Need some options, $14,292 out the door for a 1.8 Base? First Dealer Visit

[aidan80]

I’ve visited my first dealer hoping they wouldn’t act like a bunch of jackals and that’s what they felt like. Not that pushy but they did want a sale and I understand we all have to eat.

I was offered an out the door price of $14,292 for a 1.8 basic, manual transmission, manual windows it did have the mats and no ABS! I can’t help but feel violated $14,292 all in seems high for the basics? I’m now going back via email to each dealer and saying give me your price in print and include everything in that price as the price I’d pay so I don’t have to run around anymore! I just want a car!!..

[Andries]

2009? Seems about close to me.

[aidan80]

2009? Seems about close to me.

Yes it's a 2009 hatchback, blue, really reallynice car. Had to drag myself out the door and into my now 11 year old car so I could clear my mind and think about it for a minute as it felt like I wasn't getting that much of a deal.

It's like getting blood from stone with these dealers. Their more slippery than a couple of politicians!

[aidan80]

I forgot to mention the base price of the car the sticker on the window price was $13,805 including the $720 destination charge. They took that $13,805 then added to that a $1,250 discount telling me my sticker price was really $15,055 but they “had to by law add it, for tax"?

They took the base price included the “discount” then added up everything else, dealer fee.. etc (is it really $200 to transfer a tag in Florida?) then at the end after everything was added up they took away that discount leaving the total price of $14,292 including the 3 T’s. I know now my math isn’t adding up because I can’t follow exactly everything these people have done. I have the feeling they just tried to inflate the base price as much as possible so they could make the final price appear like a deal? Am I wrong here or being too cautious with these people or they taking me for a “ride” lol

All of this is giving me a sore head thinking about it!!

[steed77]

I’ve visited my first dealer hoping they wouldn’t act like a bunch of jackals and that’s what they felt like. Not that pushy but they did want a sale and I understand we all have to eat.

I was offered an out the door price of $14,292 for a 1.8 basic, manual transmission, manual windows it did have the mats and no ABS! I can’t help but feel violated $14,292 all in seems high for the basics?

OK I can play some numbers here. I have an 09 1.8 sedan, manual, A/C, Mats, Crank windows, no power locks, no ABS... just a single CD. I paid 7200.00 OUT THE DOOR. The was during the Cash for Clunkers time and rebates. 7200 + 4500(C4C) = 11,700 TAX, TAGS, etc...so to me it looks like the deal is not that great.

Looking at the local incentives here.. looks to be a $1250 rebate( $1250 Customer Retail Cash may not be combined with 0.00% APR - 1.90 % APR) and 500 if you have any collage ($500 College Grad Bonus Cash program) AND ($1,000 Targeted Trade Assistance Bonus Cash is available to customers towards purchase or lease who trade in a 2004 or newer Buick or GM)

Check out this site for deals http://www.edmunds.com/incenti...issan

All this is stack-able, so work your best deal OTD(Out The Door). Good luck.

[aidan80]

Thanks I checked out that site. It looks like the price I have been given vs that site is about $400 or so more than the site and that included the $1,250 rebate. $14,292 does feel a bit high I had the other dealer quote me $14,400 out the door same car only with an auto transmission. I'll see what the others bring back tomorrow and make a decision then. I might just wait till near the very last day of the month before doing anything. I can easily wait until December if I think I'll get a bit more off!

[steed77]

Good luck... also check out Ebayhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors....m245

There are Tons available... some will include free shipping or a free Flight to get the car. Also the car is new... who cares where it comes from. It will still have full warranty.

There seem to be TONS of them in the VA/DC/MD area here. Maybe that is why I got a great deal.

[aidan80]

Good luck... also check out Ebayhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors....m245

There are Tons available... some will include free shipping or a free Flight to get the car. Also the car is new... who cares where it comes from. It will still have full warranty.

There seem to be TONS of them in the VA/DC/MD area here. Maybe that is why I got a great deal.

Thanks I'll check them out see whats out there!

[frankoV]

They are smelling blood -- that's all I can say.

A 2010 configured your way [plain jane] is $13,870 MSRP inc destination fee.

And while I am too far away to know for sure, that "include the discount in the pre-tax price" seems bogus to me -- I think they're bumping it up to pocket the extra tax.

You're in the drivers seat [even if it is a beater] -- don't be rushed -- let them know that you are interested but . . . [shrug of shoulders] . . . you can keep driving what you've got. But DON'T keep going back -- they'll know you are hooked.

Why not talk to the dealer with the auto and tell him to find you a car with MT and say you'll buy at $13,400 out the door [AT costs $1,000; he'll get a couple of bucks from the lack of tax paid].

Good luck!

[aidan80]

They are smelling blood -- that's all I can say.

A 2010 configured your way [plain jane] is $13,870 MSRP inc destination fee.

And while I am too far away to know for sure, that "include the discount in the pre-tax price" seems bogus to me -- I think they're bumping it up to pocket the extra tax.

You're in the drivers seat [even if it is a beater] -- don't be rushed -- let them know that you are interested but . . . [shrug of shoulders] . . . you can keep driving what you've got. But DON'T keep going back -- they'll know you are hooked.

Why not talk to the dealer with the auto and tell him to find you a car with MT and say you'll buy at $13,400 out the door [AT costs $1,000; he'll get a couple of bucks from the lack of tax paid].

Good luck!

Your right they are starting to circle the carcass on the side of the road.. just waiting until it’s ripe!

$13,870 for a 2010.. Maybe I have made some progress then? $14,292 including tax, title, tag, dealer fee’s..etc all in seems almost decent? I agree I think they are pushing it up with the discount to take an extra cut. I may just hold out see if they start drooling closer to the 30th lol! What I’d like to do is push them under $14 and into the $13’s now then they do have a deal worth taking!

I’m not allowing myself to be rushed which is why I left that dealership today they were all ready to do the credit and take a deposit lol. These people would make great politicians or recruiters for the military lol I’m still talking to the dealer with the auto at close to the same money. He was trying to push me to come in for “extra savings” but I’ve refused and he’s emailing back quite a bit! Turns out in the fine print his original offer at $13,400 was junk he didn’t include certain fees the real offer from him is $14,600. These people are impossible to get a straight answer outta!

On another note I tried to apply for financing to see what rate I’d get and of course I got a page not found grr when I did it online.. now I’ll have to phone it in so I don’t end up running more than one check on my credit file. Thinking I’ll check rates outside the dealer then inside to see which is best. As I’m taking the $1250 I won’t get the low interest which if I figured it right over a 36 month period it doesn’t save much more than the $1250. Once I’m approved to finance this car I need to sell the other one ASAP and try to setup a smooth change over while I’ve got tags on both lol. It'd be perfect if I got around $2,000 for the other car and laid that down along with some savings as my deposit then loan the rest of the price.

[aidan80]

Those dealers smell blood alright.. I just got a quote in wrighting from a dealer with a full breakdown of everything and I've questioned every item... $13,822.48 out the door everything is included, tax, title, tag, dealer fee's! Now I need some cash!!