New 2005 M45!!!!!

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New 2005 M45!!!!!

Postby Jason B » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

How about some "real world" pics:







This will be the new M45 in about a year away.


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Hopefully, not quite yet

Postby maxnix » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

Hopefully some of the stainless steel/chrome strips will be deleted or toned down. The heavy chrome strips above and below the grill and rear license plate holder and under the headlights are uncalled for. The flare on the under window chrome strip at the upkick behind the C window is too thick, and could this window be reshaped to look like a G50 and not a Teana? The bright stips on top and around the lower valance are overdone or unecessary also.

I think the wheel openings need to be reradiused also as the current radii are set too low relative to the wheel and are too large, resulting in an unattractive flare in the opening fore and aft of the wheels.

Boy, I can almost taste that Porfidio Cactus, AZhitman and Q45blue!

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Postby AZhitman » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

Shut up Brian.

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Postby rydwhite » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

Hitman, I thought you said that this wasn't the new M45 in another thread here. This is the same car as that right?

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Postby AZhitman » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

See my above comment.

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Postby G3tMyDrift » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

whats the specs on the car?

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Postby jmatas » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

From autoweek.com...Of Nissan’s six-concept barrage in Tokyo, the car to watch is the Fuga (pictured above). From the car’s Infiniti-like grille to its luxury lines, Fuga signals Nissan’s plans for the future of its luxury division as both sportier and roomier. Fuga is built on the same platform as the 350Z and G35, with a tall body structure that provides easy entry and exit and ample headroom and legroom, even for rear-seat passengers. At the same time, the car’s low center of gravity works to maintain a sporty driving character.

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Re: Hopefully, not quite yet

Postby IvoryJ30t » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

maxnix wrote:Hopefully some of the stainless steel/chrome strips will be deleted or toned down. The heavy chrome strips above and below the grill and rear license plate holder and under the headlights are uncalled for. The flare on the under window chrome strip at the upkick behind the C window is too thick, and could this window be reshaped to look like a G50 and not a Teana? The bright stips on top and around the lower valance are overdone or unecessary also.

I think the wheel openings need to be reradiused also as the current radii are set too low relative to the wheel and are too large, resulting in an unattractive flare in the opening fore and aft of the wheels.

Boy, I can almost taste that Porfidio Cactus, AZhitman and Q45blue!


i completely agree with the shiny metal. whats the purpose?i hate chrome.

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Postby AZhitman » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

Bleccchhh.

Who the hell decided a V8 luxury touring sedan needed to be that aerodynamic?

Bring back the upright grille (or at least more of the flavor of the current M).

Terribly disappointing. Guess I'll continue coveting the Graphite/Willow 03 M outside my office window...

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Postby maxnix » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

G3tMyDrift wrote:whats the specs on the car?
Quoted from Fuga specifications :

The exterior dimensions for those interested (second are current M45 specs):

Overall length (mm) 4,930 -> 194.1 in. | 197.2 in. Overall width (mm) 1,850 -> 72.8 in. | 69.7 in. Overall height (mm) 1,510 -> 59.4 in. | 57.6 in. Seating capacity 4Wheelbase (mm) 2,950 -> 116.1 in. | 110.2 in. Drive system Front engine, rear drive (FR)Tires, front/rear 245/40R20 __________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t & 2000 Q45

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Postby jEzTeR » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

Nice !I love that rear end.Look at those sexy pipes.:D

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Postby AZhitman » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

For double or nothing:

I'll bet the rear valance-exit pipes, LED strip turnsignals and reverse lighting in chrome beltline trim don't make it to production.

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Postby maxnix » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

AZhitman wrote:For double or nothing:

I'll bet the rear valance-exit pipes, LED strip turnsignals and reverse lighting in chrome beltline trim don't make it to production.
For quadruple or nothing, I bet all the wooden planks from the interior on the console edge, the ends of the dashboard and the door kick panels don't make it either.__________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t & 2000 Q45

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Return of HICAS?

Postby maxnix » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

Fuga also incorporates an array of Nissan's latest technologies, such as the advanced version of the electric-powered Super HICAS system and an electronically controlled steering system, in pursuit of the highest levels of power performance, handling and stability anywhere in the world.__________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t & 2000 Q45

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Postby AZhitman » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

LOL - Keep your money.

Let me know when you're heading through town and I'll hit Ye Olde Tobacco Shoppe... :D

p.s. What a pity.... Could have been a groundbreaking design, now it's just gonna be a Maxima/G35 amalgamation.

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Postby sachmo12345 » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

what car show were those pictures taken from

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Postby QuickSilver » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

Looks like the Tokoyo Auto Show that started yesterday.

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Postby greg_atlanta » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

The exhaust integrated into rear bumper is a designer's dream that never makes it into production.... 20" wheels are another dream.

If they offer an M35 and M45 then we may be a big price spread from low-end to high-end, maybe $35K to $55K?

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Postby yidal8 » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

Exactly my thoughts . The 2005 M35 will cost the same as 2003 M45 is now after the fantastic discounts. Makes the 03M even a better deal then ever. I would guess $7-8K spread between the M35 - 45 , similar to the FX's.Incidently , yesterday , I followed a shiny , clean , silver M45 on the expressway for about 6 miles . First time I could study the car on the road , in motion from the rear , side , front .The car is so elegant to look at , and also has 'presence'. You know immediately that this car is something special.

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Postby Galle » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

greg_atlanta wrote:The exhaust integrated into rear bumper is a designer's dream that never makes it into production...


They're doing it on the Crossfire, I think. I think the look is friggin' awesome, but very sad that it usually doesn't make it to production. I guess it's a result of various insurance-agency laws that require certain kinds of "fender bender" accidents to not exceed repair expense caps. A 5mph tap to a normal rear bumper might cost $500 in a new paint job. A 5mph tap to a rear bumper with the exhaust attached would probably be a $500 paint + $2,000 cat-back replacement.

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Postby jmatas » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

Isn't design a peculiar thing? I look at this car and think: "Wow, here's what I'll be driving in five years!" Hitman says it's ugly. I look at the current M45 and wonder why Infiniti designed the new Crown Vic, but most people in the forum love it. Meanwhile, the one thing we all seem to agree on is a design that's almost 20 years old. Ah well. :)

memo to M45 owners... I'd buy one today if I could ;)

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Postby dezm45 » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

That new M45 (if that's what it is) IS definitely sharp ... But, I'm still glad that I was able to get my 2003 M45 ...

I've only had it a short time, and haven't even had that much time to appreciate it yet, but I'm glad I decided to get it ... Depending on the price of the 2005 M45, I may even keep my M after the lease is up ... cause I know I'll never get a deal like the one I just got !!

The current M45 definitely DOES have a different look about it, but yes, it seems all of us here seem to LIKE that fact !!!

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Postby Jason B » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

I'm afraid the current M45 is the last car from Infiniti that actually keeps it's roots. Boxy, classic design... If that's what you like then I'd scoop one up. Everything from now on is going to be a bubble from outerspace.

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Postby Jeff Williams » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

Hey Hitman, you don't gotta love 'em, just sell 'em.

:D

Here's my $.02:I think the Fuga looks kinda kool, in the pics. I am sure the good ole' USA won't get all the fun stuff, at first.

A far as the M35, I hope it dosen't cost $45,000. I'm still trying to pick out all my options on the G35 Coupe 6MT, and get it for under $35,000. I like to look of the M45 4-door a lot better than the current G35 Sedan, though. As far as that goes, I like the new Maxima, better than the 2000-2003 model year. It kinda looks like a 4 door 350Z.

As far as the Chysler Crossfire goes, it looks a lot better in pics, than in person. That car is tiny! It makes an M3 look like a Crown Vic! The Miata dwarfs it! Well, maybe not that small. It kinda reminds me of the old MGB's with the hard top. UGLY!

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Postby Jeff Williams » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

It would be cool, if the turn signals ocillated, like Kit on Night Rider!

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Postby Jeff Williams » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

I especially like the little kitten in the box, in that last picture!

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Postby greg_atlanta » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

Galle wrote:I think the look is friggin' awesome, but very sad that it usually doesn't make it to production. I guess it's a result of various insurance-agency laws that require certain kinds of "fender bender" accidents to not exceed repair expense caps. A 5mph tap to a normal rear bumper might cost $500 in a new paint job. A 5mph tap to a rear bumper with the exhaust attached would probably be a $500 paint + $2,000 cat-back replacement.


Also have to think about how the engine transfers vibrations to the exhaust, and if exhaust is attached to body then vibrations can be transmitted to the body. Would require a lot of engineering to design a flexible exhaust which will last 10 years. I can see exhaust crud getting on the paint too. Ever looked inside a tailpipe?

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Postby rydwhite » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

greg_atlanta wrote:Also have to think about how the engine transfers vibrations to the exhaust, and if exhaust is attached to body then vibrations can be transmitted to the body. Would require a lot of engineering to design a flexible exhaust which will last 10 years. I can see exhaust crud getting on the paint too. Ever looked inside a tailpipe?


Excellent points. I hadn't thought of that. It makes really good sense.

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Postby PalmerWMD » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:33 am

Jeff Williams wrote:I especially like the little kitten in the box, in that last picture!


Aaawww...:cuddle:

Fred..;)


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