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s13redmon
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Well, my POS radiator tank split and spewed out all of my coolant and blew the head gasket. So i'm pretty sure my head is warped, and I don't really have the time/money for the machine shop and rebuild parts right now. Not to mention the head needs work, i've got a bad lifter or valve spring or something. So I'm just wondering if anyone has a GOOD block and head assembly they're willing to part with, just kindof looking around before i have to go N/A KA for a while...


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machine work isn't as expensive as you think. They should resurface the head and do the valve for under $100. You'll just need to buy the parts. If you are going back to KA anyway, you mind as well just save money and try and repair your stuff. otherwise, check a thread a few below this one. I think someone is parting out their CA. GL!

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If you want a spare long block (unknown condition), I have two...

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s13redmon
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Yea i know its not that expensive, but around here its not very accessable, the machinist that does cheap work for me and my dad is really backed up right now. And I'm not really sure what is messed up in the head, it might be a worn cam lobe for all I know. Thats why i'm trying to find one thats running already with no problems, I just don't have the money to play cat and mouse with mine right now. And to richard, i would definately check those out but I'm about 1000 miles south from you lol but thanks anyway man.

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s13redmon
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And to superman, yea I am thinking about putting a KA in for now so I can wait and rebuild my CA. I love this engine and its stood up to me beating the hell out of it for a good while now, if it hadn't been for that stupid radiator it would still be purring like a kitten right now.

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s13redmon wrote:Yea i know its not that expensive, but around here its not very accessable, the machinist that does cheap work for me and my dad is really backed up right now. And I'm not really sure what is messed up in the head, it might be a worn cam lobe for all I know. Thats why i'm trying to find one thats running already with no problems, I just don't have the money to play cat and mouse with mine right now. And to richard, i would definately check those out but I'm about 1000 miles south from you lol but thanks anyway man.
I think Shipping would be a tad expensive!

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How you do you know the head is warped? How hot did it get? Just because the HG blew, doesn't mean the head is warped. As far a the head needing a new cam or spring, it's unlikely. MUCH more likely you're in need of a new lifter. Much more common on these motors.

My vote is to pull the head off and check it. All you need is a straight edge and a feeler gauge. The tolerances are listed in the FSM for how far out the head can be. I can have the head off my motor in an hour or less working by myself (I've done it a half a dozen times). No reason you shouldn't be able to do it in a couple of hours. And it won't cost you a penny either. If you find out the head is fine, go pick up a new Felpro HG from the parts store, clean up the head and block, and slap it back together.

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float_6969 wrote:How you do you know the head is warped? How hot did it get? Just because the HG blew, doesn't mean the head is warped. As far a the head needing a new cam or spring, it's unlikely. MUCH more likely you're in need of a new lifter. Much more common on these motors.

My vote is to pull the head off and check it. All you need is a straight edge and a feeler gauge. The tolerances are listed in the FSM for how far out the head can be. I can have the head off my motor in an hour or less working by myself (I've done it a half a dozen times). No reason you shouldn't be able to do it in a couple of hours. And it won't cost you a penny either. If you find out the head is fine, go pick up a new Felpro HG from the parts store, clean up the head and block, and slap it back together.
float: I think part of his dilemma is that this car is probably his DD and he's borrowing a car to survive... I remember fixing or modifying my daily driver and when something broke the weekends were a mad rush to fix it so I could get to work Monday.

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I say go ahead and throw your KA in there if you need to have your car running quickly. There's no easy way out of your dilemma and really, there's no cheap way out, either. If you don't have a KA and all it's needed components, you're gonna spend money and don't even talk about time loss in labor. Trying to buy someone's used CA could yield you a headache, especially if the person you're purchasing it from is not reputable and knowledgeable. My advice on the matter is in-line with float's suggestion in the fact that it is least expensive if you remove your CA and refresh it. If you're willing to spend big money, I'll happily sell you a serious motor, but I do believe my stuff is over-kill for most on this forum. So rebuild your lump and when it comes to the CA, don't ever think cheap or you'll set yourself up for eminent failure ;) .

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I have a head thats in great shape, needs not a thing! PM me and Ill give you a good price.

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s13redmon
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thanks alot guys, and yea dee i would love to have a built engine but don't really have the dough right now lol. i can get a decent ka out of a junkyard by my house for about 3 or 400 and it comes with all the sh** i need. i'm gonna compression test it again in the morning, once cold and once right after i warm it up and see how it does and then i'll do some more option weighing. and float it got really hot, so bad that it almost locked up, the starter would barely turn it over at first. i didn't know it was hot at all because the crappy stock gauge said it was at N.O.T and it didn't really start miss firing until right before it shut off. i think since this is my daily driver i'm just gonna put in a running engine and set this one aside till i can do something with it. but i am gonna call the importer in the morning and see what they can do for me.

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s13redmon
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Well, i went and compression tested and ran a KA this morning, all the cylinders were between 175 and 185 cold and between 205 and 215 when warm and it ran perfect. So i bought it for 400 with a full wiring harness and all the pumps and lines, including AC and PS lines which i could never f'ing find before when i needed them for the CA but hey, i'll have them when it goes back in lol. I actually put wheels on the slightly crashed s13 and drove it to the top of the yard to pull the engine, just thought it was ironic kindof. But the reason i'm doing it this way is i have pretty much all the sh** i need to run a low boost, low buck KA-t setup until i can build a big power (fully built) CA setup, because well, i like my daily driver to have power lol. Its just really frustrating because i was about to put a spec clutch, s15 turbo and 550's in the CA and all it really took was some A-HOLE leaving a car battery in the road to eff it all up for me... but whatever, it'll work out one way or another. BTW, one of the reasons i'm doing it this way is that my CA needs a lot more money in parts than its gonna cost me to put this KA in and have something to drive. I don't want to just rebuild the CA with stock parts, i want it to handle 400whp very reliably without having to worry about a stock rod, piston or head gasket giving up on me. I know they can handle this much power with stock innards but a rod hanging out of the side of the block would always be in the back of my mind. But with that said, i'm not throwing in the towel, just waiting till i have more money to throw into it, i'll be back sooner or later guys.


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