary

(cnet had the video snippet from Apple's developer conference at http://cnettv.cnet.com/ios-7-goes-full- ... 48624.html)

iOS has it's uses, just like Android does. Give it a rest. Apple was cool in 2007/2008. Overall, in what an OS can do or feasibly be capable of doing, Android is LIGHT YEARS ahead of iOS. Why? Because it's based on open source. Open source > proprietary ALL DAY. I give thanks and kudos to Apple for really starting this Smart Phone war (keep in mind they weren't the inventor of the smart phone), but they are no longer king. Not even close. They aren't even an innovator anymore. The crème de la crème is Samsung and their Galaxy. And that's an HTC fan boy (me) saying so.

Woah. I'm not trying to argue Android vs iOS. I agree that both have their uses and there are some great Android phones out there.

What I hate is hearing things like "Android has been doing this for years". I think that is BS in this case.

I personally think this is a good idea and if my next gen car provided an upgradable Nav and 'infotainment' system that would be a great advance. Having NAV that is constantly being updated and features like weather and integrated audio apps would be great.

Gary

[wingFeather]

Gary,

Yes, Android has a display mode specific for car use - "Driving Mode".

If I can control my home TV through an app, and control my car's ODBII system through an app, then Infiniti should have no problem controlling other car functions. Yes, this means steering wheel buttons could be controlled.

The truth is that these car makers do not want to give up their gravy train. Why should they replace their "nav tech journey infotainment package deluxe" (aka "80% markup) with a dock that would allow you to use your own $300 tablet?

[Ilya]

iOS has it's uses, just like Android does. Give it a rest. Apple was cool in 2007/2008. Overall, in what an OS can do or feasibly be capable of doing, Android is LIGHT YEARS ahead of iOS. Why? Because it's based on open source. Open source > proprietary ALL DAY. I give thanks and kudos to Apple for really starting this Smart Phone war (keep in mind they weren't the inventor of the smart phone), but they are no longer king. Not even close. They aren't even an innovator anymore. The crème de la crème is Samsung and their Galaxy. And that's an HTC fan boy (me) saying so.

Woah. I'm not trying to argue Android vs iOS. I agree that both have their uses and there are some great Android phones out there.

What I hate is hearing things like "Android has been doing this for years". I think that is BS in this case.

I personally think this is a good idea and if my next gen car provided an upgradable Nav and 'infotainment' system that would be a great advance. Having NAV that is constantly being updated and features like weather and integrated audio apps would be great.

Gary

Gary,

Yes, Android has a display mode specific for car use - "Driving Mode".

If I can control my home TV through an app, and control my car's ODBII system through an app, then Infiniti should have no problem controlling other car functions. Yes, this means steering wheel buttons could be controlled.

The truth is that these car makers do not want to give up their gravy train. Why should they replace their "nav tech journey infotainment package deluxe" (aka "80% markup) with a dock that would allow you to use your own $300 tablet?

Agreed on both counts.

[GaryREM]

Gary,

Yes, Android has a display mode specific for car use - "Driving Mode".

If I can control my home TV through an app, and control my car's ODBII system through an app, then Infiniti should have no problem controlling other car functions. Yes, this means steering wheel buttons could be controlled.

The truth is that these car makers do not want to give up their gravy train. Why should they replace their "nav tech journey infotainment package deluxe" (aka "80% markup) with a dock that would allow you to use your own $300 tablet?

Thanks wing!

However, I thought that 'driving mode' was just a text output option which reads messages, alerts, etc. while driving so you didn't have to look at your phone.

Since Infiniti has supposedly signed onto this Apple effort, hopefully this is changing.

Gary

[wingFeather]

I thought that 'driving mode' was just a text output option which reads messages, alerts, etc. while driving so you didn't have to look at your phone.

I'm not entirely sure. My previous phone (an HTC) had a car specific screen with large buttons for navigation, phone and music. This screen came in handy back when I had a BMW, which is the worst car ever when it comes to user interfaces (thousands of tiny buttons which control dim red lcd displays).

My new phone (Samsung) doesn't have this... took me a while to notice because I rarely use car mode thanks to the M's excellent electronics

However, I just downloaded a free app that does something similar, so I guess the point is moot. An app like this probably exists for the Apple stuffs, too - which brings us back to the observation that car makers COULD allow for customers to use their own devices as head units... they are simply too greedy to do so.