Negative Camber?

[smalcom]

Looking at the wheels and tires on my 97 Q45t, it looks like there is negative camber on this car. Do I need to get my eyes (or the car) checked or does the Q, in fact, have negative camber?

[jettsetter4life22]

yes you probably do have some negative camber its in infiniti the question you have to ask yourself is it so negative that it is wearing your tires. if it is your going to have to igure something out to bring camber positive. there usually isnt oem adjustment for camber or caster but a good alignment technician can ysually figure something out. on my 91 q45 i had to place shims in between the frame and the upper control arm mounts. let me know if you need any more help

[maxnix]

Might want to read the FSM and report back your alignment specifications.

[smalcom]

yes you probably do have some negative camber its in infiniti the question you have to ask yourself is it so negative that it is wearing your tires. if it is your going to have to igure something out to bring camber positive. there usually isnt oem adjustment for camber or caster but a good alignment technician can ysually figure something out. on my 91 q45 i had to place shims in between the frame and the upper control arm mounts. let me know if you need any more help

Tires are wearing beautifully. It's going Monday to the dealer for some work, and I will have them check the alignment. BTW the negative camber seems to be only on the rear wheels.

[tmak26b]

Almost all moderns cars have a small amount negative camber, camber is needed because not all roads are flat and it is used whenever car is leaning into the corner. Camber only wear your tire fast if you have tons of them, toe is more the leading course of tire wear. That's why a lot of non performance vehicles only have toe adjustments.

yes you probably do have some negative camber its in infiniti the question you have to ask yourself is it so negative that it is wearing your tires. if it is your going to have to igure something out to bring camber positive. there usually isnt oem adjustment for camber or caster but a good alignment technician can ysually figure something out. on my 91 q45 i had to place shims in between the frame and the upper control arm mounts. let me know if you need any more help

[Q45tech]

Most street tires are designed for less than 1.0 degrees of rolling camber.

Don't confuse static [sitting still] alignments with what happens at 60 mph.

OEM created static misalignment numbers [so called alignment specs] to correct the changes that happen when bushings are stresses moving forward.

[maxnix]

Most street tires are desisigned for less than 1.0 degrees of rolling camber.

There is a definite difference between -1.5° and -2.5° of static camber on the rear of my FGY33.

[Evanarc]

There is a definite difference between -1.5° and -2.5° of static camber on the rear of my FGY33.

Edit by Moderator: Unnecessary flame deleted. Stop the personal attacks, please.

[qship96]

Theres the alcohol talking again.....may want to look into AA before it sends you down the sewer.

[Death by Mullet]

I am having the same issue on my 94 Q. I have got it alligned 3 times in the last 2 yeaars and the front end still wears WAY uneven. The inside of the tires ware really bad. Is there a camber kit I need? Do others have the same issue. I am really tired of buying tires!

[Q451990]

G50 has a lot of negative camber by design... part of the agressive suspension setup. Best bet is to keep the tires rotated regularly, and possibly flip them on the wheels about half way through your tire's life...

Heath

[maxnix]

I am having the same issue on my 94 Q. I have got it alligned 3 times in the last 2 yeaars and the front end still wears WAY uneven.

Something is wrong if the front end is not wearing evenly side to side.

The 0° thrust angle is imperative to establish first. POst your aligment specifications before and after from all three alignments, please. A short maintenance history of your suspension will also help.

Where are you getting it aligned? Specialist or large national tire shop chain or discount department store?

[Q45tech]

Alignment personal know how hard they have to work by the Brand and Model Tires on the car...............4 different brands vs Michelin Performance.

Clueless owners get a minimal exertion, as they don't care so why should aligner.

An owner with $1000 worth of tires should be better educated and more demanding of the alignment process. They sure won't be happy with a " life time alignment'...............they want to pay $80 every 6 months and give the technican a $10-$20 tip before the alignment begins to get possible perfection.

If tires cost 5 cents per mile to replace then a $20 tip should add 500-1,000 miles to tire life.

Everything about a car is broken down to cost per mile driven. Brake applications per mile, shock oscillations per mile,Heck even insurance should be paid by the mile driven.

[jltibbs]

Might want to read the FSM and report back your alignment specifications.

This should be closest to OEM.

[SteveTheTech]

I agree with Q45guru, If you ask to talk to the tech that's going to be aligning your baby let them know what you are looking at, let them know you care about your car and the life span of your tires and ride quality . The Q is notorious for negative camber, the suspension usually balances out though when there is load on the (passengers or stuff in the trunk ) and ~1 degree of negative camber is still within spec if I am not mistaken.

[Q45tech]

The oem perfection spec for front camber is -0.7 degrees and ANY deviation means some component is bent or worn out of spec.

Simple, FIND and replace the worn component.Failure to replace upper links [about every 3 years or 30k] allows the suspension to bang metal to metal bending something else like the 3rd link or eventually the shock tower sheet metal. { shock tower strut exerts counterforce to try to keep tower from natural bending inwards increasing negative camber }

You would be surprise at how many old Q have washers behind upper link rear mounting bracket where a body shop too a short cut instead of repairing the real problem.

[ryhi]

This should be closest to OEM.

that is insane!