NEED INFORMATION ON S20 ENGINE FOR 240SX

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I live in Miami, FL and im about to buy a 1992 240SX

Ive been reading alot about the s20 engine swap

Do 240SX's not come stock with s20?

and what are the differences between s13 and s20 for the 240SX

When I get the 240SX im planning on sport tuning it so I need as much information on the s20 engine swap and information on the stock s13 beacuse I want to upgrade the right one and not waste money on upgrading the wrong engine

PLEASE HELP!!! VERY CONFUSED!!


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if only I had a quarter every time I hear the same question asked

you really shoudl do some search since it has been covered like 89374328748924 times

s13, s14 s15 is chassis code, some places call it 180sx, 200sx and 240sx based on the displacement of the motor, ca18det, sr20det, ka24de

before someone jump on the thread and say "go ka-t" "rb" or "yeah sr!" you should raelly decide for yourself and you can start by doing some searchs on the following key wordska-trb20rb25rb26sr20det

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Moved to another fourm

Fred..

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Somebody might also want to mention to this guy that he is looking for the SR20, not the S20.

Especially since both are real engines. But the S20 is ULTRA rare, and makes less power anyway.

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alright alright I feel stupid enough for asking that question now but hey , I dont know much about the 240SX, thats why I came here

Ive been reading some threads and I got another question

Does a 92 240SX come stock with a Ka24De, if it doesnt, what does it come with stock?

Im just planning on building on the stock engine if its the Ka24De instead of getting a SR20, correct me if im wrong but ive heard its cheaper and the Ka24De has more torque than the SR20

But im still not fully sure with engine to go with so please help me with that

-Jonathan

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search for the ka vs sr threads

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thanks :-)

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http://www.driftkat.com/

Start there. That gives a wealth of basic info on the 240SX in stock form.

Couple quetions for you Z_Ro_01.- How many miles are on the 240SX?- I hate to sound presumptious, but you seem young, like High School young. I admit I may be wrong, but am I correct?

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Thanks for the web site :-)

I dont know how many miles are on my 240SX beacuse im about to buy one, im looking at several ranging from 125k to 145k, but which one I get all depends on the price

Yes your right, unfortunately, I am in high school, but I am a mechanic also, Ive been working on cars since I was 7 and driving since I was 9. It might not seem like I am an experienced mechanic beacuse of the lack of knowledge im showing for this car, but I havent worked with Nissan much, Ive worked more on European makes (Mercedes-Benz, BMW, etc..)

In general, I hope im not wasting everyones time by asking these simple questions, but again my knowledge of this make and model is poor.

Please keep in touch dfw240_EE, beacuse my questions for this car are just beginning

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please change your signature to something proper and mature, that'll match the level of this forum.

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Guys why not just give him some good links? Its a lot easier for a veteran memebr here to do a search than a newbie.The only link was for a differnt site..

We can do better...)

Fred..

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Thanks!

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the 1992 240sx came with the KA24DE motor. 2.4L DOHC - 155hp and 160ft-lbs of torque at the flywheel stock.

Me personally....i am a fan of the KA and its very stout bottom end and torquey nature.

Getting an SR swap or turboing the KA (if turbo is what you are looking to do) both cost about the same, so it really comes down to preference.

I would like to see what the KA is capable of in NA form once it is fully built, so i am going NA KA once i get the cash.

Other than that...Welcome to NICO!! there is a huge weath of knowledge to be had here, just remember though....the search button is your friend....

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Ah, you just sounded to me like you had near zero experience wtih cars in general, but that does not appear to be the case.

Yes, the 240SX is just a touch different than European makes. I have looked under the hood of some VW's before, and the way they lay things out is abit different.

Here is the Cliff's Notes lowdown:

1989 - 1994 models were called the "S13" Here is the breakup1989 - 1990 USDM (US Domestic Market) 240SX KA24E ~140HP1991 - 1994 USDM 240SX KA24DE ~155HPFor 1989 - 1993 the 240SX came in 2 body shapes. A coupe that had a definite trunk, and a fastback which had a roof that sloped into the tail. From 1992 - 1994 the coupe was available as a soft top convertable.For 1994, only the convertable existed.

1995-1998 were called "S14" and all came with the KA24DE ~155HP1995 and 1996 are referred to as "Zenki", and 1997 and 1998 are referred to as "Kouki". The only real difference is a change in headlight and taillight styling.

Note that nowhere in here was the 240SX equiped with the SR20DE engine. Also a lucky few 240SX's in America (1991 - 1998) got a Limited Slip Differential and Super Hicas four wheel steering.

Now for the Japanese market. People correct me if I am erroneous anywhere in here.Start with the S13 model. The S13 Coupe had a different set of headlights than ours and was called the "Silvia". The S13 Fastback is pretty much identical and was called the 180SX. In Japan the S13 Coupe was sold from 1988 to 1994 and the S13 Fastback was sold from 1988 to 1998.

For the JDM S13, the engine options were the CA18DE, CA18DET, SR20DE, and the SR20DET (where DE means twincam Fuel Injected with no turbo, DET means twincam Fuel Injected with turbo).

For the JDM S14, only the SR20DE and SR20DET were available (if the CA18DE was available for the S14, correct me)

Finally, the S15 was sold from 1999 to the end of production (don't know the year it ended). Same engine options as the S14. We never got this model in America.

This is a good FAQ on the SR20DET swap. It's a link from one of the NICO sponsors. (Phase 2 is still a sponsor, right) It's also a trustworthy place to buy your engine.http://www.store.yahoo.com/pha....html

Hope that helps. My AIM SN should be in my profile. Contact me if you wish, but I have been a touch busy as of late.

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my 2 cents... you my have been driving since you where nine but not aot.. unless for some reason you are a mad man... get the car and drive it.... have fun with it stock and learn all about how to control it... and upgrade what you need along the way... chances are you are not going to need the extra power s soon as you get the car.. i didn't when i got my 240... but as you grow as a driver you well learn what you need and not what is popular... but welcome to NICO

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Thank you everyone for the information, Belive me when I say it will come in handy

And you got the mad man part right, but I didnt drive all that much until I was 12 then I started driving alot, I know that I have more than 120miles of driving expierience, I mean when ever I get a chance to drive, I drive, You see, cars are literally my life, there rated number 1 on my list, right before women, beacuse from my experiences, a car is alot better to be with at certain times then women ,as crazy as that sounds. But yes your right, im not going to be pushing 200HP when I first get my car but my engine upgrades will come swiftly, beacuse I nesserally cant drive a car stock for to long of a time beacuse ive been around to many tuners to ever leave my car completly stock. But before I tune it in any way , Im going to learn how the car handles and its pros and cons in my view and all of that. But yes your also right that when you grow as a driver, Your car needs to grow with you. And im not going to go with whats popular, but rather im going to go with what I need to match my driving passion.

To kinda start a new topic without the hassle, What would be the best cat-back exhaust for the KA24DE and the KA24DE-T ( brand ) and also what would be the best size for the exhaust, ive heard that 3-3 1/2(inches) is the best bet for 250HP- 320HP, is that right??

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I still have the stock exhaust, but I have been drooling over the different exhausts for when I secure a job and finally do get one. Of all the exhausts I like the BRM best. They look great, sound great, and are high quality. To boot, BRM is a NICO sponsor. Ask AZHitman on here for more info.

Edit: Oh, and yes 3-3.5" is probably about right for a turbo, but the exact number may be slightly different depending on your setup.

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Thank you for the info on the exhaust

Sorry that I haven't posted in a while, I just moved down to Weston, Fl (F.Y.I about half an hour north of Miami) So moving and everything has took up my time.

I dont have an exact question right now, but keep checking up every now and then.

...Now back to organizing my damn apartment


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