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So there is a growing movement in this countryto stifle the internet sterilize and make people pay for a service that is such a huge educational tool for everyone involved

They are talking about cuting the internet up into zones

trying to get rid of all adult material and makeing people pay differant rates depending on what zone your working in slower service you pay less but you get like dial up speeds and the faster you go the more you pay as much as hundreds of dolors there some very powerfully positioned christian fundamentalist (Exclamation on the mental) backing this push as well as senators

so im trying to get the word out for people to do some research and sign the many petitions that people have started online just use google and search up net neutrality to see all the disscussion and what not regarding this it is sad very sad that people cant see that it is a parents job to police there children and family not ours and that were going to pay for it started with the columbine shootings and now its come to this im sorry to say but video games cant make you go crazzy and kill people if anything many studys have shown that they are a healthy outlet for aggression and promote problem solving skills in younger children but here again people refuse to take controll of there own destinys and take care of the there familys they expect us to shoulder the burden of parenting there kids if i wanted kids i would have kids dont make me raise yoursits basically video games have a rating system same as a movie or dvd they range from E-A for adult there have no been very many games with a A rating as of yet and im not sure in this country there ever will be but video games are a art form of sorts and should be protected just like comic books when they started out everyone said they were bad they made them set up a standard of censorships and self policing to make sure nothing but approved images made it to print are we living in the world of somone elses creation or are we going to make a change ? strike out for freedom of speach and such because if it werent for that JWoos AWSOME SITE Probebly wouldant exist drifting would not exist nothing fun would exist ever ! because if its fun its bad pretty much in the eyes of these people So here is a link to the google net neutrallity petition and lets keep our internet free and keep a watchfull eye out for people trying to stamp on our freedoms YOU GUYS ROCK!

http://www.google.com/help/netneutrality.html

http://civic.moveon.org/save_the_internet/

http://savetheinternet.com/comcast.php

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punctuation is our friend, friend (woop woop! pull over, grammar police!)

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Also, while your mission is just, online petitions are useless. Hell, there's one out to make Jeremy Clarkson PM of the UK.

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fairzdrift wrote:They are talking about cuting the internet up into zones...

trying to get rid of all adult material...(bs)
I stopped reading there, heres why...

p0rn is the internet PERIOD.

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Papi Chulo wrote:I stopped reading there, heres why...

p0rn is the internet PERIOD.
haha i agree

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seriously...in all seriousness, the day p0rn is banished from the interwebs....is the day human civilazation collapses.....mark my words

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fairzdrift wrote:So there is a growing movement in this countryto stifle the internet, sterilize it. And make people pay for a service; that is such a huge educational tool for everyone involved.

They are talking about cutting the internet up into zones.

They are trying to get rid of all adult material, and make people pay different rates, depending on what zone your working in. Slower service; you pay less but you get slow speeds, and the faster you go, the more you pay. As much as hundreds of dollars. There some very powerfully positioned Christian fundamentalist (Exclamation on the mental) backing this push, as well as senators.

so I'm trying to get the word out for people to do some research, and sign the many petitions that people have started online. Just use Google and search up "net neutrality" to see all the discussion and what not regarding this issue. It is sad, very sad, that people cant see that it is a parents job to police their children and family, not ours. And that were going to pay for it. It started with the Columbine shootings, and now its come to this. I'm sorry to say, but video games cant make you go crazy and kill people. If anything, many study s have shown that they are a healthy outlet for aggression. And promote problem solving skills in younger children. But here again people refuse to take control of there own destiny's, and take care of the their own family's. They expect us to shoulder the burden of parenting there kids. If I wanted kids i would have kids. Don't make me raise yours!Its basically video games have a rating system, same as a movies or dvd's. They range from E-A for adult. There has not been very many games with an A rating as of yet. And I'm not sure in this country there ever will be. But video games are a art form of sorts, and should be protected just like comic books. When they started out everyone said they were bad, they made them set up a standard of censorships, and self policing to make sure nothing but approved images made it to print. Are we living in the world of someone else's creation, or are we going to make a change? strike out for freedom of speech and such. Because if it weren't for that; JWoos AWSOME SITE probably wouldn't exist, drifting would not exist, nothing fun would exist ever! Because if its fun its bad, pretty much in the eyes of these people. So here is a link to the Google net neutrality petition and lets keep our internet free and keep a watchful eye out for people trying to stamp out our freedoms. YOU GUYS ROCK!

http://www.google.com/help/netneutrality.html

http://civic.moveon.org/save_the_internet/

http://savetheinternet.com/comcast.php

HAPPY HUNTING
Maybe now it is readable.

I fail to see what video games have to do with net neutrality though. And video games aren't "Art" they are a "product". Ohh they are creations of peoples minds, and they can be beautiful. But when I think "Art" I think of Music, paintings, writings. not GTA4. Calling video games art is a bit of a reach IIHO.

And if you want me to take you seriously, and consider your ideas, not just dismiss them. THEN LEARN HOW TO USE FREAKING PUNCTUATION AND CRAMMER WITH SOME SPELLING MIXED IN! Now I'm not the best out there with the engrish language, but at least I know what . , ' ! ? : ; " all mean.

Also, the internet is not free. Get over it. Do you have any idea how much the infrastructure cost to build??? Not to mention the maintenance and upgrade cost. Do you have any idea how much a major ISP spends on bandwidth, or a company like Google spends on server farms? Sure it's "Free" to use their service. But some one is paying the light bill every month to keep all of that gear up and running, along with all of the salaries of the employees who maintain all of that high dollar infrastructure. I though net neutrality was more about open networks and non-teared services, no QOS, and the like. If I own a network, and I can't implement my own QoS how I want to serve my customers best, then why in the hell would I spend a red cent on any of it. You tell me that I can't allow latency sensitive data, or E-commerce priority over some jerk=off stealing music. Then I will gladly tell you to GTFO my network. Weather anyone likes it or not it is money that drives the internet. Be it Pr0n, E-commerce, or some one paying their ISP their monthly fee. And if those company's can't control their network, and control who access it, how they access it, what data rates they are allowed,and how long they are allowed those data rates, then the interwebs will be useless. Because that same jerk-off stealing music and all of his buddies have been camped on the same pipe you are sitting on for the last three days, and You can't check Nico because they have the same priority as you. And things where invented and ideas where shared long before the internet. Things like books, magazines, speeches, conversation, etc, etc, all passed along info from one person to another.

Don't get me wrong though, I don't think the government needs to inject itself into peoples lives anymore than they already have been allowed too.

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Sign all the petitions you want, it's coming. Can't wait till the government wants to chip us like pet dogs.

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Freedom of information is Freedom. If the government starts clamping down on the internet, you're going to have issues like China's own internet.

First they clamp down. Next they start restricting information. Next they let you see only what they want you to see. Then you have a non-free society. Comon, China doesnt even SEE the Tienanmen Square massacre. They see people smiling in Tienanmen Square. The gov doesn't want them to know. Period.

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You know, the gov't seems to be getting more and more powerful when ideas like this come to their mind.

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ok first off im not for stealing music

Secondly video games are a art form because people work very hard creating all the little models and pretty colors you see every day in them.

All those models come from Basic sketches on some ARTISTS drafting board

Therefore video games are a creative art form no differant these days from movies or tv. yes there media and not in the same category as music or paintings but still a subculture of there generation

and thats not even the point of my post really im just trying to say that if they start hacking up the internet into do not fly zones and placing restrictions on the speed for what you pay (i mean as if oil wasent pricy enuff ) then its going to get ruff out there just think about how much info you get every day off this forum it might not be available to you if somone decided they would like to charge you for the privallige of viewing

And as far as punctuation i dont care lol the point is valid periods or no it is a typical tactic to discredit a argument buy picking on something that has nothing to do with it

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History always repeats itself. The Internet is one thing the government cannot control.

Therefore, they must legislate their control over it. Once this is done, they can do what China has done.

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I wasn't trying to discredit you, I just couldn't comprehend half of what you wrote due to the poor grammar and spelling. And if you don't care enough to convey your point using proper English so you ideas and arguments are easy to understand, then why should I take you seriously???

And I do get charged for the privilege of viewing this forum. I Pay my ISP every month to have internet access.

PLEASE oh PLEASE tell me you have an Xbox 360 online account! Which package do you have Gold, or Silver? Gee now that I think about it. . . that sounds like. . . . . . . ZOMG. . . . The horror. . . . TIERED service. . . . . OHHHH NOEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ the huge manatee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And if you don't believe the government doesn't already exert control over the internet, then how in the hell do they prosecute crimes committed online, like kitty pron and wire fraud??? I bet ISP's provide record to the government for the prosecution of felonies committed using their networks. And I bet that that federal law enforcement has direct taps into their network to monitor suspects. And I bet they shut down Kitty Pron and fraudulent websites.


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