Need some S14 help/advice

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96_240sxSE
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I currently have the following: 1996 S14 (Nissan 240sx) 5 Spoke Alloy Wheels (SE Model) 16x6.5 with a 40mm offset Price Range = roughly $1,300 (wheels) Use = mainly for street (daily driver)

I went to the link for the “wheel offset calculator” and got the following results after putting the wheel width of 8.5” with an offset of 35mm (for an 18“ ADR M-Sport wheel):The clearance from strut housing to the inside of the wheel will be 20mm LESSThe outside edge of the wheel will EXTEND an extra 30mm

There was a warning to make sure “strut housing-to-wheel clearance is not significantly reduced”. Based on the calculation above, my clearance will be 20mm LESS. What amount of reduction is considered to be “significant”?

As for a tire, I was hoping to put 225-40’s all around.

As for a suspension...I currently have the Koni/Sportline setup, but will be changing that to accomodate 18's. This brings up another question, or two: Do I really need to scrap my current suspension setup to accommodate the 18" wheel & tire package mentioned above? If so, are coilovers the only other option OR could I possibly just get a "not as low" set of springs to go with my Koni's?

I was also considering the Racing Hart wheel line. Any opinions on either the ADR or Racing Hart wheel lines would be most appreciated.

Thanks,Jun :help


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Exar-Kun
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you have roughly 10mm of total clearance from the stock wheels/tires to the strut, so ideally you want to keep that kind of clearance(IE the clearance form the strut housing to the hweel should be close to stock or less than "The clearance from strut housing to the inside of the wheel will be 10mm LESS")

you can run a 18x7.5 or 18x8 in a 30 or 35mm(jerome did something similar) with the 225-40-18 and it cleared..BARELY. it didnt clear coilovers though.

you would need at least a 30mm or less offset to run a 8.5" wide wheel, and if you're going to run such a wide wheel, run a wider tires, like a 245-35-18 or 235-35-18, so you at least utilize the additional wheel width.

also, with that large of a wheel, and low of an offset required to run it, you may have to run fender flares.-chetalso: thanks for reading the stickies!

96_240sxSE
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hey chet, lotsa thanks for all the info! i've definitely got some decision making to do as to whether to go 17's or 18's (and find a wheel combo that fits right). Jun

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no problem man, keep us posted on what you think you wanna do, feel free to pop me off an e-mail if you got another question, or post it here.-chet

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hey chet!

i have to admit...i read a few of the stickies; a few of the posts; but i feel as if the "wheel offset" subject has not completely sunken in yet. :confused: so, i have a few more questions for you and i do apologize in advance if these are "no brainer" questions.

Quote »you have roughly 10mm of total clearance from the stock wheels/tires to the strut, so ideally you want to keep that kind of clearance(IE the clearance form the strut housing to the hweel should be close to stock or less than "The clearance from strut housing to the inside of the wheel will be 10mm LESS")[/quote]does this mean that when i use the wheel offset calculator...it would be preferred that the clearance from the strut to the wheel be the "same" as the stock or at least "no greater" than 10mm "less"? if it's greater than 10mm, does that mean the wheels may not clear the suspension?my current suspension is the Koni/Eibach Sportline setup. does this affect the calculation in any way?

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no, that is an oem sized suspension setup, and yes you have the general idea...

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*whew* thanks main! :D

i feel like i'm sorta getting it now. let's hope this partial understanding will help me narrow down all my choices in wheels to just one, so i can buy a new set of wheels already!!

anyone have an opinion as to the following wheel brands:

ADR (M-Sport), Racing Hart (C2evo or C4), Volk (GT-A or GT-N)

I was trying to find the best "bang for my buck" w/o having to mortgage the farm unless necessary. I'm leaning towards the Volk's, but mainly because they have a variety of offsets. just curious...

Jun :help

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ADR/Golden Apple has been building good quality wheels, round, minimal runout... all at a good price.(compared to it's competition)

RH builds higher quality wheels, at a higher price.

Volk is the weekend racer standard, no matter the hype. A true bombproof wheel brand. Volk seeks the customer who wants indestructible road wheels that are strong enough for race-spec/regs. I see nothing but pure mechanical beauty in the "form follows function" style of the popular TE37, and it's variants.

A simple offset diagram, brought to us by our friends at tirerack....

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hehe, I already have that picture in the FAQ smith :pits a great one, isnt it?

-chet

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sorry to snag this post, but i have a (maybe a noobie) question?exar-kun:Quote »you have roughly 10mm of total clearance from the stock wheels/tires to the strut, so ideally you want to keep that kind of clearance(IE the clearance form the strut housing to the hweel should be close to stock or less than "The clearance from strut housing to the inside of the wheel will be 10mm LESS")

you can run a 18x7.5 or 18x8 in a 30 or 35mm(jerome did something similar) with the 225-40-18 and it cleared..BARELY. it didnt clear coilovers though.[/quote]i have a 95 240 sx se.....the stock strut housing seems to be quite larger than my tein HE's...is there something i'm missing or don't see?

and when i use the offset calculator, is the # something i have to go and actually go underneath and measure?

and 240sxse good luck and keep us posted...i'm looking towards the gramlights 57F or the 5zigens FN-01r

thanks for any info.....

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definately , with coilovers, keep the clearance from wheel-to-strut stock or more than stock, if possible...although you can reduce it by 8mm or so if you*have to* depending on camber and tire size, etc.

the upper strut/spring perch is larger than the coilover, but thats not what willl rub, its the damper body(the thin part beloew the spring perch), and this is where a coilover is larger than the stock suspension setup.

if you search around, I recently discussed this with a guy, but if you need further information I can help..-chet

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thanks for the info...it makes sense now.i'll definately do some more searching.....


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