New 2009 Rogue S for $20,890 with tags,tax,fees n Miami,FL Is this a good price?

[hfox659]

Wife wants a rogue she found a 2009 Rogue S, she went and bought it and I know nothing about this SUV she got it for $20,890 including all the fees, and 2.9% for 60 months is this good. Help me out

[RogueGuy45]

I'm pretty sure that's a good price. You could check Carsoup.com or cars.com and just input the vehicle into the search and check the prices at other dealers.

Nissan traditionally does not negotiate much on the sticker prices of their cars. I leased my Rogue SL AWD and they actually did negotiate that with me. I got them to drop the monthly lease fee by $30.00 and they gave me 3000 extra miles a year over the normal 12,000. They also gave me a $500.00 coupon to help pay off milage overages if needed at the end of the lease.

[hfox659]

Thanks for the reply, I just wasn't sure about the price. The wife loves the car. I just didn't have time to do the research and price check on it. I can't return it now, it's a great little suv has good power and speed. If anyone has bought a Rogue S. Let me know if this was a good deal.

What are the best options to put on a Rogue S.

[hfox659]

WHat's the average cost of a rogue S and SL before tax tags and fees?

[Elton Noway]

Wife wants a rogue she found a 2009 Rogue S, she went and bought it and I know nothing about this SUV she got it for $20,890 including all the fees, and 2.9% for 60 months is this good. Help me out

MSRP for a base 2009 base model Rogue S is $20,220. Start adding any options and the price goes up... then add on taxes, title fees, registration fees, destination fees etc... and the total goes up even more. So, if you add the fees and any option values to $20,220... any dollar amount over $20,890 would be close to her negotiated savings.

Or you could calculate it in reverse. Take your bill of sale and starting with $20,890 ... subtract out the taxes, registration fees, destination fees etc etc. If the car has no options, and after you subtract out all the state and local government fees.., if the total is below the $20,220 MSRP base price she did okay. If the car has some options... she did even better

Or... head over to this Edmunds link, and plug in any options that came with the car to determine its true market value.

http://www.edmunds.com/nissan/....html

[hfox659]

i/m sure this is the MSRP but i don't know when i've bought a car or suv at there MSRP?

[Elton Noway]

i/m sure this is the MSRP but i don't know when i've bought a car or suv at their MSRP?

It's rare... but there are cases when people do pay MSRP.

Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price

MSRP is the price listed on the BIG window sticker (applied at the factory by the Manufacturer). The MSRP total dollar amount is the total of the "Retail Base Price" PLUS all the Options included by the "Manufacturer" (not the dealership).

Example: Retail Base Price $20,220.00Splash Guards $125.00Floor Mats $110.00 Destination Charge $650.00Total $21,105.00 (Total MSRP)** This total does not include any dealership installed options or accessories (e.g., rear bumper protector, Chrome Grill Appliqué), nor does it include , taxes, license fees etc.

That said, unless the car is Brand New, at the "very beginning" of the model year and/or in "high demand" (example the 2009 Toyota Prius when gas was $5 a gallon)... no one should ever pay MSRP. That's why the S in MSRP stands for "suggested". Granted, in some cases... (like the Prius and some other hot selling cars thru the years) people will actually pay "more than MSRP" when the vehicle is in high demand and short supply. (I even did it once, paying $810 over MSRP to get a limited production car )

The reason no one should pay MSRP is because it includes a generous profit (gratuity) for the dealership. I'm "not" saying a dealership shouldn't make a profit on every sale... they should! If they didn't they would go out of business. However, there is a difference between giving the dealer a HUGE profit that takes advantage of the buyer and lets them live in luxury... and giving the dealer a comfortable profit that allows them make a living but is also fair to the buyer.

Bottom line: A vehicle has three prices. 1) What the Manufacturer "suggests" you pay (MSRP) - 2) What the dealership actually paid for the car (dealer cost) . - 3) What you end up paying for the car. That's why buying a car can be such a painful experience... because you "usually" find yourself negotiating a price somewhere between dealer cost and MSRP. Obviously... there are exceptions to every rule. For example, as it gets closer to the end of a model year, dealerships will get incentives from the manufacturer which actually allows the dealer to sell cars "below cost", just to get last years model off the lot and make room for the new model year cars that are arriving.

For those who haven't purchased yet: Exceptions aside... the 'norm"... you should plan on paying a price below MSRP but at a price above dealer cost you can live with.

A quick trick to take some pain out of the negotiation process (and reach the bottom line quicker)... Try this. Take 9 to 10% off the MSRP and tell the dealer that's your offer, take it or leave it, "out the door", NO Additional cost, the price you want to pay "after" all taxes, registration and state fees, etc. In other words the bottom line price, the amount you will write the check for. If you drive it off the lot for that... you got a pretty good deal. If they won't sell it for that... leave... walk away! Find another dealer who will... they're out there.

NOTE: The 9-10% off trick wouldn't apply to hot cars in high demand or any of "last years" model still on the lot which should be selling at or below dealer cost.
Modified by Elton Noway at 10:49 AM 6/27/2009

[Leo2005]

It's rare... but there are cases when people do pay MSRP.

I paid in full for my last car which was scion tc. I don't know why but dealer didn't want to negotiate and I just bought it from him and paid in full instead of going to a different dealership. I don't remember the exact price but it was something like $15.5k + tax. When I bought the rogue the dealer dropped the price for $1000 + free lifetime oil changes, wipers, fluids.

[Elton Noway]

I paid in full for my last car which was scion tc. I don't know why but dealer didn't want to negotiate and I just bought it from him and paid in full instead of going to a different dealership. I don't remember the exact price but it was something like $15.5k + tax.

Yep! Before I purchased the Rogue I was looking at the Subaru Forester. After Consumer Reports named it their top pick for small SUV's (knocking the Rav4 out of the #1 position) Subaru dealers couldn't keep them on the lot. When I was looking the Subaru dealer was tacking on another $1150 "over" MSRP! (The dealer sticker said EDM $1,150) It stood for Extra Dealer Markup! Honda has done the same thing quite a few times over the years. They can get away with it because there will always be someone willing to pay the price. Like I said in my earlier post... I even did it myself once.

[tower12]

Hey hfox659,

I think that price is pretty good. I just bought a S model Rogue for $19654 off the lot. Of course, we took the cash rebate of $1250 that Nissan has now. So, if you add $1250 to the price I paid here in Atlanta, I will be near your pricing.

I negotiated with Honda (CRV); Subaru (Forrester); and Toyota(RAV4) as well. At the end of the day, they are all great cars but the Nissan was able to offer the best price. We visited multiple dealers and made numerous offers. At the end, this one particular Nissan dealer was able to offer the best price at $19,654 off the lot including tax and other junk fees. We live in a 6% tax zone and this was for a base S model.

Hopefully this answers your question.