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can you tell me who sells the jgs im gonna scope out egay. god i hate that site.
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ok i ve used the big red blinking thing called SEARCH. im not having any luck finding what im looking for.i have a 90 model 240. 200 k miles on it. first off i know i have to rebuild the engine. i plan on installing a new rotating assembley. around 8.5:1 maybe as high as 9.0:1. i will port and polish the head and intake runners.i have all the info i need except where to find the exh. manifold. im not building a drag car im wanting something around 250-300 horse power. i plan on a piggy back not sure which one and 550 inj's. i am also going to eliminate the emissions canister, cat and anything else that gets in the way. i have found the controllers inj's, rotating assemley, etc... but what i need is->

who makes and/or sells a kit for the sohc. or is it some thing i am going to have to piece together???

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go to google and try jgs

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I will personally never buy a kit unless its from ebay, and even then I would still piece most of it and trash/sell what ever I didnt want from ebay. I think a couple kits do exist just not so plentiful as the dual cam.

If you dont have to have new everything people have used stuff everywhere! A local guy has two manifolds for sale.(jax florida) not sure what he wants for em. 240sx.net

anywho piecing a kit is way cheaper, ebay kits are cheap PERIOD the thread named cheap chinese turbo kits comes in handy if you decide ebay, but note I have heard more bad than good about the turbos, I have an ebay mani now and every other one I've had was too, one t25(I was 3rd owner/user),2 t3 manis one unknown held up great minus one runner weld was shady and cracked a little a wreck killed it a few days after re installing it, had excellent fitment. Lastly the one I am using is a turbo xs or some ebay crap one of the 200$ ones(glad I traded for some injectors), fitment is shyt but the welds and material appear MUCH better...

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i could care less if the turbo is junk. i work as a diesel shop and rebuilding turbo's and blowers is a daily occurance. if the naini is in dedescent condition. i have got plenty of time to look around. probably wont start the build for about 10 months. right now its the daily driver. i have looked in the cheap egay thread i wanna to use a reputable company for the parts. for quality and bragging rights. but i dont want it to look hacked to shyt and back. heres is a good idead of what im looking for.(see link) as far as looks. but what i need to know is how much boost is safe im thinking i should be able to go to ten psi. but if have to figure what the afr needs to be cuz im paranoid about burning up a motor with over a grand in the ratating assembley and block. yes i am still hitting the stickies ,faq's,and most important search.

http://www.240sx.org/links/ins...2.htm

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If you plan to boost a ka you need to purchase something to watch afr, I am not a believer in letting a couple dyno runs decide the life of my motor, the first 3 things to buy, wide band afr monitor/gauge/walbro/300zx filter but thats my opinion... all you can install now and without ill effect before you boost.

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the gages i am gonnna run are pyrometer.afr,boost and fuel psi. am i missing anything? so other than the above these are the plans:turbonetics t03/04 hybrid kit including inj's $3300apexi exhaust $551je pistons $500give or takeeagle rods $290 for a grand total $4700. thats doing the labor myself. plus gages and little nic nacs like clamps hoses etc... thats also no clutch or diff work. all name brand stuf so egay is starting to sound really good.

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scratch the turbonetics kit, piece together you own and you should come in cheaper.

also note just cause your motor has high mileage does not mean you cannot boost it, so long as its running good. I would do a compression test and if it panned out I'd boost it. But I have bought and boosted two blind motors.... both for one dollar less than the apexi exhaust you're gonna buy point of that is mileage is not important if the motor is healthy. If your goals are only 200~300hp then you dont need pistons/rods. However they would be nice.... I see alot of overkill builds on the net and the people dotn have plans for over 475whp, all I know is a guy in florida made 524or something on a stock block/head/piston/rod setup another guy even closer makes 330ish daily,another local guy makes probably low to mid 300 all on stock ish. If you keep fuel and timing under control you are in control. and the limits are limitless

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i know my compression is good across the board. last time i checked it, it was 165 give or take 3-5 psi between the cyl. dont remember. when i checked it weet it wen about 15# higher. i know thats fine what worrries me internally is when i had the head off to replace the freeze plug in the back of it. i saw the cylinders. the top of the stroke there is a huge ridge on all of the cyl's also before and after i already have crank case pressure from blow by. yes i have change he pvc valve. this is my daily driver so if im gonna put that kind of $ in it. i cant afford for it to fail. and ive been looking for some used stuff in the classified adds. ive got a couple of turbos that are rebuildable but they will not fit this car. they come off a high cubic inch diesel. i dont know any one who would use any thing that big around here. they will sustain about 40 -60 pound of boost. that will blow the head clean off.hahahaha if you come across any thing letme know. keep in mind i am doing the research for late next year befor i start this project. if i can get little bit by lil bit i might be able to do it sooner. if i have the parts on hand i should be able to get-r-dun in bout a week. if i take vacation for it.....damn im long winded sorryhahahaha

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trying to decipher

that ridge is from the piston rings are that far down the piston, that is where they stop.

not to familiar with the sohc anymore but even numbers is good. If done safely I would boost it, tuned ecu with a nice set of injectors. But again I boost unknown mileage motors that cost 150bux.

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the ridge is at the top of the sleeve. you gotta let me in on the 150 boost set up. i still dont think the engine can handle any boost with out at least piston rings.maybe pistons.

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BUMP.....BUMP

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JGS kit for the win. The Chinese eBay kits are worth exactly what you pay for them. The bottom mount manifold is decent, but the T2 flanges turbo is to friggin small for the KA. Definitely to small for the 300whp range. Low boost, maybe...but even then you have to buy a new turbo. The Chinese units can't be easily rebuilt. The materials are crap and they are unbalanced. When they fail it's usually so bad they are beyond repair.

The eBay FMIC kits however are the best way to go. I say use eBay for the piping and FMIC and use JGS for the turbo/mani/downpipe/oil lines. That's probably the best advice you're going to get as far as the KA24E is concerned. Don't go cheap, you'll be pissed at yourself later.

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wd, as i said earlier i got alot of blow by, my compression is suprisingly good though do i have to go ineternal? i have been building engines for a long time. but all the gas engines ive built have been naturally asperated. i know diesel engines as well. all but a couple are boosted.. the rest are natural or blown. but as far as gas and diesel. two different critters. 24e is kinda like the red headed step child it seems like.

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yeah cause its so f***ing bad a**.

lol you are right it did kinda get the short end of the stick, but it only ran 2 years in the s chassis....

the de got all the attention as far as aftermarket support.

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The KA24E does have less support but it's kind of better in some ways.

You can get MSD injectors I believe, which are much cheaper and more plentiful in different sizes. The KA24E uses a top-feed fuel, right?

And you pickup the JGS kit, an eBay I/C setup and an exhaust and you're good to go.

If you blow the motor, you can find KA24Es on the real cheap, or upgrade the DE then.

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ok why is this not showing up on my recent topics???

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Jgs sells the jgs kits Go to google and type jgs.lol i hate repeating myself.... I find this icon kinda racist...lol

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yeah single slammer guys are lucky, 460cc rx7 injectors a plentiful and cheap, I see them go for 50 bux with resistor box local all the time. But aftermarket failed or the crowd came in too late to support the kae world. Funny with all the trucks that sported the E not many mods came from it, must be a good engine in stock trim

or if you weld or know someone who does, look up the "el cheapo turbo" on here a guy hacked up his sohc mani and made it into a turbo mani.

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cool mybuddy has a bunch of rx7 parts from his race car. ill see if those fit thanks man.

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injectors should work fine , get a resistor box.

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what is a register box ..... some of this is still new to me

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it has to do with the injectors, some(well most lol) top feed injectors are low ohm, while the nissan ecu needs them to be high ohm. The resistor increase resistance to allow you to use them.

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i think ill stay with ka injectors i am on a budget. i dont think i need the extra parts that can fail.

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ok so i went googling and about 30 pages in i have found a kit from....... wait for it ....... no not ebay. but cxracing they have a kit that can run on stock internals with fmic all piping turbo etc... has anyone heard of this. its reasonablely priced and i like the way the header is made. it is stainless and has support for the turbo. i am waiting to hear back from the to find out who make the turbo for all i know its junk.

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its a sohc , call jgs, pricey but worth it as you can put the turbo where you want... and its beefier than ebay stuff.

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jgs is expensive but i dont like the log type mani. plus i only want to buy one mani. the only thing im gonna change iss the turbo. ball bearing.then get a tune right now im gonna replace the injector pistons and head now that it overheated on my way to work monday. so if im gonna pull the head i might as well put pistons in it at least.rods should be straight. probably replace bearings to .but thats another thread.


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