Need help on quality turbo kit

[dgraza1]

I have a ka24de engine that i am in the process of rebuilding. I am working on porting and polishing the head right now. In the meantime I have been looking at turbo kits for the Ka. I saw one for 750 on ebay that comes with a top mount but i am not sure how good the quality is. I want a kit that will produce a reliable 250-300hp to the ground. I really like the topmount they look cool any ideas let me know.

[Structure240sx]

whats your price range then you determine the quailty of the kit

[dgraza1]

My price range really depends on quality if the 750 turbo kit is decent and will get me a basic turbo kit and then i can save to get a better turbo I will do that. If the whole kit is junk then I will save up to get a better one I am really planning on going with independent engine management eventually. Right now I would like a turbo kit to get me up and running that will provide quality manifolds, injectors, and turbo with possibilities of upgrading turbo. I am willing to spend upwards of 4,000 but like to keep it cheap as possible. I was thinking of creating a custom kit but I dont know much about turbos. I would like a quick spool and max hp about 300 to the ground.

[JRL]

The $700 eBay kits use a lot of the same parts that the Boostdesign kit uses. So your almost better of buying the cheap kit, and then using the extra money for upgrading the cheaper parts of the kit out for better ones.

.....I guess you could say your subsidizing the purchase of better parts by parting out the cheaper parts.

Such as the intercooler, couplings, wastegate (wastegate pictures are the identical.....not kidding). So, keep those parts. People on these forums seem to be having good luck with those.

The turbo on the other hand is junk, so sell it. The BOV is a GReddy knock off, sell it, and then upgrade to a real Type S.

So I would say....buy the eBay kit, sell the turbo that comes with it on eBay, and then buy a good snail from someone else.....atpturbo.com comes to mind.

[Craving4Boost]

i hope your not talking about the SSA kit....

[JRL]

i hope your not talking about the SSA kit....

.....The $700 eBay turbo kit company and Boostdesigns use the same wastegate, intercooler, and couplings in their kits.....and like I said before, the pictures even match.

So you can look down on it all you want, but, parting out, and upgrading isnt all that far fetched of an idea.

Although, Im not about to try it.

[sanioll]

maybe i'm a newbie when it comes to turbo's, but how the hell can you just pick a turbo kit without knwoing **** about it.

find out efficiencies, best size for your engine, etcc. when you want boost to kick in, set your goals, and then build your own turbo.

can't blieve these kids.

>>hey where ya going? OH, i am gonna go and grab a turbo kit from autozone, need some horsepower..

[JRL]

maybe i'm a newbie when it comes to turbo's, but how the hell can you just pick a turbo kit without knwoing **** about it.

Yeah that would be stupid, and, thats not what I was telling him to do.

I was saying for him to upgade to a more reliable equivalent of.

[dgraza1]

I plan on upgrading the turbo to match my engine I was just wondering if the kit was quality so if I bought it would the manifold crack because of cheap material, undersized intercooler, etc. For 700 if the kit gives me a good start with a manifold, blow off valve, wastegate, injectors, intercooler. then I will go with that and upgrade as needed.

[hysteria]

it's ssac. posts related to "should i buy this great priced kit off ebay" referring to ssac or xs power or any affiliates have been officially banned by the admins around here because every time a new user starts posting up on these forums the first thing they tend to bring up is ssac and "is it worth it", etc....

if you want answers do a search pertaining to ss autochrome, ssac, xspower, or anything related to it. there have been a ton of posts about the topic. this post will probably get deleted, so before it does go do a search and find out about ssac kits.

many people have them and they work fine as an entry level setup but don't expect it to be something it isn't... great quality stuff that will last forever and do whatever you want it to... $700 won't even buy you the necessary manifold to make the kinds of numbers a lot of people on this board make... (eh this might be a stretch but you get the idea that the quality stuff isn't cheap)

if you are fine with 7 psi then get it. many of the parts work fine (as jrl said) but some of the parts are crap. in addition to this you're not going to make 300hp with a fmu setup. learn more about fuel management and the different options and costs of all of those options....

don't take this as a put down because it's not meant that way, but chances are that if you're looking at a $700 turbo kit you don't have a good concept of what actual power to the ground is, and what reaching certain power goals entails. making 300 hp isn't exactly cheap because the fuel management required to do so will cost a good amount (much more than that $700 kit for sure for better injectors, fuel pump, maybe fuel rail, fuel management electronics and other things required). all the information you need is within these forums, you just have to use the search button. good luck.

[TheOne]

if $4000 is the max, i'd get the stage 2 kit from boostdesigns + the Enthalpy tuned ECU......it may not be the best of the best but its something, and it comes with almost everything to get it in.

but keep researching, there's other options apart from boostdesigns, and set a whp goal.and also are you rebuilding the engine as in putting stronger internals or just new gaskets/rings?

[dgraza1]

I am building the engine with all new internals. I recieved the Ka for free from a friend who swapped in a sr. I already have the head ported and polished. I am getting ready to purchase the valves, valve spring and retainers. I am trying to get an idea of what turbo kits or custom setups people are using and have had good success so I can get an idea of what cams. I want to match the cams to my turbo when I buy it. I know I am new to the post I have looked over alot of the threads. I didnt see anything specific on the ebay turbo kits that is why I asked about it. I probably won't but it just wondering what people thought. Besides the ebay turbo kit is anyone using a apexi turbo?

[hysteria]

if you are building your engine do not mate it with a cheap *** kit... get something that's worth your time and effort. get something from phatka-t.com or boost designs or something comparable (not that phat ka-t and boost designs are the same, but ssac and ebay kits are not even close to either one). ssac is a good starter kit, and that is it's limit... i don't know anyone who has a ssac kit with 300 hp... it's just something good for people who don't have much money and want some more power... i would never reccommend it to someone who is putting in the effort you are (building the engine with all new goodies)...

talk to the people who have more experience around here and establish your price range because the stuff can be anywhere from moderately priced to extremely pricey... it all just depends on what you want to spend and what you want to do (what your goals are).

[dgraza1]

I checked out that boost design turbo kit, I am leaning towards buying the stage two kit. It says that it will lay down 300 horses to the wheels and that is my goal right now.