New guy from enemy territory!

[need2speed94]

I'm new to this forum! I do not currently own a Nissan, although as far as imports go, Nissan is my first choice. Only Nissan in my family was my dad's 90' 5spd TTZ32 (man I miss that thing). Some friends told me this is a good forum to learn about 240sx's. I'm mostly into domestics (also own one), but those 180/240sx hatchback's with always have my repsect. I just love the way they look. I hope to learn a ton about them before picking one up. Eventually, I'd love to own a 1st gen 240sx with an LS1/T56 swap Anyways, to start things off... I've always been confused, I've seen 2 different 240sx's:

This one:

And this one:


As far as I know, they utilize the same platform and share the same name... but they look different? Someone care to explain to me what's the difference (name/model)?, I'm very uneducated about these cars as you can already tell haha

-Marcus

[badbob2121]

Seriously? You couldnt find any of this out on your own? Have you ever heard of Google?

Read this
the-240sx-info-introduction-faq-thread- ... 83490.html
and then start reading from here
the-ultimate-sticky-read-before-posting ... 41882.html

and then refrain from starting more stupid threads and just post your questions in here..
the-i-m-new-here-and-i-have-a-simple-qu ... 13343.html

[Fenris]

1. Feedest not yon troll.

2. Could be a nub, you know those domestic guys... all that time breathing fumes from their carrburrators and chewing on tobacco. All while seeking closer relations with their siblings. So be more polite.

3. ???

4. Profit

5. The hatchback in the above picture is an older model, '89-'93.5, the below picture is a newer model 94-98, but in 97 it got a facelift. The older model is called an s13, the newer is an s14, this is its chassis code.

6. Aren't numbered lists fun?

[need2speed94]

Carb's are for old timers, I'm not into that. Actually drive an LS1 Z/28, and we all know there's plenty of LS1 powered Nissan's out there

[slidestyle69]

Whats a 240sx? Is that like a gumball machine or something

[JDM240SXcoupe]

First.one is a 240sx fastback s13, second 240sx s14. Also theres a 240sx s13 coupe

[300ZXttZMAN]

Seriously? You couldnt find any of this out on your own? Have you ever heard of Google?

Read this
the-240sx-info-introduction-faq-thread- ... 83490.html
and then start reading from here
the-ultimate-sticky-read-before-posting ... 41882.html

and then refrain from starting more stupid threads and just post your questions in here..
the-i-m-new-here-and-i-have-a-simple-qu ... 13343.html

First.one is a 240sx fastback s13, second 240sx s14. Also theres a 240sx s13 coupe

No need to be a d!ck.

[300ZXttZMAN]

Welcome to the club newby!!!

Do you have any other questions right off the bat?

[need2speed94]

Welcome to the club newby!!!

Do you have any other questions right off the bat?

I'm sure I'll have some stupid questions for you guys later lol... I plan to do an LS1 or LQ4 swap, does the 5 speed in the 240's mate up to an LS1 or would I be better off stuffing a T56 into the 240?

[slidestyle69]

Of course it doesnt fit. You'll want to run a T56.

[need2speed94]

Of course it doesnt fit. You'll want to run a T56.

Figured... I just wanted to see if I could save money in any part of the swap I can, I've heard that an LS swap can cost as much as 10,000 or more

[slidestyle69]

I am actually in the middle of doing this swap conversion right now and using all the name brand parts and more less, depending on what you pay for the motor/trans will determine what the total swap will cost. Im capping the spending at 6500ish max, Im doing some things like the wiring myself. Which my car is a track car only with a switch panel so i only need basic eletrical systems and thats pretty easy to tie in.

[need2speed94]

I am actually in the middle of doing this swap conversion right now and using all the name brand parts and more less, depending on what you pay for the motor/trans will determine what the total swap will cost. Im capping the spending at 6500ish max, Im doing some things like the wiring myself. Which my car is a track car only with a switch panel so i only need basic eletrical systems and thats pretty easy to tie in.

Sweet man! You have a build thread going? What are you plans in terms of engine mods?

[slidestyle69]

Updates come slow so i decided to not make for now but have you ever heard of texas speed? Im going to use their MS3 cam and dual valve springs along with a GM double roller timing chain.

[need2speed94]

Updates come slow so i decided to not make for now but have you ever heard of texas speed? Im going to use their MS3 cam and dual valve springs along with a GM double roller timing chain.

I have an LS1 Z/28 hah Texas Speed is everyday vocab for me! I'm sure the MS3 will be a great cam, but I say just go with an MS4. They're both fairly large but the MS4 will give better top end. I also suggest hardened pushrods with a big cam like that, and if the funds are there, roller rockers as well. So it sounds like your going to keep it all motor since your getting a big cam like that correct?

[slidestyle69]

Ive looked into the ms4 but id really like the ms3 because it focuses on mid to high range. The tracks that ill be running on have areas that i should prolly s*** to 2nd but i want to keep 3rd as my main gear. I forgot about the pushrods, i plan on that and im also going to be upgrading the rod bolts. I heard that higher rpm applications need it but only in the earlier models but its still safe to do it to any year model, thoughts? . Ive got an 02 trans am motorset with a little under 90k on it.

[need2speed94]

Yes... I threw a rod on STOCK POWER on my 98 LS1 guess I got unlucky... the motor did have 110k miles and a ton of abuse though. For rod bolts I suggest ARP 2000 bolts, very popular for boosted LS's so it should hold up for N/A just fine. The rod bolts and the rods themselves are really the weak link of the LS1. I say you go with those bolts I suggested, and eventually pickup some forged rods. I've heard many great things about Scat H beam rods, never had any myself but I will pick them up A.S.A.P.

[420sxWETDREAMS]

Welcome

[slidestyle69]

Yes... I threw a rod on STOCK POWER on my 98 LS1 guess I got unlucky... the motor did have 110k miles and a ton of abuse though. For rod bolts I suggest ARP 2000 bolts, very popular for boosted LS's so it should hold up for N/A just fine. The rod bolts and the rods themselves are really the weak link of the LS1. I say you go with those bolts I suggested, and eventually pickup some forged rods. I've heard many great things about Scat H beam rods, never had any myself but I will pick them up A.S.A.P.

Are you in the process of rebuilding the one that blew up on you? I plan to push this motor as far as she'll go and when she lets go, id like to single turbo it. Its completly doable and i love me some boost, just like a crackhead loves crack but the realiability amd power advantages of an ls motor with bolt ons is a no brainer if your like me looking for a low maintance setup. Imagine the power your camaro has and then imagine that linear power in a 2500 pound car, its retarded.

[Fbomb19]

You learn through having one man. You learn how to buy one and what to look for once you been around the block. Just jump in. Cant learn the car if u dont have one. u can only read about them.

[need2speed94]

Are you in the process of rebuilding the one that blew up on you? I plan to push this motor as far as she'll go and when she lets go, id like to single turbo it. Its completly doable and i love me some boost, just like a crackhead loves crack but the realiability amd power advantages of an ls motor with bolt ons is a no brainer if your like me looking for a low maintance setup. Imagine the power your camaro has and then imagine that linear power in a 2500 pound car, its retarded.

Nope, never even tore down the old LS1... All I can tell from the exterior is shrapnel from the #6 rod tore through the bottom of the block. Not sure if the piston kept traveling and hit the head/valve and caused damage, but I always like to assume the worst. Right now it has an untouched 60k mile LS1 from a 00' Z/28. Well if you love boost then the ARP rod bolts are a must, as is forged bottom end (if you wana push her). If the LS1 ever poops out on you, pickup an LQ4. It's iron, has more cubes, bigger heads for lower compression, and the same parts that fit LS1's will generally fit the LQ4. Not to mention you could theoretically part out the undamaged parts from the LS1 and have enough money to pickup an LQ4 lol, they're Very cheap. BTW, if you do boost the LS1, drop the MS3 cam for one that's better for boost such as an LS9 cam.