Neukin Nissan KA Bottom Mount any good??

[240sxvaj]

I'm thinking about upgrading to a bigger turbo and just wondering if anyone owns this neukin turbo manifold and if it's any good. the price looks good and seems like it would be better than the jgs log manifold.

And yes, i already searched. nothing about this mani.

http://www.neukin.com/ProductD...nkabm

[nelson8708]

neukin is only a couple hours away from my house. Two of my friends have neukin ram-horn manifolds on their b18 swapped honda's. Both look great and have not had any problems as of yet. One has had it for 8 months and the other for about a year and a half.

Neukin ...good deal on radiators too.

Top mount

http://turbogoods.com/index.as...ID=34

[sunnys14]

It seems like its very high quality but I wouldn't use it because I hve AC and this manifold isn't compatible with AC.

[eazye2000]

I wouldn't mess with them. But that's just me.

They were going to sponsor me a manifold in return for dyno graphs, write ups, and personal opinions on how it was made. Needless to say, they were trying to dupe me into spending like 2k on a turbo, wastegate, and everything else. I already had everything but the manifold.

I would steer clear of them on the KA stuff. I don't know ONE person who has one for the KA. Now the honda stuff is another story.

[shimizu_17]

I think a couple dudes on ka-t.org are running them and like them. For the price its a nice looking manifold.

[nelson8708]

I would steer clear of them on the KA stuff. I don't know ONE person who has one for the KA. Now the honda stuff is another story.

Nissan...Honda.....the same people are making/welding them.

[neverlift]

sounds like bad bizz to me

dont forget you will need a p/s relocation kit

[240sxvaj]

Thanks everybody, i guess this is not the manifold for me. only if ams was still making their manifold. but then cost wayyyy too much for me. Thanks again.

[eazye2000]

Well, as soon as work picks up, and I can afford the materials for R&D, I will be making exhaust manifolds, as well as intake manifolds.Here is one I MIG'd together in the garage with some crap I had laying around. It's actually on a car, making about 180hp/tq with cams and I/H/E.Don't make fun, it was with crap I had laying around.

[kouki_hmongster]

wow thats not bad at all. man i cant wait to learn more in school (mechanical engineer) and start making my own parts. maybe i should sell my guitar and buy a tig welder.

also one thing i notice you polishing that manifold, i just finished my bros and it looks bling. its such hard work to make something look nice. but the hard work pays off.

BTW hows your gt30 treating you? any dyno or track times?

[eazye2000]

I wont thread jack. I'll update my thread with info.

[sunnys14]

Neukin manifolds have been advertised in many magazines and I have seen one for myself and they are high in quality.

Just because they're new doesn't mean they suck.

[neverlift]

Neukin manifolds have been advertised in many magazines and I have seen one for myself and they are high in quality.

Just because they're new doesn't mean they suck.

I think quality looks decent, however if they couldnt design it to clear stock p/s location or ac.... fail imo, I mean ebay can ffs.

no dyno sheets either.......

[ka-t 300]

Neukin manifolds have been advertised in many magazines and I have seen one for myself and they are high in quality.

Just because they're new doesn't mean they suck.

I think jgs has a better deal for the money and you can keep the ac and the power steering.

[sunnys14]

The reason why it can't because its a bottom mount. The only other T3 bottom mount manifold is the AMS manifold but good luck finding one. Yes it sucks that its not compatible with AC, one of the reasons i'm not running one right now

Ebay bottom mounts can fit because its made to fit smaller turbos like T28's and such. My GT3076R barely fits down there.

[eazye2000]

My GT3076R barely fits down there.

I'm gonna tell you right now to bail out before you get anywhere. I'm having problems with blowing gaskets with that turbo man. Too much pressure in the manifold. If you get around 25psi into the motor, you're going to have about 40psi of pressure in the exhaust manifold. The T2 is awesome on the KA if you keep it under like 15-16 psi of boost. Any more than that, and it gets hairy.I just melted/blew out a coper turbine gasket....

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[480sx]

EZ, you auta check your drive pressure to figure out what kinda limits you can pull out of that turbo. Diesel guys use them all the time to figure out the limits of their turbos. You hook it up to your exhaust manifold at the collector and use it for tuning.

Ideally you want a 1:1 boost/drive pressure ratio, however, you can run up to a 1:1.5 ratio. Anything higher than that and your turbine trys to 'walk' out of your CHRA which will destroy your bearings, ect.

[neukin]

Hey guys.

The manifold doesnt work with power steerings (PS) current location because we made it that way. We dont build around what is offered... we rebuild everything our way. When the 240sx was built it wasnt for you to turbo and toss in a vmount kit. We build race setups and if the PS is in our way we move it.

Turbo sits lower then any other KA or SR manifold!!!!

We lower the weight in the chassis for better center of gravity. You hear race teams make new engine mounts just to sit the engine 1mm lower. It really helps.

We lower the PS to get it away from the turbo manifold. Some guys running other setups have to run a cooler. Our kit keeps the PS cooler, its far from the manifold and catches cooler air from under the car.

Our manifold is built to stay far from the brake system also since thats a large problem on alot of 240sx setups.

Just got back from MidOhio this weekend, tracking the setup only made us happier. Not one issue, everything works perfect.



As far as eazye2000 or Eric we didnt hear from him or get updates on his plans.. he asked about turbo info ""Actually, let me know what you can get that would be in the same range of the T3/60-1 or something of the sorts with a .68-.86 AR on the turbine/hot side."" and we were going to do a turbo and wastegate for way under 2K! ? not sure where he is coming up with those details. In fact if he would have emailed us seeing how things were going id still sponsor him.. his loss i guess. Always willing to help someone who gets out there and races.

[kouki_hmongster]

hey neukin, i know you just stated that you guys only build race manifold but gaurantee you guys will get more customers if you guys can make a turbo manifold that wont get in the way of P/S and A/C. most of the guys on ka-t forum(like me) use their car for daily driven.

But then again that's just me, maybe i should just start a buisness of my own and make what everyone wants to buy because most shop dont want to make what most of us kids want. maybe after college..

[neukin]

The topmount works with the PS and AC location. Its a longer runner manifold so its best for higher power or drag racing. Just one line is in the way and would need protected with a wrap or a custom line built at your local "Parker" shop if you want to be on the safe side.

The bottom mount was built for more of a road race or drift application. It doesnt work with ac but does work with PS (just need our bracket, hardware, and belt) Most guys dont run ac, but thats just from the 500+ non ac manifolds we have sold to the honda guys, only about 100 setups have been for ac.

[eazye2000]

As far as eazye2000 or Eric we didnt hear from him or get updates on his plans..

Dude.. lol I e-mailed you guys once a week, for about 4 months straight. I actually have one still in my sent box from a few days ago alerting you about this thread. Maybe that's why you popped in here?... But yes, I was always in touch, and waiting eagerly for your reply.I told you exactly what I was looking for. Nobody ever got back with me. I always got a reply with a different signature on the e-mail, for whatever reason.I ended up buying two turbo's since the whole 'misunderstanding'. Blowing more than your '2k' estimate.And as these guys can attest, I'm one of the more 'hardcore go-getter' KA-T guys. I'm always up for doing something new. Hell, I'm one of the first guys to go after Jason and get his eMance tunes. I did it for the community, and to get this guys name out there. The same as I was trying to do for your company.I have two 240's. S13 with a fully built motor. And an S14 that is undergoing major reconstruction. Both of which you guys should have known about since I gave plans for both cars. S13 is a daily/street/weekend car. And the S14 is going hardcore track/race.Check your e-mail. I promise you that you have mail from me as of lately.

And don't get me wrong, and misunderstand my intentions. The OP asked for opinions on the manifold and company, and I gave what experience I had. I wasn't trying to belittle or bash anyone.I would actually buy one of these manifolds if I had to. Just to test it out for the community. I put my 5k motor on the line with Jasons/eMance tune. I'd be more than happy to test out one of the manifolds.

[neukin]

This is messed up Eric. Im going to have to spend time on this now...

Dude.. lol I e-mailed you guys once a week, for about 4 months straight.

and i emailed you back almost every time... please dont make it seem like we ignored 16 of your emails. Id get two and reply or get one and reply, i looked through everything and one time you sent three and then i replied. Then you sent one and we never heard back from you.

Nobody ever got back with me.

I sent 6 emails replying to your questions.

I always got a reply with a different signature on the e-mail, for whatever reason.

Im the ONLY person that does email, dont know what other sig you would have other then: "Thanks -AlexNeukin Motor Development http://www.neukin.comhttp://www.turbogoods.com"

I sent you the first and only email from my hotmail account asking about your plans and the car. I was scouting for potential cars/people. It was so i could get a honest reply. If i emailed from a company email it could spark, false plans, lies, and such just to get sponsored.

I ended up buying two turbo's since the whole 'misunderstanding'. Blowing more than your '2k' estimate.

I quoted you under 1k.. not sure where this 2k is coming from.

Hell, I'm one of the first guys to go after Jason and get his eMance tunes. I did it for the community, and to get this guys name out there. The same as I was trying to do for your company.

I contacted YOU asking what your plans were with the car on 10/9/07.. you didnt contact me trying to get my name out there. I was scouting for someone to sponsor.

Last i heard from you was Feb 28, saying your not going to track the S14 after all and you could still test our stuff on your S13 KA you already have built. Then i again hear from you on Aug 17.. about 5 MONTHS later with no email from you. You email me saying any thread that says something about "neukin" your going to put your "thoughts" into it since you had a bad experience since we didnt email you back?

You cant give up after we dont get back to you after a week. Anyways pretty sure we contacted you and talked with you about giving you parts for FREE and giving you a discount on other parts you were interested in to go with the sponsorship.

NOV 29 "Are you still game to get this going."Then i didnt hear from you until JAN 21!

FEB 30 "Email as much as you want its just been busy and we had a flood and its hard to keep up with so much going on"

Beats me.. not sure we want to sponsor guys that act like that. In the 5 months i didnt hear anything else i bought a 240 and built a track car to test the products. I wanted to sponsor you but didnt get alot of interest from you and you didnt email me enough keeping me up to date on your plans.

All in all and in the main interest of this thread, in my personal opinion we make a good manifold but there are others out there at do. We have made about 600+ units and have had about 6 crack out of the first 100 ever made so the newer 500 units are not cracking at all.. so far over about 3 years. If you need AC look else where, even though the topmount works with ac its better for above 500whp. The bottom mount is best for lower power goals, track, autox, and street applications where lower some midrange is wanted but doesnt work with AC.

[eazye2000]

FEB 30 "Email as much as you want its just been busy and we had a flood and its hard to keep up with so much going on"

I have no idea where that came about. I don't think I sent that to you. You may be mistaken.

I thought I was pretty persistent, and clear in what my plans were, for both cars. I guess maybe something got lost in the mix, or someone misunderstood something.

Also, I didn't want you to think that I was going to be trying to trying to milk you guys for anything. Any part, or product that is brought to my attention, I have always paid for the materials involved, no matter what. But when I got the e-mail saying I would have to buy your turbo, and wastegate, I was alarmed. And I apologize if I misunderstood and was defensive on possibly being scammed out of money.

So I guess if anyone wants to try their manifold, give it a shot. Nobody has one, right? Test it out for the community, see how it works. I would give it a shot, but I guess my opportunity has come and passed.

[MTX450]

I dunno, these manifold look great to me!

[eazye2000]

I dunno, these manifold look great to me!

Did you see the weld that WD put on his wastegate? KILLER looking weld!

.....then he drug the wastegate down the street by the vacuum line.

I'm still waiting for someone to try one of these out. I'm usually the 'guinea' pig for the newer stuff that comes out for our cars. But I don't think I'm going for this one since they pretty much batted the opportunity away.Oh, and I learned the hard way about tuning. Jason hasn't gotten back with me about a re-tune in some months now. It's basically forced me to learn to do it on my own. So if anyone's interested in getting a board, and chips, let me know! Just got an order in on a 4-map switchable daughterboards with chips![/threadjack]