NEW 370Z HAS ARRIVED

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From the front it is beautiful, from the side it is mediorcre in design, and form the rear it is ambiguous. I think I will stick with the 350Z. Has more sex appeal than the 370Z. If i can't make love to a car emotionally and physically, then i don't want to drive it.





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Barry626 wrote:Don't be jealous...Not very becoming
am i missin something here???



maybe i can help...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jealous

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EOrdonez3229 wrote:
I'm 6'2", but I'm also 215lbs. I'm a big guy. I felt like my arms and shoulder were tight, and my back is wide so I was SNUG in that seat, to say the least lol But, I was wearing a 3/4 length wool coat when I got in, so that cut back on space.

I hate that I felt uncomfortable. When I go to the auto show I'll hop in with no coat/jacket and see if I fit more comfortably. I'm thinking I should get a manual, bc I hear it's easy to learn on it. I only drove stick once, so . . . .
as much as you may love the 370z, i wouldnt reccomend it if you felt uncomfortable, jacket or not. not whn your talking about a car, and one with a $30,000+ tag.i do reccomend a manual though. i cant tell you the last time i drove stick. All my cars i have owned have been auto, but i would be getting the 6speed in this car. With the syncrorev-match on the new Z, it will be easier to pick up on it. not to mention the fun of a manual with a car like this.

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Altima_Coupe wrote:. With the syncrorev-match on the new Z, it will be easier to pick up on it. not to mention the fun of a manual with a car like this.
the synchro rev match is only used when downshifting the car in a heel toe situation, like on the track. it will have no bearing in helping the driver engage the clutch or change gears

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I just got back from test driving the 370Z coupe. I have to be honest it is not that noticeably faster to 60 than my 350Z Grand Touring. The ride to me is still the same. The shifter is a bit tighter I could fell the stiffness in it. Overall the 200lbs that the sales guy told me was lighter than mine was not really noticeable. Same old seats gauge cluster same on right and felt like a little more headroom.

Sales guy told me as I was looking at the GTR they had in the showroom that the 2010 model GTR wont have that launch button and the dealership where I was at said that if it was service by them with the regular maintenance they would warranty the powertrain for life. WOW I want to see them replace that $20k transmission when I destroy it.

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yeah smoke, im note really sure what the weight dif is, but with pretty much identical torque, i cant say im surprised... you getta take it through some turns?

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ldstang50 wrote:
the synchro rev match is only used when downshifting the car in a heel toe situation, like on the track. it will have no bearing in helping the driver engage the clutch or change gears
no. it is also used during upshifting:

Originally Posted by Quick Reference Guide

The SynchroRev™ Match Mode (S-MODE) automatically adjusts the engine speed by controlling the engine throttle. This helps provide accurate engine speed control that will help achieve smooth gear shifting and reduces shift shock on clutch engagement.

WHEN DOWNSHIFTING-The engine speed is automatically increased to the target engine speed before the clutch is engaged.

WHEN UPSHIFTING-The engine speed is automatically kept during and after the engine speed lowers to the target engine speed.DEACTIVATING THE S-MODE SYSTEM-To deactivate, push and hold the S-MODE switch formore than 1 second. The S-MODE indicator willturn off.

-To reactivate, Push the S-MODE switch .The S-MODE indicator on the instrument cluster will show S.

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Altima_Coupe wrote:
as much as you may love the 370z, i wouldnt reccomend it if you felt uncomfortable, jacket or not. not whn your talking about a car, and one with a $30,000+ tag.i do reccomend a manual though. i cant tell you the last time i drove stick. All my cars i have owned have been auto, but i would be getting the 6speed in this car. With the syncrorev-match on the new Z, it will be easier to pick up on it. not to mention the fun of a manual with a car like this.
I just came home from test driving a G37 with the Sport Package - definitely would be a better choice for me. I had more room and felt more comfortable. This car comes with manual tranmission that has Downshift Rev Match (same as 370) but I think I'll still need an automatic. The traffic here in Ocean County is insane since we are over populated, and being stuck every single day commuting to and from work would be a pain in the butt with the manual - bumper to bumper to bumper to bumper lol

It's a bit more, but I think it also suits me and my lifestyle more. I always have to drive executives from work, and I think the G Coupe is a better choice with comparable performance and overall feel. The salesman really let me push the car on Route 18 and also told me that I nearly made him crap himself in the passenger seat.

It is a little annoying though when you go to test drive a car and they don't know all the answers to your questions. They ought to be prepared for enthusiast drivers to enter their sales floor. The guy had to take out a cheat sheet 4 times to give me answers, and a few times he didn't even have the answer.

With the G Coupe, there are so many packages that it's insane. I'd ask him about auto leveling headlights, distance control w/ the CC, wood trim interior, 4-wheel active steer - "well you get this with this package, this with that package" Like, why can't all this crap come in ONE tech package? Why bother having two different tech packages?

Regardless, I'll more than likely go with the G37x with Sport Package and Advanced Tech. I still have to test the M3 and attend the Philly Auto Show before making my final decision.

Dark Grey, Black, or Red Exterior? Any opinions?

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Yeah I ran it down a winding road and it handles just like mine there really is nothing exceptionally different about it besides that so said added hp but tourque feels relatively the same to me. I opened it up pretty good. IMO they are just really advertising the hp and synchr shifter, but it is the same stuff different skin.

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Also test driving the M3 are we? If you have that much cash on hand to spend... take the german way out and get the M3. Much better interior, V8 with 414 HP (420 some say) and a revlimit of 8000 rpm!

If money's tight, stay with the G.

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spitalul2bad wrote:Also test driving the M3 are we? If you have that much cash on hand to spend... take the german way out and get the M3. Much better interior, V8 with 414 HP (420 some say) and a revlimit of 8000 rpm!

If money's tight, stay with the G.
Where did you even read that I said I'm test driving the M3? I couldn't find it in this thread - but I posted it in another 370 thread.

Weird . . . lol

I'd rather stay in the Nissan/Infiniti family though. There aren't any BMW dealerships near my home in NJ, but one like 15 mins away from my PA home. So, it's not convenient enough for me. If you need service though and are within a 50 mile radius of a dealership, they will come get your car and bring you a loaner at the same time. At least that's what they did when I had my 645 as my car to use in PA. Who knows?

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Everything you have said smoke, has been my expectations. Its the same with a little less weight and a little more power..... I wanna run one, but also want to drive one. Maybe when the weather clears in like 60-90 days, mine is in the garage for awhile with the weather we are supposed to and have gotten.

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Yeah mezz I have to be honest I was not as impressed with the 370Z because of the hype they put out about it but to me it isnt all that. Now I realize the engine only had a hand full of miles on and not properly "broke in" as the sales guy said but it really did not feel much superior to mine, or at least not enough to trade in and buy one. But that GTR hmmph, I cant bring myself to spend $96k on a Nissan. Way overpriced.

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^^^ I agree. I test drove the 370Z yesterday and I didn't feel any difference. Granted, I wasn't on a track but I got on it pretty hard as I was getting on the highway and my 350Z feels like it accelerates just as fast. Considering that I like the 350Z body style so much more, I won't be buying a 370Z. The dealership near me is asking $101K for their GTR. Crazy.

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I love the interior

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i'm sorry for being negative here. but seems like most of u guys are being unfair to the new 370z.

1) 350z 0-60 in 5.3-5.5sec (if i'm not mistaken). 370z 0-60 in 4.9-5.1 sec, and the record is based on testing in track. would that be real significant on a normal road from a test drive for that 0.3-0.5 sec diff?

2) many of the new features that the 370z has are mainly focus on cornering performance, like the rev syn transmission (sub of heel-n-toe), lighter wheels, shorter wheelbase, etc. it's not just about the acceleration on the straight line.

3) the new interior design has great improvement over the old one, the new navi, push button start (sorry, but i have to say the old keys are real ugly), dual climate, new leather seats, etc.

4) as one of u mentioned, the car hasn't broken in yet.

just sharing what my thoughts are. hope i didn't offense anyone.
BlackSmoke wrote: But that GTR hmmph, I cant bring myself to spend $96k on a Nissan. Way overpriced.
yes, it might be a Nissan, but it is a 96k nissan that can beat a 150k Audi R8, and a 200k Porsche 911 on track (base on the race by best motoring).in my perspective, it worth the money for the performance.

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galanw wrote:i'm sorry for being negative here. but seems like most of u guys are being unfair to the new 370z.

1) 350z 0-60 in 5.3-5.5sec (if i'm not mistaken). 370z 0-60 in 4.9-5.1 sec, and the record is based on testing in track. would that be real significant on a normal road from a test drive for that 0.3-0.5 sec diff?

2) many of the new features that the 370z has are mainly focus on cornering performance, like the rev syn transmission (sub of heel-n-toe), lighter wheels, shorter wheelbase, etc. it's not just about the acceleration on the straight line.

3) the new interior design has great improvement over the old one, the new navi, push button start (sorry, but i have to say the old keys are real ugly), dual climate, new leather seats, etc.

4) as one of u mentioned, the car hasn't broken in yet.
1. You should go test drive before running a bunch of stats. I KNOW that car does not do 4.9, prob not 5.0 either and if it does 5.1 then I dont think 2/10ths of a sec is worth the hype.

2.If you have read the thread I stated that I took it down a winding road. You must have missed when I said it did not feel much different than mine.

3. Having a "Push Button" to start does not make it a better sports car by any means. Only large gauge to the left is different the rest is basically the same and no one who tracks or runs there car hard is really concerned with the function of the navi.

4. The torque feels the same under the foot so I wonder exactly when that break in period happens how much it will help.

just sharing what my real world experience. hope i didn't offense anyone.

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The styling of the 370Z is a s t r e t c h

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Eh, I still don't really know how I feel about this car. I mean, I don't currently drive a 350, but my father does. So, if I were ot purchase one instead of the G37 Coupe S, I might as well get the 370. I have to go there with my dad and let him test drive one at the same time and see what his thoughts are.

He thinks it looks nice, but says that even the numbers don't impress him, unless he really notices the increases during the road test. We'll see.

For me - I think the G37 is more suitable, especially since I'm so big and the 370 is a squeeze.

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galanw wrote:
yes, it might be a Nissan, but it is a 96k nissan that can beat a 150k Audi R8, and a 200k Porsche 911 on track (base on the race by best motoring).in my perspective, it worth the money for the performance.
heh. I'd take a 6spd 370z over a R35 anyday. Sure it can rail on alot of cars twice its price, but it takes no skill at all to drive. It's a toy, if anybody can drive it its a toy. i like shifting and hitting a clutch, not pushing in a few buttons and putting it in race transmission mode like im making some sort of awesome cappuccino.

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BlackSmoke wrote:
1. You should go test drive before running a bunch of stats. I KNOW that car does not do 4.9, prob not 5.0 either and if it does 5.1 then I dont think 2/10ths of a sec is worth the hype.

2.If you have read the thread I stated that I took it down a winding road. You must have missed when I said it did not feel much different than mine.

3. Having a "Push Button" to start does not make it a better sports car by any means. Only large gauge to the left is different the rest is basically the same and no one who tracks or runs there car hard is really concerned with the function of the navi.

4. The torque feels the same under the foot so I wonder exactly when that break in period happens how much it will help.

just sharing what my real world experience. hope i didn't offense anyone.
1) running the stats means i've done research before commenting the car that i'm planning to buy, and i think this is how a person should do before making any kind of purchasing.the stats were released by various magazines which they hired professional to test drive it. if you for sure that u know it won't run 0-60 in 4.9sec, maybe you can google it before u made such comments, coz that numbers was recorded by various sources. yes, i'll definitely go test drive it and compare to the 350z which my friend owns.

2) i did read through this thread before responding, and thanks for reminding me that you test drove on a winding road. however, it doesn't mean the winding road would have the same condition (in order word same fun) as on the track. considering there are traffic, road condition, weather,etc. would be diff.

3) yes, having a push button doesn't mean it's a better car. all i meant was the car as a "whole package" did have big improvement over the old one (don't get me wrong, i like the old Z as well, and always wanted one). and ppl running/tracking their cars hard do find the navi comes in handy once in awhile. that's the reason why Ferrari or Lambo install those in their hardcore cars.

4) if you could notice the torque feels the same, btw that small significant changes. then you should be able to notice the diff in engine/brake/transmission responsiveness btw a new car and a broken-in car. and for sure most ppl would agree a broken-in car has better in terms of performance of the car.

afterall, i was just sharing my thoughts on the new Z from the other side of the fence. so, let's be friends and enjoy being in this community

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Dasoupdude wrote:
heh. I'd take a 6spd 370z over a R35 anyday. Sure it can rail on alot of cars twice its price, but it takes no skill at all to drive. It's a toy, if anybody can drive it its a toy. i like shifting and hitting a clutch, not pushing in a few buttons and putting it in race transmission mode like im making some sort of awesome cappuccino.
i agree with you, yes R35 is easy to drive w/ its awd system, and yes shifting and hitting a clutch would be more fun.but if you take other competitors of the r35, such as the r8, porsche 911 awd version, lambo gallardo awd version....they are all easy to drive with paddle shifters and many other buttons....

all i'm pointing out is, nissan did a brilliant job on making this car out in a much cheaper price, but with a world class race car's performance.

not to mention, the paddle shifters were originated from Formula 1 race cars.

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galanw wrote:
i agree with you, yes R35 is easy to drive w/ its awd system, and yes shifting and hitting a clutch would be more fun.but if you take other competitors of the r35, such as the r8, porsche 911 awd version, lambo gallardo awd version....they are all easy to drive with paddle shifters and many other buttons....
Future has given all those once real worthy car mkers into a bunch of gizmo filled vehicles,the skill coming from driving those cars doesn't even come from the driver anymore but the car itself. A real sports car should be able to kill you, instead of having Johnny Wannaberacer being watched by some nanny road monitoring hoo hah.

mMm.


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