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First, I am so happy I found this site. I love my Q45a and I got a super deal on the car! You know the story of the little ole lady who previously owned the car, well that's my story. She did however put 250,000 miles on the car. It drives like a champ! I do have a couple of problems I need help with. There is no cold air from the ac. It blows out reg temp. The compressor runs and the blower blows, but no cold air. The high end pressure is 255 and the low end is 55. I've been reading about expansion valves sticking or moisture in the system, but I'm clueless about the problem. There is plenty of freon. I also have a strong gas smell in the car itself, but not under the hood and not much of a smell outside the car. Someone did suggest the pull the panel from between the truck and back seats and check the fuel lines, but I haven't checked it yet. The last thing is, I have spent hours looking for manuals for the car and have come up empty. I have the owners manual but no mechanic or tech manual. I really need them because I'm too far from the closest dealership and the only mechanic who really knows Infiniti down here wants your first born($$$$$) to work on it. I have no rattles, hums, vibrations, tweaks, smoke, warning lights or other problems besides thoughs mentioned as of now. I now about the guides and chain problems with the 93, but everything seems to be ok. I know much maint. will need to be done because of the mileage, but the car drives like it was bought yesterday. Please help with manual info and anything you think I might need to know.

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redmanfx wrote:First, I am so happy I found this site. I love my Q45a and I got a super deal on the car! ...

... I now about the guides and chain problems with the 93, but everything seems to be ok.
Welcome to the board.You need to sit down over the next week and do a lot of reading here. Just because "everything seems OK" with regard to the timing guides, that does not mean it is OK. Unfortunately, 1993 factory service manuals seem to be very rare because of the limited run of that year's model. All the more reason to spend a couple of hours every night reading the previous posts. In addition to all posts by Q45tech, you should also read posts by Texasoil since you have an a model. It is truly remarkable if the suspension has been maintained to as new OEM standards.

You might start by running the VIN through Infiniti Customer Service to get a history of dealer maintenance on your vehicle.

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OOhhh yeah, I've been reading and researching so much I just can't seem to stop. I had the chance to drive the car I bought for 2 days before I bought it and I still haven't picked my jaw up yet. I about broke my neck when I opened it up a bit on these NC back roads. No doubt about the power and speed. Running the VIN number is a great idea. I will be taking care of this car. I thought the Lexus was my next buy, but I'm a changed man now. What a hidden Gem!! Texasoil? OK I will certainly read it all. Thanks for the info. I still need to check the AC and that gas smell out and will really examine the chains and guides next.

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Some popular searches for new owners:

chain guidesmafq45techt3injectorstranny cooler

I think there's a shop or mechanic in NJ that has experience doing chain guides. You might want to search for that.

On my 92 Q45, I had to replace the compressor, receiver-drier, fan switch, belt, pulley, swap out the clutch, then do a full flush and recharge with R12. I think it cost me just under a grand.There's also a wide variety (as Dennis said) of electronics and sensors on top of the basic components. Lets not forget the condensor (there's a used one now on eBay, but who knows if its any good.)

Wes showed me how to check the codes:http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....essor

I spent 4 grand on my 92 Q in a year (bought at 169k, sold at 183k), and its been the most worthwhile $4000 I've ever spent (despite what my Mom says).Before you have a heart attack, I should emphasize that I do absolutely none of the work on my own AND I usually go to the dealer. Most people get away with $1000-$2000 a year depending on what they do on their own and depending on vehicle condition. The step by step information on this forum will save you thousands of dollars, along with the guidance of the factory service manual.

Here's my maintenance log:http://q.spilky.com/irl.xls--It needs to be updated to reflect new information I got from a VIN check at a dealership in Oklahoma.

I strongly suggest getting remote start, giving the Q a chance to properly warm up every morning before work or every evening before the ride home. Doing so should extend its lifespan a bit. Of course, prior to doing that make sure all cooling related hoses, fluids, and components are new or in very good condition. You wouldnt want to walk out of your office on a hot summer day and find a dead, overheated Q.

And why did I sell mine, you ask? To buy another one but in better condition.

Check out the underside of the driver's seat. There's a fragrance unit in every 90-93 Q45 to maintain a like-new smell. Neat, isnt it?

Flush the transmission -- I strongly suggest Mobil 1 ATF. Shifting seems to be crisper and more subtle with M1, and its more capable of withstanding high operating temperatures. Your dealer or a shop might recommend against it, since Nissan documentation calls for a standard fluid, but trust me on this one. Also, drop the pan and change the transmission filter.And while youre at it, add a transmission cooler. The part is $40, and labor is only an hour. A popular cause of Q45 transmission failure is simply overheating.

The rule of thumb with the Q (and probably anything short of a unicycle) is that the more you spend to maintain, the less you spend to "fix"

Enjoy. :)

-Jesda

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Congrats on the new car, the 1st gen's are really sharp cars.

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Jesda, thanks for the info and the AC code thread. I noticed on your your maint. spread sheet you picked up a used ac compressor for $91.00 or so. Where did you find that? I'm curious because I will need parts when I start replacing these older parts and would like to find the best place to order from. If really good used parts can be found that would be great. Once in a while that's all you need, not all the time, but once in a while. Is it really wise to buy used parts for these first gen cars?

Is http://www.everythingnissan.com/ a good place for new parts? Anyone know? Also, a remote start was mentioned and that was something I was considering anyway. I haven't seen anything on the remote start yet, so do you know where I can research them? I got the car for a great price, well under the value, so if I can really work on her, she can bring great re-sale value so I can get another newer model. like I sadi earlier I'm hooked. The suspension was just checked and it's fine. The oil is clear and clean as well. I would be doing most of the work so expenses should be minimal there. What I can't do, a friend is a master mechanic and would be willing to help.

If kept in good condition and fluids changed and kept up with, how many miles is too many with the 93 Q45a?

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VERY GOOD!

Check it out. We'll take care of you.:D

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I took a risk with the used compressor. The clutch on it was bad so I swapped it out with my existing one (had to take it somewhere to have that done). But yeah, its been working fine for almost a year now. The junkyard removed it and originally wanted $120, but my friend haggled them down over the damaged clutch. It came out of a wrecked 91.

Electronics are usually safe as used items. My fuel control module was free from a junkyard that didnt know what it was. If I hadnt driven for so long on a worn/damaged fuel pump in the first place, I wouldnt have had to replace the control module, which can become a very expensive item depending on where you acquire it.You do not, however, want to purchase a used fuel pump. I paid about $320 with tax for my pump from a local dealer.

I am told that there are three belt pulleys that can seize up over time. $100 for all three, shouldnt be too hard to replace. The first one that went out on me was connected to the power steering and water pump, which left me stranded. Then some time this year the AC compressor belt pulley (am I using the right name for it?) seized up. Which left me without air conditioning.Just replace the pulleys all at once along with the belts and save yourself the trouble later on.

I dont think there's such a thing as too many miles, with proper maintenance. Dennis is over 250k, theres others around 200k, and I'm buying one with 199k. I read somewhere on the forum that there was one with 449k, still on the road and driven daily.

So in summary, three things have left me stranded in my year of ownership:Power steering/water pump pulleyFuel pump, which lead toFuel control module

Those are maintenance items that I neglected and should have checked. Otherwise I've taken my old Q across the country multiple times. It ROCKS.

-Jesda

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ps. I paid $2,800 for a my Q. $600 of that was with a trade in car, so actually 2,200 in cash. It's Forest Green (I think Jesda had one). I believe that was a good deal and hard for anyone to pass up... Real hard. What's the actual difference between a 93 Q45a and a 93 Q45? Since I can't find any manuals it's hard to see all the differences.

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Dang Jesda, your on a roll!!!

Different between Q45a and Q45 is the active suspension.....

Does the active suspension still work... IE can you control the height of the car from the little switch on the center console... If not then you have had it converted...

ITs possible your timing guides may not need replaced... What is the MFG date of your Q45, as seen on the sticker in the driver side door frame....

WE have many sponsors for parts, but I am sold on Joe. I always ask for him and he puts up with my crap all the time!!! Tell him your a friend of Wes and he'll be sure to take off 35% easy!! :D :D Just kidding Joe!

Really if your running at 250k right now, you can expect another 50k before you start seeing anything major happening, maybe 100k, its kind of a crap shoot....

Man, I would really love to see this car... YOu need to come to a meet, wanna drive up to Indy!!! Id love to see how well it was taken care of...

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I'll check the Mnfctr date, sure hope it wasn't finished on a Friday. The car is at my friends where we are starting to work on it.

Some *** has ripped the antenna completely off already. I have to add that to my to do list. At least they didn't bust the window and get the new CD player! The suspension seems to be fine, but everyone is making me worry. As if it shouldn't be or I'm lucky that it is ok. Bad karma. I like to think it's a blessing. Apparently it has been worked on before and whoever did the work get cudo's from me.

I'm checking the vin through a dealership 120 miles away to see what's been done. Who is JOE? I don't know everyone on the board quite yet, so please excuse the ignorance.

I have just heard some popping in the Speakers Which I've read was a common problem. Add that to the list.

I haven't had any luck with the AC though. We'll fix it because summer here at the Beach can get hot and humid!!

Don't think I'll be going to Indy anytime soon. Maybe a meet later would work as I have been completely taken by the Q. Thanks for all the help.

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We'll be having plenty of meets this summer, in Kentucky, Tenessee and Indiana.... I want to see you at least at one!!!! Check out our meets forum every so often!!!!

Joe is our OEM parts guru.... Call 188-216-5328 and ask for Joe... Tell him your a NICO member and he'll get you fixed up....

For all those concerns you mentioned search this forum and the INFINITI ONLINE MECHANIC.... Sit down this week with a pastrami sandwich (the NICO preferred post reading food) and all will be revealed.. You need to go through and read all the old posts, but take note of the things that you are concerned about now. Reading all old posts will help you find stuff later, and make you realize how special this place really is....

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Front or rear speakers? I bet the Bose amplifiers (attached to each speaker) are shot. The rears are covered under a recall. You might want to do a search for ways people have gotten the fronts fixed. Some have had them replaced for free. I bought mine at a junkyard, one pulled from a Maxima and one pulled from a Mazda Millenia (its a fairly universal part).

Some go through Bose. Some go through Clarion. Some use the dealership.

You will want to set aside an hour while searching for information on chain guides. You will learn TONS. There's also pictures on the forum of broken guides and guide pieces in the motor posted throughout various threads. To be honest, there really is no easy way to determine for sure if your guides were done.

Have the dealer where the Q was serviced fax you the service history based on the VIN. See if the motor was replaced or had any major work done. It seems the most common time for guide failures to occur is around 120k. But my former Q was sold with 183k on original guides.

I dont know squat about active suspension. Pun intended. :)

-Jesda

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It's the back speakers and beside the popping they were recalled as a fire hazard as well from what I read. No big deal there I'll take care of that. Fronts are fine. I have learned a ton already and have spent this morning and this evening here, just reading everything. Have found heaps of info on guide failures and the like. Fuel pump issues etc.. What to look out for, what to pay attention to. Besides the car itself makes it all worthwhile.

To be honset, I'm like a kid in a candy store right now. This forum is the greatest thing for me. I can't say enough.

Still cant figure out how the antenna was ripped out since it sits down in the body.

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Absolutely great info guys. With work that's going to be done this weekend on the transmission, looking it over, a good flush and new cooler(as suggested) I am trying to find info on heat. Haven't seen alot on heat damage, but understand the threat is there. Not having driven this car and only my second 8 I'm all ears. My '79 Firebird didn't give me any problems, but I intend to fully check my new Q out and don't want to be whinning later about how I should have known.

Anybody have heat issues?

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them's 'ma boys!

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elwesso wrote:We'll be having plenty of meets this summer, in Kentucky, Tenessee and Indiana....


Yeah, whatever you do, DON"T have one in Florida...that dangling participle in the Southeast region, cause there's no Infiniti's there.

:rolleyes

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HeavyDuty wrote:Yeah, whatever you do, DON"T have one in Florida...that dangling participle in the Southeast region, cause there's no Infiniti's there.

:rolleyes
Except the ones on Ebay? :rolleyes

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I second Heavy's comments....definetly very few 1st gen Q's down here. half the people have never even heard of a Q45 down here...the I35, yes, but Q45, noway.

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Sorry, I just re-read what I last posted and I said I haven't driven my new Q, but what I meant I haven't driven it enough to notice any overheating issues. My first long trip will be to the dealer 130 miles away. Need to go there just because I have a first gen and I guess, the principle of it. Like a right of passage or something. Anyway let me know of any overheating issues if you personally have any. thanks.

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Alright! We just got finished getting all my paperwork for the completion of the sale and I find out I have a 92 Q45a and not a 93. Manufacture date is 6/92 and the title says 92 as well.

We also got rid of that nasty gas smell in the cab by blowing out all the release valves and checking the lines all the way to the injectors. Someone told me to check the lines running to the tank by checking between the back trunk panel and the back seat, but those lines are all steel and were fine. Apparently the gas vapors expand with the tank in hotter weather and that's when that gas smell got really bad so we just worked on that and walla, Fixed. Took all of an hour to do.

The Ac seems to be working now to. I left it on Economy during all my drives and it seems to have fixed itself. I hope it stays that way because it hasn't been so hot that we can truely see. It is blowing out cold air at a setting of 65.

Pics will come as soon as I can get a digital camera or picture phone(not very high on my priority list however).

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excellent and that is interesting about your car being a 92 vs. 93. My car has a build date of 6/94, yet it is labeled as a 1995 model year. I am now wondering if I have one of the very first 1995 Q45T's built for the 95 model year. Does anybody know if there is a way to check this? Its not really all that important, but it would be a cool piece of gossip to tell someone that this is the first 95 Q45T model. I have got to be really close if you have the same build month as I do, but yours is still in that same year while mine got bumped to the next year.

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Yeah, I found that a bit odd myself. I gues the dealer would no for sure so when the vin number gets checked, that should tell you all you need to know, at least I would think so.

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I dont know, its all messed up... The 94s started in late 93, ending in June or so (my 94 is made in april), and the 95 starting right then.....

So id say I have one of the last 94s... :D You probably have about the first 95!!!! Our cars are like sisters, and still a model year apart!!!

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rsiwicki- found this for you to make sure what year your car really is. It's from 8/03.Well, i found this, thought it was pretty interesting, especially if you don't want to pay to get one of those decoders. I found this on a site, but it was sheer luck i found it, and i figured it would make a good sticky/resource for our boards.

Decoding a VIN.

heres an example VIN:JNKNG01C8ST000001

- The first 3 letters are the manufacturer. JNK - Japan - InfinitiJNR - Something else Japanese

- The fourth letter is the Engine Type.A - VG30D (J30) VK45DE (M45)B - KA24DE; SR20DEC - SR20DE (G20), VQ35DE (I35/G35), VQ30DE (I30)D - KA24DE; QG18DE, VQ35DEE - VE30DE; GA16DE F - KA24EH - VG30E (M30)M - KA24DE; VG33ERN - VH45DE (1990-1996 Q45) R - VG30DE (QX4)S - KA24E T - VG33E

- The 5th-6th characters are the Vehicle Line.G0 - 90-96 Q45 Y3 - 97-01 Q45F0 - 02-current Q45Y2 - J30 R0 - QX4V5 - G35 Coupe/SedanA3 - 00-01 I30 / 02-current I35A2 - 96-99 I30F1 - M30 Y4 - 03-current M45P0 - 91-96 G20 P1 - 99-02 G20

- The 7th character is the body type.1 - 4-door sedan (J30, Q45, G20, M45, I30)4 - 2-door coupe (M30, G35)6 - 2-door convertible (M30)

- The 8th character stands for miscellaneous information.A - Air BagsC - Air BagsD - Driver & Front Passsenger Air Bags.E - Full SRS Air Bag SystemP - Passive Restraint SystemY - 4 Wheel Drive

- The 9th character is a check digit, which is found using a complex mathematical complex.

- The 10th character is the Model Year.L - 1990M - 1991N - 1992P - 1993R - 1994S - 1995T - 1996V - 1997W - 1998X - 1999Y - 20001 - 20012 - 20023 - 20034 - 20045 - 2005and so on.

- The 11th character is the plant code.T - Tochigi (J30, 90-93 Q45) / Oppama (M30, G20)M - Tochigi (94-96 Q45, 94-00 G35, J30, M45, I30, and some more i think.)W - Kyushyu

- The rest is the serial number.

Also, this is what engine names mean.

example: VQ30DE

The first one or two letters are for naming. (VQ, VH, VG, etc.)

The number is the displacement in Liters. (30, 45, etc.)

The next letter is the valve train. D= DOHCIf there isnt a letter before the next set, its SOHCV = VVL + DOHC

The next, and in most cases, final, is the fuel delivery type. E - Multiport Fuel InjectionI - Throttle Body Fuel InjectionD - Direct Injection

The final letter is used for forced induction.T - Single TurboTT - Twin TurboTR - Oversized TurboTTR - Oversized Twin TurboR - Supercharger

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thanks for the info....I always wondered what all those letters and number really meant...this is my vin#JNKNG01D1SM300451 so I definetly got a 95 model...man if it was a 94 model according to this decoding I don't know what I would do as I would have to get a whole new title and figure out who F'd up as when I bought it, it came with a 95 title. I guess all is good. Maybe I have #451 off the line for the new model year since the last 5 numbers are 00451 and if this #451 is for all Q models then I might just be the first 95 Q45T model for that year as I can't imagine them producing 451 "t" models already in June of that year. Thanks for the info. I know the inservice date of my car was the first week of November 1994.

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:D :D Got the transmission out of the way! Checked it good added a cooler and gave it an enima! I have been blessed so far with my ride because the transmission was in excellent shape and could have done without my help, but how would I know that? All the lines were in ok shape, but not great--- they are now though. Only a tiny few shavings and I mean 4 or 5 and that's it.

Started at about 9am and went to mid-late afternoon just taking my time and really checking everything out. 250K will do that to you, especially if no dealer will look at it. Got a nice battle wound and took a good atf bath. I'm really not so patient, but surprised myself with just going after it (I hate transmission work!!) without taking a ton of breaks and I'm with the AZhitman with the Corona!! :D :D

I was soooo happy to be done. I used Mobile 1, so I hope what I've read here is good stuff. The cooler wasn't as hard and I thought it would be. I don't have a service manual so everything was pulled from this forum, so thanks for the info.

Nothing like a newbie screwing things up. I'm trying not to be a nob or what ever it is you gurus call it. Later.

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Nice to see a high mileage Q, in service...

How's the active suspension doing??? Have you done any diag on it yet... does it need recharge, is the ride hard?

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The active suspension still works well and the high and normal height can still be controlled by the switch on the center consol. The oil hydrolics were just purged and refilled. I believe they became air filled and locked, that's why the previous owner decided she couldn't handle the car any longer. Fine now though.

Now, I think the suspension is a little hard and not what I initially thought it might be. I attributed that to the high speed handling, but without having been in any other Q I have nothing to really compare it to. You can feel the bumps in the road. Very level ride through the turns.

No diag yet. Doing one thing at a time with limited funds.

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You should have heavenly ride, with properly charged actuators.. I feel your pain on the Q money draining...

You probably could use a recharge of the actuators.. texasoil can take care of that for you.. That should be all you need, to get the divine ride of the active suspension back :)


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