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I have 30mm spacers in the rear, which bolted right ontop of my stock studs no problem. But I'm having trouble with the 20mm spacers waiting to go on up front. I just can't decide what length studs to run since the stock studs stick out from the spacer and prevent my wheel from going back on...

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Should I press out the stock studs from both the hub and the spacer and just run 4 new studs that are 20mm longer?

Or should I keep running 2 sets of studs with the set in my hubs shortened to sit flush with the spacer? If so, what shorter length stud/brand do you recommend?


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Bump. C'mon guys. I know someones got to know this. I'll make it easier... Anybody just know the length of the stock hub studs?

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I'd like to know this too. I can't believe that simmode1 is the first person to use bolt on spacers here.

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i think you should be okay with the stock studs... it all really depends on what it looks like on the inside of the wheel where it contacts the spacer to see if it clears the oem studs.

but for the most part, I've seen people run 15mm bolt ons with no worries. But then again.. it really depends on the contact area. hopefully you have an x pattern or something on your wheels.


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Maybe I'm stupid or something, but I don't get it. I actually DID mount the spacers. The stock studs DID protrude from the spacer. And the wheel DID NOT fit ontop on the spacer with the stock studs sticking out.

I only tried mounting my 4 lug universal wheel and not my 4x114.3 only. The stock studs don't line up to the extra holes in the universal 4 lug wheel. I've had these spacers lying around since last summer and I really want to put them on now...

Got any input on the stud length or advice for going with shorter studs or even cutting the stock studs?
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simmode1 wrote:or even cutting the stock studs?
I've seen someone asking same question before in this tire/suspension forum. You can cut the studs with Dremel to sit flush with the wheel. Usually, wheels have slots inside, so studs sticking out a little bit is not a problem. I'd just cut the studs if I were you.

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The reason I'm hesitant about cutting the studs is that I've heard this may weaken the strength/structural integrity of the studs. I don't want them to break off and I end up like that FD with its wheels coming off...

Although, I've never thought about using a dremel to do it. I'd like a few more opinions on it before I settle on that idea. But that is the front runner for now...

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simmode1 wrote:I only tried mounting my 4 lug universal wheel and not my 4x114.3 only.
Ah... thats why...

well... you could also add a sandwhich spacer between the hub and your bolt on spacer, lol... that'll lessen the oem stud protrude-ness...

or, just cut the extra stud length.

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adrians_s13 wrote:well... you could also add a sandwhich spacer between the hub and your bolt on spacer, lol... that'll lessen the oem stud protrude-ness...
EFFIN GENIUS! EFFIN GENIUS! I'VE ACTUALLY GOT A SPARE SET OF 10MM SLIP-ON SPACERS THAT I WAS JUST GONNA THROW AWAY! I'LL USE THOSE! THAT WILL EFFECTIVELY MAKE MY FRONTS FIT LIKE MY 30MM REARS! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Although, this will cause a bit of a problem when I switch to my kosei k1's 16x8.5 and XXR 962's 17x9 sets.... Oh well! I'll cross that bridge when I get to it!

Thanks for all the help guys!

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Is there any play when you put a slip-on spacer on? I've seen so many setups like this before in Drift Tengoku, so it should work. But wheel will be 10mm away from the hub, so there will be more load on stock studs if you know what I mean?

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more stress on studs, yes...

but I've been running 10mm spacers on extended studs for the last 2-3 years... and i've had no problems

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Thats a good question. I'm hoping it will be securely held since it will be sandwiched between the hub and the bolt on spacer, more or less bolting it down, too.

I'm gonna try it and if it seems unsafe and I'll let you guys know. Hell at this point, I'm scouring my place to find those slip ons. I hope I didn't throw them away already...

In the meantime, keep the ideas coming!

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Ok. I found my 10mm slip-on spacers and did a test fit. I sandwiched the one slip-on between the two bolt-on spacers since their studs are the same length as stock. And you know what? Flushness!

At first, there was tons on play, which made me doubt this whole idea. But after putting the lug nuts on, the play disappeared. I tested the setup on my 4x114.3 only Kosei K1's and it fit like a charm!

I'll try to actually put them on the car sometime this weekend. However, I am thinking that it might be beneficial to throw some Loctite in the mix. I'm also trying to determine if this setup will put a dangerous amount of stress on the stock studs.

Still very much open to input guys!

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simmode1 wrote:Still very much open to input guys!
get wheels that don't require such thick spacers

lol

jk

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simmode1 wrote:At first, there was tons on play, which made me doubt this whole idea. But after putting the lug nuts on, the play disappeared.
Question is... is there going to be vibration on the highway or not. You know slip-on spacer is not hub centric on your car right now. What's your wheel spec? 30mm is a pretty big spacer.

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adrians_s13 wrote:get wheels that don't require such thick spacers loljk
Lol... I do already. Imma rock these bishes till the tires ain't no good no more (triple negative! lol)I got 16x8.5+27's with plans to also get 17x9+25's...The wheels in use right now suck. Got them years ago, before I learned about proper wheel sizes. 17x7.5 (+37 I think).

I think I'm gonna abandon the whole double spacer idea. When you think about it, its just like putting on a 10mm spacer without extended studs, which ain't a good plan.

After some googling, I think I've found that the stock stud length is 50mm. I figure if I grab some 40mm studs they should fit flush with the spacer and be much safer than the previous ideas.

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simmode1 wrote:After some googling, I think I've found that the stock stud length is 50mm. I figure if I grab some 40mm studs they should fit flush with the spacer and be much safer than the previous ideas.
Just make sure to get studs with right knurl. Otherwise, you will mess up the hub.

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Yeah, exactly. Been there before. Stupid Autozone...


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