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Nice terminator tom and whoever is buying that is getting an awesome deal, i mysefl would love to have one of those bad boys but i can't stand the interior on mustangs and their tiny gauges, other than that i love it and good luck with the build...do not pay attention to 90% of 240sx gen chat, it's full of fanbois and wannabes who don't know what they are talking about, the other 10% just sit back and laugh.


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80k for a 2jz swap??

absolutely not.

that number is so far inflated its absurd.

best of luck with your project, cant wait to see it actually start.

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Quote »You can save a bit of money by modding the s13 crossmember to make the 2jz bolt it. It's really easy to do. You can get a drive shaft made for 300-500 depending on how strong you want it. [/quote] I would love to see pics and maybe a write up on what actually to do.

Quote »seeing that i retarted my cas 1 deg per lb of boost up to 14.7 and 1.5 deg paer lb after that using a timing light, i have a knock meter, wideband and pyrometer. car is solid.prove me wrong......... [/quote] Well I hope I dont have to "prove you wrong" because you would have a popped motor. I dont wish that on anyone. All I have to say is look at any high hp cars that actually stays together and lasts. You dont see safc's in them.

Quote »Nice terminator tom and whoever is buying that is getting an awesome deal, i mysefl would love to have one of those bad boys but i can't stand the interior on mustangs and their tiny gauges, other than that i love it and good luck with the build.... [/quote]Thanks!! Yeah my 9 sec 95 gt had the same interior as my 03 cobra..LOL!

Quote »best of luck with your project, cant wait to see it actually start.[/quote]Thank you! Me too...

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cobra tom wrote:Like I said someone will get a steal for 25k.




siiiiiiick...

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cobra tom wrote:You dont shop 2003-2004 cobras very much I assume. The average 2003-2004 turboed cobra sells for over 30k. Im gonna cut someone a sweet deal at 25k and make 8k profit.
WOW I HIGHLY dout you will get that kind of money for your Cobra, but reach for the moon. A buddy of mine bought a Ken Bell SCed Cobra for $10k. It had 11.8 sec runs time sheets and it was fullly preped for drag racing (built rear, built trans etc) and he paid $10k so something tells me a tubro Stang doesnt get THAT much more money then a SCed one.

EDIT:Just read some previous posts. Your car was rated to 1000whp?If that is the case then 25K isnt a bad deal if it is done right, but who has $25k for a Mustang right now?
cobra tom wrote:I suggested to my fab buddy about doing a race manifold be he stated that the ebay manifold was cheap and he could correct anything on it. that would be cheaper then a high dollar manifold. If I was going for 1000plus rwhp then definately spend the money on the race manifold but for what Im looking for its just a waste of money. I wont be able to get the car to hook up that kind of power plus its pass the limits of the parts im using.
I hope he is a car fab expert. Buying a made mani then modifying it is probably the best way out. If changes need to be made he can alter an allready made mani. I just hope everything works out.
cobra tom wrote:I was on fresh alloy and smracing in florida states the q45 diff is extremely strong and already has 30 spline axles.
Again, I would buy my parts once. Unless you plan for moderate HP then stop there, you should be fine. But me I dont like problems so I over kill on parts like that (Rears and trans).
cobra tom wrote:For me yes. I can do all the labor mechiancs wise and the welding is free to me. The tuning is also free because Im buying the ecu from the tuner.
NICE!You can weld for me?
deuceforty wrote:80k for a 2jz swap??absolutely not.

that number is so far inflated its absurd.

best of luck with your project, cant wait to see it actually start.
NO, a 2JZ swap can cost any where from $11k to $6k.

BUT a 2JZ swaped 240 making serious power (800hp+) that has the abillity to handle that power can cost 80k. This also depends who you know. IDK any one in the industry so I will be paying full price.

ALSO I posted this before but you didnt look at it:Check outAcidz: Project S14 2JZ

That is what a 2JZ swap done right looks like. Ask him how much his project has costed him.
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man u got alot of work to do if u wanna hit 800hp+ maybe look into SP RACING for a full fuel system. and Greddy sells a good quality manifold at a reasonable price or atleast they did when i bought mine. check out my build if u want some ideas, ive used alot of Tech2 products and alot of other respectable companies. but a project like this is never as cheap as you budget for.

zerothread?id=346182

obviously not quite finished yet, but this spring/summer ill have the cash to put the finishing touches on it.

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WOW Quote »I HIGHLY dout you will get that kind of money for your Cobra, but reach for the moon. A buddy of mine bought a Ken Bell SCed Cobra for $10k. It had 11.8 sec runs time sheets and it was fullly preped for drag racing (built rear, built trans etc) and he paid $10k so something tells me a tubro Stang doesnt get THAT much more money then a SCed one.[/quote]That sounds like a older cobra not the 03-04. If so he got a smoking smoking deal. I have a friend who just bought a salvage titled one for 12k and had to put 3k in to drive it.

Quote »EDIT:Just read some previous posts. Your car was rated to 1000whp?If that is the case then 25K isnt a bad deal if it is done right, but who has $25k for a Mustang right now?[/quote] That will most definately be a hang up. But people are still selling cars so someones buying them. The loan value on a cobra is still $20-21k. Most pullied 03-04's are selling for 17k-19k making 450-470whp,most kb cobras are selling for 24k-26k making 575-600rwhp. The turbo cobras are selling for 31k-45k making 650-1100rwhp.

Quote »I hope he is a car fab expert. Buying a made mani then modifying it is probably the best way out. If changes need to be made he can alter an allready made mani. I just hope everything works out[/quote] He builts BL manifolds and designs there turbo kits. He's pretty close to "the man" when it comes to fabbing.

Quote »Again, I would buy my parts once. Unless you plan for moderate HP then stop there, you should be fine. But me I dont like problems so I over kill on parts like that (Rears and trans).[/quote]This is the one area that has me on the fence on builting the car. I cant get any straight diff answers on what will handle the power. Guy on freshalloy snapped mazwork axles with 700whp.

Quote »BUT a 2JZ swaped 240 making serious power (800hp+) that has the abillity to handle that power can cost 80k. This also depends who you know. IDK any one in the industry so I will be paying full price.[/quote]Im just curious but where are you getting 80k from?

Quote »man u got alot of work to do if u wanna hit 800hp+ maybe look into SP RACING for a full fuel system. and Greddy sells a good quality manifold at a reasonable price or atleast they did when i bought mine.[/quote] The parts I listed on the build budget above will get me 850whp@30-34psi on race gas and 750whp@24psi on e85. Thoses numbers are direct from BL's boys with thoses parts. Like I said Ihave the hook up most dont so it wont cost me near as much. IE that hks fuel rail you have costs what $365. i can buy fuel rail stock for $45 and have my buddy drill the injector holes with his injector bit.

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i too do not understand where you are getting 80k from..

"2JZGTE Engine only with twin turbos is also available for only $2999.00 + shipping"pick up your trans for another 1k TOPS

his friend fabs manifolds, they can make motor mounts etc pretty easily, if not the mount kit is like 450 IIRC

1 piece DS, 400 tops

so your looking at 5k right now

built engine =3k

8k total.

turbos, management, fuel system, tuning - 5-6k

so lets say 14k.

cage-1ksuspension, lets go top of the line here. 3500

so we are at 18k.

wilwood 6 piston brake kit- 150019.5k

im REALLY not seeing where another 60k is going to come from..

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cobra tom wrote:
I would love to see pics and maybe a write up on what actually to do.
Here you go. It's not detailed.zerothread?id=233050

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cobra tom wrote:
The parts I listed on the build budget above will get me 850whp@30-34psi on race gas and 750whp@24psi on e85. Thoses numbers are direct from BL's boys with thoses parts. Like I said Ihave the hook up most dont so it wont cost me near as much. IE that hks fuel rail you have costs what $365. i can buy fuel rail stock for $45 and have my buddy drill the injector holes with his injector bit.
sweet that you have hookups then. what can i say when i do a project i like to do it up right. its a show/street car so therefore the flash parts are what i want:) and i dont feel theres any point in having more than 600whp in a street car. anymore, id just mod my street bike.

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deuceforty wrote:i too do not understand where you are getting 80k from..

"2JZGTE Engine only with twin turbos is also available for only $2999.00 + shipping"pick up your trans for another 1k TOPS

his friend fabs manifolds, they can make motor mounts etc pretty easily, if not the mount kit is like 450 IIRC

1 piece DS, 400 tops

so your looking at 5k right now

built engine =3k

8k total.

turbos, management, fuel system, tuning - 5-6k

so lets say 14k.

cage-1ksuspension, lets go top of the line here. 3500

so we are at 18k.

wilwood 6 piston brake kit- 150019.5k

im REALLY not seeing where another 60k is going to come from..
Well sure now your left with a stock block JZ. Depending what power you want changes the buget dramaticly.

Also after all is said and done you need to paint, body work etc. Maybe that wont add $60K but remember the misc crap that goes wrong. Nothing ever work the first time perfectly. Some people can have everything installed and tuned and then spend months fine tuning their set-up.

60K isnt an impossible figure to reach when you are thinking up projects like these up.

My diff swap was quoted at $700, It ended up at $1000 so I know first hand things some times things arent perfect

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i clearly including building the engine in my post.so its not a stock block JZ.

and how the hell does it cost 1000 dollars to swap a diff? my diff swap took me around an hour to do....

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Good Luck on the Swap. Keep us updated also you can join Tech2 Forums. and you can get more info on the swap.

For me I think if I get my hands on another 240 I will endup doing a LS swap. but we'll see.

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keep up diffenently updated

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deuceforty wrote:
im REALLY not seeing where another 60k is going to come from..
Lol, that was funny

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ne progress yet cobra tom? find a car or a motor?

i just installed a f con to my rb, so no more instant grat, hu?


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