mechanicalmoron wrote:It's like you drive a checkerboard....

You could always keep it like that, put huge chessmen on the headlights, and hit the art car scene.... no SR or coils needed.

I told you I didn't do that. The person I bought it from did. That won't be like that soon.

simmode1 wrote:If it were me though guys, I'd be ordering XXR's ner CCW replicas, the 531's.

17x9+25 fronts and 17x10+20 rears. 4 lug, cheap, beautiful and they only weigh 20 lbs.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNvQdCIthW0[/youtube]
Ballin' on a budget.

Those are nice. I'm going to look into those what about the 535? And question why would you want wider tires I'm new to the wheel game. I know it gives you a new look but what about performance? Drifting the 1/4 mile what are the gains in those areas.

You want wider tires because they DON'T drift. If you want to drift, get little cheap narrow used tires on little cheap narrow used rims.

-edit-or, if you're rich, listen to simmode

Iball20 wrote: And question why would you want wider tires?

I think I'm done here.

simmode1 wrote:

Iball20 wrote: And question why would you want wider tires?

I think I'm done here.

Don't be I'm new to all of this.

Tires are without a doubt the single most important part on your car to go fast with. They are the only part that actually touches the ground and provides the traction to move you forwards. Or in most of our cases, sideways. The more tire you have, the more traction you have. The more traction you have, the more control you have over your car (in most cases).

Many beginners drifters may used stretched 205 or 215 width tires because their underpowered engines will have a hard time breaking traction & spinning wider tires. But these 205 or 215 width tires will still provide greater traction and control than thinner OEM width 195 tires of a similar compound.

It's difficult to quote the gains achieved from wider, stickier rubber since no one has an identical setup around here. But generally speaking: Wider is better. In basically, every form of motorsport, wider tires are used to put the engine's power down to the ground and keep the car under control. But drifting does require a delicate balance between having control & being able to break traction.

You said you're going SR, right? If you go with the XXR 531 and you wanna do the whole 'stanced drifter' looking thing, you'll want to mount 215/40/17 tires on the 17x9's and 235/40/17 tires on the 17x10's. SR's should be able to spin 235 rears pretty easy as long as you don't get some expensive, sticky tire compound.

If you jump straight from stock 195 width tires to something like a 235 with tire, you will gain roughly 40mm more rubber & traction to put your power down to the ground. That's over an inch. Which will be a serious performance gain.

As for my opinion on the XXR 535's? Love' em. Do 17x9.75+20 with 235/40/17 all round. Will need spacers to clear most front coilovers.

simmode1 wrote:Tires are without a doubt the single most important part on your car to go fast with. They are the only part that actually touches the ground and provides the traction to move you forwards. Or in most of our cases, sideways. The more tire you have, the more traction you have. The more traction you have, the more control you have over your car (in most cases).

Many beginners drifters may used stretched 205 or 215 width tires because their underpowered engines will have a hard time breaking traction & spinning wider tires. But these 205 or 215 width tires will still provide greater traction and control than thinner OEM width 195 tires of a similar compound.

It's difficult to quote the gains achieved from wider, stickier rubber since no one has an identical setup around here. But generally speaking: Wider is better. In basically, every form of motorsport, wider tires are used to put the engine's power down to the ground and keep the car under control. But drifting does require a delicate balance between having control & being able to break traction.

You said you're going SR, right? If you go with the XXR 531 and you wanna do the whole 'stanced drifter' looking thing, you'll want to mount 215/40/17 tires on the 17x9's and 235/40/17 tires on the 17x10's. SR's should be able to spin 235 rears pretty easy as long as you don't get some expensive, sticky tire compound.

If you jump straight from stock 195 width tires to something like a 235 with tire, you will gain roughly 40mm more rubber & traction to put your power down to the ground. That's over an inch. Which will be a serious performance gain.

As for my opinion on the XXR 535's? Love' em. Do 17x9.75+20 with 235/40/17 all round. Will need spacers to clear most front coilovers.

OH ok i understand sorry for asking a newb question but yes i am going Sr route im about to get it out the shop very soon then im getting my car one color and then coils so i have time to decide on which rim. but those are my favorite i like how deep the 531 are but i like the concave of the 535. my friend has work emotion kai on his skyline

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These are the wheels/tires I got for the car. I've only gotten them installed on the rear at this point. So far, I've got plenty of clearance without having to use spacers. I'll post more pictures and the discuss the front ones in the next day or two when I install them.

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These are the wheels/tires I got for the car. I've only gotten them installed on the rear at this point. So far, I've got plenty of clearance without having to use spacers. I'll post more pictures and the discuss the front ones in the next day or two when I install them.

Those are nice.

^^^Fail for not getting SBC RP03's.


Fail x2 at being helpful because the OP needs 4 lug wheels & RP03 don't come in any good 4 lug sizes.

Definitely a wheel worth going 5 lug for though as long as you get the 17x10 SBC RP03's...

But the 17x9.75 535 XXR's will be waaaay more concave than the Enkei RP03's, weigh about the same, be available in 4x114.3 and cost waaay less.


Look at all that concavity!


The only cheap 5 spoke concave 4 lug wheel I like more are the Nismo LM-GT4 replica Rota P45R's:



That is a classic & timeless look right there. Never gets old, IMO.

Yeah, SBC would've been nice, I'll admit.

Also, I was only putting up so OP could get an idea of the sizes. Not necessarily suggesting these wheels.

simmode1 wrote:^^^Fail for not getting SBC RP03's.


Fail x2 at being helpful because the OP needs 4 lug wheels & RP03 don't come in any good 4 lug sizes.

Definitely a wheel worth going 5 lug for though as long as you get the 17x10 SBC RP03's...

But the 17x9.75 535 XXR's will be waaaay more concave than the Enkei RP03's, weigh about the same, be available in 4x114.3 and cost waaay less.


Look at all that concavity!


The only cheap 5 spoke concave 4 lug wheel I like more are the Nismo LM-GT4 replica Rota P45R's:



That is a classic & timeless look right there. Never gets old, IMO.

im loving the 535 i like how the concave looks but im really feeling the 531. now i cant decide damn you sim!!! haha now you gotta help me choose haha

AntonioG wrote:Yeah, SBC would've been nice, I'll admit.

Also, I was only putting up so OP could get an idea of the sizes. Not necessarily suggesting these wheels.

yeah man sbc all the way and its all good i understood what you were doing.

AntonioG wrote:Yeah, SBC would've been nice, I'll admit.

Also, I was only putting up so OP could get an idea of the sizes. Not necessarily suggesting these wheels.

Well, what sizes did you get? I didn't even see you list your wheel/tire specs...

simmode1 wrote:

AntonioG wrote:Yeah, SBC would've been nice, I'll admit.

Also, I was only putting up so OP could get an idea of the sizes. Not necessarily suggesting these wheels.

Well, what sizes did you get? I didn't even see you list your wheel/tire specs...

It's on the first page lol. I believe 17x8 235/45r17

^^^Oh. I must have ignored that post. It's a great wheel, but those aren't specs I would have picked.

Iball20 wrote:im loving the 535 i like how the concave looks but im really feeling the 531. now i cant decide damn you sim!!! haha now you gotta help me choose haha

Choose? Why bother choosing? XXR & Rota's are cheap as sh1t. Just get 'em all...

simmode1 wrote:^^^Oh. I must have ignored that post. It's a great wheel, but those aren't specs I would have picked.

Iball20 wrote:im loving the 535 i like how the concave looks but im really feeling the 531. now i cant decide damn you sim!!! haha now you gotta help me choose haha

Choose? Why bother choosing? XXR & Rota's are cheap as sh1t. Just get 'em all...

You see I would but!!! I'm working in a budget and in about to enter my freshman year of college. And plus I want to get my motor to about 300-350 before I splurge on wheels. So where you come in at is should I get the 535 or 531????

I would do suspension/wheels/tires first, but between those two wheels, I'd pick the 531's. No one has them on a 240 yet (that I know of) and their 17x10's can fit more rubber in the rear which will be helpful when you start making more power.

simmode1 wrote:I would do suspension/wheels/tires first, but between those two wheels, I'd pick the 531's. No one has them on a 240 yet (that I know of) and their 17x10's can fit more rubber in the rear which will be helpful when you start making more power.

Ok 531's it is then. Now I have to decide what color lol and as far as suspension goes I'm getting coils and wheels and tires before I make that much power. Is there any decent 4 lug brake upgrade. Can do?

Just save up for the Z32 brake upgrade. They make 4 lug rotors for it.
http://www.240sxmotoring.com/cispz32frbrr.html

There are lesser brake upgrades, but why bother?

What's dope about choosing the 531's is that if you start making some serious power, you can throw the 17x10's up front, convert only the rears the 5 lug and then buy two of the 18x11 531's for the rears.
Personally, I got ZERO problem running 4 lug up front and 5 lug in back. I prefer 17/18 setups on hatches but its hard to find inexpensive 18's that fit right in 4 lug. Plenty of good looking 17's in 4 lug though.

What else would I need to buy if I get the rotors? I don't know much about brakes besides the calipers and brake pads. And that sounds dope!

Everything you could possibly need to know about it:
how-to-ultimate-z32-brake-swap-w-lots-o ... 86360.html

Thanks man.

Hey sim would 16x8 look good?

Nope.

Didn't think so. I'm going 17x9 all around 215/40 right? Just to double check

Sounds good, depending on the offset.

But listen, man. All this stuff is just my opinion. I had 16x8.5 wheels and I thought their diameter looked too small for the S13's wheels wells. Hell, I thing 17's are just barely big enough for the wheel wells, but I still like 17's because they have much better tire choices than 16's and cheaper tires than 18's.

But it's my opinion that hatches looks best with 17's in the front and 18's in the back. Kinda like Corvette fitment... lol... For me, it has to do with the rear of the car being bigger, taller higher off the ground than the front. Hatches do this, but not so much on coupes.

I think 17's look great under front fenders for either the coupe or hatch. 17's look great under coupe rear fenders too. But under hatch rear's? 18's completely blow 17's away, IMO. But I feel the 18's are a tab too big for hatch front's. 18 all around look good on coupes though.

Really study those setups on http://www.Rimtuck.com, man. Maybe you'll see what I'm talking about and figure what precisely what you think looks best before you spend any money.

simmode1 wrote:Sounds good, depending on the offset.

But listen, man. All this stuff is just my opinion. I had 16x8.5 wheels and I thought their diameter looked too small for the S13's wheels wells. Hell, I thing 17's are just barely big enough for the wheel wells, but I still like 17's because they have much better tire choices than 16's and cheaper tires than 18's.

But it's my opinion that hatches looks best with 17's in the front and 18's in the back. Kinda like Corvette fitment... lol... For me, it has to do with the rear of the car being bigger, taller higher off the ground than the front. Hatches do this, but not so much on coupes.

I think 17's look great under front fenders for either the coupe or hatch. 17's look great under coupe rear fenders too. But under hatch rear's? 18's completely blow 17's away, IMO. But I feel the 18's are a tab too big for hatch front's. 18 all around look good on coupes though.

Really study those setups on http://www.Rimtuck.com, man. Maybe you'll see what I'm talking about and figure what precisely what you think looks best before you spend any money.

I have a white hatch se. There isn't a lot of 240s around my way and pictures can only do so much that's why I ask a lot sorry. I only bought 16 because they were cheaper but I love the look of fat tires in the back. So I'm just going to bite the bullet and get the 17x9 +25

17x9+25 might need spacers to clear coilovers. Just depends on what brand you have. Just a heads up. 7mm slip on spacer should be fine. 215/40 tires are a good bet.

simmode1 wrote:17x9+25 might need spacers to clear coilovers. Just depends on what brand you have. Just a heads up. 7mm slip on spacer should be fine. 215/40 tires are a good bet.

What's a 7mm slip? And all I have is lowering springs.