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Post by **ca28** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

whats up guys. after skimming through the forums ive finally decided to join the masses. im dave from detroit, btw, and i own an '89 240sx coupe w/ca18det. the car's been in the shop since dec 03 so i should be getting it back within the next week with the following mods:

t28 upgradeapexi fmichks mega flow intake systemTurbo XS RFL3" Custom turbo back exhaustGreddy full auto timerBlitz blm boost gauge / Auto Meter A/F gauge

so with all these mods what do you figure my hp range will be ?

Post by **cuzan0** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

i would say maybe 190-200rwhp

Post by **ca28** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

that sounds about right. my goal is to get around 300~350hp by summer. how much boost are u runnin?

Post by **cuzan0** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

right now im running 18psi but my coil packs are bad right now so 14psi is where im at now

Post by **ca28** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

wait you mean ca's can handle 18psi on stock internals? thats dope! a friend of mine just got his sr20det and wants to run me. he basically has the same mods as me fmic, intake, 3" dp to 2 1/4 cat back exhaust, BOV. neither of us have EBC's so who do you think would win ?

Post by **Xero** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

you'd get eaten alive, he's got torque, you have none.

now, that's exagerating, but he's got more torque, you have a bit more potential in the valvetrain department, though, but stock for stock, or even light modded for light modded, the SR will win,

Post by **ca18det_boy** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

Doesn't that go back to the driver??? I'd say the SR has more displacement but I have to love the CA.

Post by **Xero** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

you're right, it does, especially in a drag race.

(I'm assuming he wants to drag race, that's what all the youngsters these days wanna do, right?)

Post by **Nismo1182** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

ca28 wrote:wait you mean ca's can handle 18psi on stock internals? thats dope! a friend of mine just got his sr20det and wants to run me. he basically has the same mods as me fmic, intake, 3" dp to 2 1/4 cat back exhaust, BOV. neither of us have EBC's so who do you think would win ?

18? haha

ask how much boost Dee has ran on his CA's.

Boost doesnt matter, detonation does. I learned that the hardway when I replaced me head gasket.

Post by **nab911** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

Yeah, in Dee's sentra he was running like 24 all day. He just has to worry about making his little sentra looking nice

Post by **cuzan0** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

ca28 wrote:wait you mean ca's can handle 18psi on stock internals? thats dope! a friend of mine just got his sr20det and wants to run me. he basically has the same mods as me fmic, intake, 3" dp to 2 1/4 cat back exhaust, BOV. neither of us have EBC's so who do you think would win ?

yes the motor can handle 18-20 psi you just need upgraded clutch,upgraded turbo,tuned ecu or standalone and or piggyback ecu ,bigger fuel injectors 370cc are to small to run high boost, good size fmic,Z32 mafs 80mm or Q45 mafs 90mm wich is what im using,electronic or manual boost controller,ugraded fuel pump,fuel pump regulator....see i have them mods on my car dynoed it and at the time i had the stock ca mafs i pulled a 242rwhp. I need to fix and change my coil packs then i will get back on the dyno and see how much i can pull with this q45 mafs and retune the safc II.

you're asking if you can beat an sr20 yes the ca can beat sr's up!!! again you'll need the right mods. look i have 2 friends 1 with a s13 coupe with a s14 s20det same and s13 hatch redtop sr20det raced both cars!!!! both cars had the jump on me like 1/2 a car but then caught up on 2nd gear dead even until 3rd gear came just started to walk the cars. our motors dont have great torque but they do have topend!!

Post by **float_6969** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

They have top end as long as you're not useing that crappy stock T25....

Post by **ca28** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

you guys mentioned piggyback or stand alone tuning. this is the problem im running into... which to run. part of me says **** it and go with a Haltech E6X, but in the same token ive seen 600hp supras using SAFC II's. some people tell me voltage modifers only go so far and whatnot. with all these choices its hard to decide which is right for me.

also cuzan0, you said good size fmic, is the apexi fmic a bad choice?

Post by **float_6969** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

It depend on your goals and how much money you want to spend. If you've got dough coming out of your ears, get standalone and do it right. If you're poor like me, that kinda of money isn't easy to come by, and with my goals, I'm not sure I need standalone. Though I would still like to have it some day anyway.

Post by **rbsileighty** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

I would not compare a whole lot to a Supra, and it's tuning ability. You have to remember for $2k you can be around 4-450 hp at the wheels. If you have the money to do the standalones that's what I'd do.

I was talking to HKS on the phone one day and he recommended that for the power I was looking to run (on a RX7 13BT) not to go with the F-Con but to go with a Haltech or something simiilar. Which standalone you go with really comes down to who is near by, and what system are they the best/most comfortable with tuning.

Remember that by the time you spend the money on all of the piggybacks, you will be at or possibly past what some of these Haltechs and such are going for (seen haltechs going for $1k on ebay fairly consistantly).

I want to un some form of standalone on my RB20DET for these reasons.

Looks like there are a lot of parts in the states for keeping up a CA18. Maybe I'll get another S13 and do this swap for my daily, when I am down south next year for good and sell the Pathfinder. I have always liked the CA motor. Underdogs like the CA and the RB20 rule.

I would love to see your car CA28. I will be heading up to Flint next Saturday.

Post by **ca28** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

so basically youre sayin that with some good dyno time and tuning with the safc2, i could surpass a haltec for a fraction of the cost?

Post by **ca28** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

yea that would be tight. drop me a line when you get in the area.

Post by **rbsileighty** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

ca28 wrote:so basically youre sayin that with some good dyno time and tuning with the safc2, i could surpass a haltec for a fraction of the cost?

No, I guess it came across wrong. With some dyno time with a standalone you should be putting out reliable power for the same price as if you bought all of the piggyback computers required to equal a standalone. MK4 Supras are just monsters that have the flexibility from the factory to go from a strong street car to a street terror with little modification. What I was saying is that we can't really use what MK4 Supras use as a baseline for our modifications.

Post by **ca28** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:27 pm

right i gotcha. well it looks like im goin standalone from here on out. now i just gotta get a set of 550's an fpr and fuel pump.

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