Need Opinions from the clutch experts!! :P Need Fast response!!

[MiiLaNo]

So here's the deal, my friend just bought a Z and he wants to upgrade the clutch since its basically all fried. But the problem is, he's on a short buget since he got some other cosmetical damages that he needs to fix. So he wants Clutch AND FLYWHEEL so I promised him to do my best and told him about you guys might be a great help. I did some search and came down to these two brands and the with STAGE 2 or STAGE 3. I just dont know which one would be best or if it would be worth it at all? His car is at the shop which is going to do the work, so I really need to get a quick answer!!

Any one with any experience or ideas??

I would appreciate all help I can get!

XTD CLUTCH+FLYWHEEL STAGE 2

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

F1 CLUTCH+FLYWHEEL STAGE 2

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

Or....

XTD CLUTCH+FLYWHEEL STAGE 3

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

F1 CLUTCH+FLYWHEEL STAGE 3

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

Or if the Exedy one is any good??

EXEDY CLUTCH PROLITE RACING FLYWHEEL

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

BTW His car is stock, and is not planning to get heavily modded, but just simply wants the best clutch+flywheel for that application!

[BigTDogg (MA)]

TT or NA?

[evildky]

no personal experience but I've heard the f1 and xtd are both junk, exedy is supposed to be decent, me I like competition clutches, they were the only one that could hold in my 240z, check the link in my sig for lots of other good prices on quality brand name clutches and flywheels

[clickdoc]

i hate put my two cents n here but please don't buy parts for a Z on ebay -- you will hate your decision later when it doesn't last and it will not improve performance -- go to import parts pro and and buy a lightened flywheel and RPS clutch -- you will gain horespower and it will last -- never go cheap on a fairlady

[BigTDogg (MA)]

i hate put my two cents n here but please don't buy parts for a Z on ebay -- you will hate your decision later when it doesn't last and it will not improve performance -- go to import parts pro and and buy a lightened flywheel and RPS clutch -- you will gain horespower and it will last -- never go cheap on a fairlady

That's

If it's an NA, he can get away with an OEM clutch. If it's a TT, RPS and JWT make good clutches, and RPS and Fidanza make good flywheels. Z's and eBay don't mix.

[nsrZ32]

Just say no to ebay junk. Buy quality parts and only buy them once.

[Zwicked]

If budget is the operative word, I still wouldn't buy an eBay clutch. Some items from auctions are fine, but some aren't worth the risk.I put an RPS Sport Street in mine with a new TO bearing and pilot bushing and also had the flywheel resurfaced. It holds without slipping no matter how hard I dump the clutch.This is probably the least expensive option and retains good quality. It only cost $20 more than a factory Nissan clutch.Even for a completely stock engine, I'd still put a better than stock clutch in.Next time I'd probably get the light segmented flywheel as well, but no complaints as it is.

[MiiLaNo]

TT or NA?

Its TT it got 170k on it.

Just say no to ebay junk. Buy quality parts and only buy them once.

yea that's what I told him too, but he's new to this thing, haha and personally Im not that experienced with ebay products!

If budget is the operative word, I still wouldn't buy an eBay clutch. Some items from auctions are fine, but some aren't worth the risk.I put an RPS Sport Street in mine with a new TO bearing and pilot bushing and also had the flywheel resurfaced. It holds without slipping no matter how hard I dump the clutch.This is probably the least expensive option and retains good quality. It only cost $20 more than a factory Nissan clutch.Even for a completely stock engine, I'd still put a better than stock clutch in.Next time I'd probably get the light segmented flywheel as well, but no complaints as it is.

so you have the stock flywheel in place, but just resurfaced? because it feels like his is all shattered since theres a huge loss in torque and acceleration!

so let me put it this way. if you had a budget of $500 for clutch parts including flywheel. What would you guys pick?

The shop where the car is at. said they can custom build a whole clutch kit (ceramic) and a flywheel for about that price. Is custom made clutches and flywheels dependable??

The car is going to be there for the weekend anyways so it gives me some time to find something for him.

If this was your car and bugdet, tell me what you would buy to gain the most from a STOCK TT!

BTW preciate the fast response guys. Thank you!

[MiiLaNo]

So I found a great link with the RPS Sports Clutch for $350 which is a really good deal! (http://turboimport.com/catalog/300zx.htm) but then how about the flywheel? remember he is on a low budget! I would recommend the RPS CYN-R-G segmented but its $425! I have the fidanza one (T6 aluminum) but I dont feel anything different from before my clutch uprgrades. Does it really make any better in performance by upgrading these if your car is stock? Would it make a huge difference with a lightweight? or is he just better off, getting the RPS CLUTCH and the Flywheel resurfaced, or just a new OEM STOCK flywheel? would that do good?

[BigTDogg (MA)]

So I found a great link with the RPS Sports Clutch for $350 which is a really good deal! (http://turboimport.com/catalog/300zx.htm) but then how about the flywheel? remember he is on a low budget! I would recommend the RPS CYN-R-G segmented but its $425! I have the fidanza one (T6 aluminum) but I dont feel anything different from before my clutch uprgrades. Does it really make any better in performance by upgrading these if your car is stock?

Here's the dillyo:

I've had the following clutches in my car, with the corresponding flywheels:

RPS Sport 6-puck/JUN Cro-MoJWT TT Street clutch/ Fidanza ALRPS Sport disc/ RPS Segmented

You'll notice a difference with a lightened flywheel. Not in clutch operation, but in how quickly the engine speed falls off when the clutch is disengaged. This quicker response, coupled with a short shifter, allows quicker gear changes, for faster acceleration and better overall response. This is further compounded with a UR underdrive crank pulley.

If $500 is his budget, I'm sorry to say he won't find a clutch/flywheel combo for that much anywhere. At least not one worthy of a TT. I personally wouldn't get a "custom" set up from the shop. I'd get a JWT or RPS street disc, and resurface the stock TT flywheel. No need to buy a new one, but make sure they turn it to spec, with the 0.008" step, as shown below:



He may also be able to find a Fidanza or RPS flywheel used for a good price. Fidanza and RPS both have inserts which can be replaced. JUN can be resurfaced once, maybe twice. 6-puck and JUN together is a bad combo.

Take the extra money and sink it into the next mod. Don't forget to get a needle bearing/pilot bushing, rear main seal, and have them check the coolant lines going to the turbos on the back of the motor. At 170k, if they haven't leaked yet, its a matter of days before they do, IME.

[MiiLaNo]

heey Thanks for the help BigTDogg, that was really some useable info!

I dont think he really need a lightflywheel now ( he can barely drive stick haha) so as you said, he's better off saving the money for uprgrades or MAINTAINANCE! I believe he does have a leak! so before getting the cars performance better, lets just get it restored to normal! I told him that and he agreed on it.

Also the Spec 0.008" is very good thank you, I let them know that!

His clutch kit includes bearing/pilot bushing so its not neccasary to buy another one is it?

so this is wut we came down to:



what do you think?

[BigTDogg (MA)]

The bearing included is the throw out bearing. The list looks great :-)

[MiiLaNo]

ohh okaaay, so I added the Nismo Roller Bearing Pilot Bushing!

this should be good for him, since the only benifit he would get with the flywheel would prob be the revving and response. and honestly, when he get the money straight, he can just get a boost controller and upgraded intercooler and he get the power out of there for less cost, since doesnt need to drop the transmission again!

you've been a great help! thank you!