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RobPaulson wrote:
Urabus GodofTraction wrote: HIIT should be getting your bpm past 160.
oh it is, i usually sit around 180-200bpm DURING the WOD, we hit 160ish during our warmups easily.

and you're right about the intervals too, i've def pushed through fat loss platues by going to intervals when i was much younger. :bigthumb:

It is true I have no experience being an old f***.


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whos an old f***?

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charlio: broad strokes like that aren't accurate either.

I have Never had my heart rate above 140 and I played entire life. on that note, my resting rate is between 55-65.

160-180 is ridiculous for me!

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PoorManQ45 wrote:charlio: broad strokes like that aren't accurate either.

I have Never had my heart rate above 140 and I played entire life. on that note, my resting rate is between 55-65.

160-180 is ridiculous for me!
If you've never had your heart rate over 160, you're pretty much a huge slackass, or are measuring it wrong. With a resting bpm like your's, it's not a case of extreme heart strength, either.

And no, you ARE hurting a successful attempt at weightloss with your sub 1,000 calorie a day diet. Let's run the numbers. How long have you been doing your ridiculous diet?

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Urabus GodofTraction wrote:And no, you ARE hurting a successful attempt at weightloss with your sub 1,000 calorie a day diet. Let's run the numbers. How long have you been doing your ridiculous diet?
A little over a month.

Starting weight was 210. Current weight is 192.

Only increase in activity is the usage of a 25lb dumbell for upper body work out.

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Everyone is way to caught up with this arbitrary number that is weight. It's all about how you feel and look. Don't weigh yourself 3x a day, that's useless. If you're working out and on a protein rich clean toxin free diet you'll lose fat and gaining a ton of muscle so the actual number of pounds you lose is somewhat trivial.

Leptin - is a chemical that's produced when you eat something that tells your brain you're full. Protein produces the most amount of leptin, fat is #2 and sugars produce very little. That's why you can eat a massive bowl of pasta but can't make it 1/2 through a steak. Use that as a starting point, more info to come.

I didn't go from 239lbs to 187lbs in a year by doing it wrong. I just did a workout I performed a year ago and I finished at 1/3 my previous time. I can now fit into my old snowboarding pants(actually a little big) and have rendered my XL T-shirts useless.

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If you dropped the smugness you'd lose 100lbs.


Just kidding. :)

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PoorManQ45 wrote:
Urabus GodofTraction wrote:And no, you ARE hurting a successful attempt at weightloss with your sub 1,000 calorie a day diet. Let's run the numbers. How long have you been doing your ridiculous diet?
A little over a month.

Starting weight was 210. Current weight is 192.

Only increase in activity is the usage of a 25lb dumbell for upper body work out.
A month? Got fat percentages too? Else come back in another two months when your body is done cannibalizing the tiny amount of muscle mass you have.

You'll become the dreaded "skinny fat," unable to even bench (or worse...squat) your own weight. A curse I wouldn't wish on anyone.

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ya don't do this. AZ89, don't go posting crappy dangerous health advice please. This is terrible.

How is it terrible? Dangerous is completely absurd. You don't NEED three meals a day. If he simply wants to lose weight, cutting meals out will do just that. Some people function very well with little to no food in the morning, myself included. It's all about portion control. In my case, if I ever eat in the morning, I find myself much more hungry throughout the day. I should start eating more morning meals....

He doesn't seem like he wants a full blown lifestyle change, so why treat it like that? Granted, a proper, balanced diet, and exercise is the BEST way but there are other ways. I would call just cutting meals and calories drastically the "easy" way out.

It really depends on how hard you want to work to lose the weight, and if you want to increase your fitness along with it.

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I skipped lunch once and died so take that for what its worth.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote: How is it terrible? Dangerous is completely absurd. You don't NEED three meals a day. If he simply wants to lose weight, cutting meals out will do just that. Some people function very well with little to no food in the morning, myself included. It's all about portion control. In my case, if I ever eat in the morning, I find myself much more hungry throughout the day. I should start eating more morning meals....
You'd like this guy.

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Jesda wrote:I skipped lunch once and died so take that for what its worth.

Ghost Jesda? :ohno:

Urabus is on point though. It's *really* easy to just eliminate processed foods (flour-based crap) and sugar, it's an easy way to lose 5-10lb from the start if it's something that's a huge part of your diet as it stands.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:How is it terrible? Dangerous is completely absurd.
Telling someone to not eat is absurd.

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The easiest way to lose weight (safely) is to reduce calorie intake. You don't have to do anything extreme like go on a 1K calorie diet as PMQ suggested. Frankly, its not likely to be any faster than cutting down your calorie intake to some level based on your weight. This is why programs like Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers build diet plans based on a person's weight. And as they lose weight, their plan is adjusted accordingly so that the calorie intake is lower in proportion to their weight. This does 2 things. First, its safer. Too few calories is a bad thing. Its essentially no different than starving yourself. Second, it eases the transition as "going cold turkey" is hard to do as losing weight over a longer period is about changing one's lifestyle.

Exercise also helps, but for weight loss programs, it tends to help more in that a person can increase their calorie intake by an amount equal to the amount of calories burned during the exercise without affecting their weight loss rate.

Lastly, one way to help reduce calorie intake is to simply choose better. Like hot dogs? Get the low fat versions. Hebrew's low fat dogs are actually pretty good. Other brands I have tried were bland and had little flavor. Low fat cheeses, mayo, meats, and bread can help reduce calorie intake by almost half per sandwich and get you just as full. If you like soda, go diet. I tend to hate the taste of most diet sodas, but found Diet Dr Pepper and Coke Zero taste pretty good. Both have zero calories so have no penalties in terms of weight gain.

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C-Kwik wrote:The easiest way to lose weight (safely) is to reduce calorie intake. You don't have to do anything extreme like go on a 1K calorie diet as PMQ suggested. Frankly, its not likely to be any faster than cutting down your calorie intake to some level based on your weight. This is why programs like Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers build diet plans based on a person's weight. And as they lose weight, their plan is adjusted accordingly so that the calorie intake is lower in proportion to their weight. This does 2 things. First, its safer. Too few calories is a bad thing. Its essentially no different than starving yourself. Second, it eases the transition as "going cold turkey" is hard to do as losing weight over a longer period is about changing one's lifestyle.

Exercise also helps, but for weight loss programs, it tends to help more in that a person can increase their calorie intake by an amount equal to the amount of calories burned during the exercise without affecting their weight loss rate.

Lastly, one way to help reduce calorie intake is to simply choose better. Like hot dogs? Get the low fat versions. Hebrew's low fat dogs are actually pretty good. Other brands I have tried were bland and had little flavor. Low fat cheeses, mayo, meats, and bread can help reduce calorie intake by almost half per sandwich and get you just as full. If you like soda, go diet. I tend to hate the taste of most diet sodas, but found Diet Dr Pepper and Coke Zero taste pretty good. Both have zero calories so have no penalties in terms of weight gain.
I disagree with this as well. You don't have to eat less to lose weight, just eat cleaner. Drop the grains, added sugars, starches and processed foods. Concentrate on meats, vegetables, seeds and nuts. It is work and it's not easy but well worth it. Last night I made biscuits & gravy that was close to authentic and 100% healthy. 2 nights before I made Chateaubriand (best cut of meat in the world) topped with mushrooms in a red wine demi-glaze. It was one of the best damn dinners I've ever had. You can eat extremely clean and healthy and enjoy it. The hard part is cooking, a lot. If you want serious help I can give you tons of recipes. Check out this really good book that explains everything about how your body reacts to food and sets up a 30 day meal plan. The Paleo Solution Remember that eating healthy increases the possibility of a disease free future. If it doesn't work what do you have to lose? Although I can personally guarantee that it will work and make you 100% healthier.

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I am sure half of this has been said, but... coming from someone in the military who originally had a problem with physical training...
Step 1: CONSISTENCY!! MINIMUM 3 times a week. Your tired? Your sick? Does not matter. You miss one session, you'll miss two. and then three. and then you don't go at all.
Step 2: Pace yourself. Every person is at a different level of fitness. Start by walking around your block in the neighborhood. Don't feel winded? Jog. The key is to pace yourself, but push yourself. Always be at the point where you can't push any further, but you can still keep going. If you are hurting and feel like quitting, you keep going. Don't stop. Think of something to motivate you. Flatter stomach will mean X hot girl will look at me, or that dogs are chasing me, or I see that fried chicken a mile away! Find what motivates you and keep going.
Step 3: 5 times a week. Yes. I said 3 above. That's for cardio (walking, jogging, running. swimming, spin class, etc.) The other two days. Anarobic. I.E. Weight training. You don't need a gym. Push-ups. Sit-ups. Leg lifts, acordians, crunches, 8-count body builders, scizzor kicks, etc. the internet is your friend. These two days will hurt. But break up your running/walking routine but still keep the CONSISTENCY(read: habit) or working out.
Step 4: Eat better. Just cut out fast food at first. No more Double Cheeseburger and fries. Throw it away after buying if need be like mentioned above. That alone and you will see a difference. Eventually you can cut back to healthier eating at home. Baby steps.
Step 5: And Step 1: Ignore other people. Ignore what TV tells you. Believe in yourself. DECIDE/WANT/NEED to actually change. Then do it. Only your deep down insides can actually give you the willpower to follow through and create the habit to change.

Step 6: Don't stop. You stop doing it and you will move right back. One week without running, and you need three weeks to return to the original level. Keep doing it. Even on vacation.

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Like I said, Paleo is good if you don't want to learn about a big chunk of nutrition. To paleo's credit, grains and their ilk ARE very confusing.

But not bad. But Paleo is pretty good. I like Robb Wolf, especially once he stood up to that c*** Glassman.

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Urabus GodofTraction wrote:Like I said, Paleo is good if you don't want to learn about a big chunk of nutrition. To paleo's credit, grains and their ilk ARE very confusing.

But not bad. But Paleo is pretty good. I like Robb Wolf, especially once he stood up to that c*** Glassman.
It wasn't Coach Glassman he stood up to, it was Dave Castro. Sounds like you and Glassman go way back.

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Empty V wrote:
Urabus GodofTraction wrote:Like I said, Paleo is good if you don't want to learn about a big chunk of nutrition. To paleo's credit, grains and their ilk ARE very confusing.

But not bad. But Paleo is pretty good. I like Robb Wolf, especially once he stood up to that c*** Glassman.
It wasn't Coach Glassman he stood up to, it was Dave Castro. Sounds like you and Glassman go way back.
Castro went off his rocker at some symposium. Glassman "excommunicated" Wolf soon after.

Glassman will destroy Crossfit. No system of accountability will water down the brand image because any Tom, d!ck, or Harry with a fistful of bucks can call himself a Crossfit affiliate. Good times.

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Urabus GodofTraction wrote:Castro went off his rocker at some symposium. Glassman "excommunicated" Wolf soon after.

Glassman will destroy Crossfit. No system of accountability will water down the brand image because any Tom, d!ck, or Harry with a fistful of bucks can call himself a Crossfit affiliate. Good times.
Your negativity never ceases to amaze me.

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Empty V wrote:
Urabus GodofTraction wrote:Castro went off his rocker at some symposium. Glassman "excommunicated" Wolf soon after.

Glassman will destroy Crossfit. No system of accountability will water down the brand image because any Tom, d!ck, or Harry with a fistful of bucks can call himself a Crossfit affiliate. Good times.
Your negativity never ceases to amaze me.
To a delusional optimist, realism seems like negativity.

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Everyone in this thread is wrong.

The only real way to "lose" weight is this:

http://silbermanmd.iarbiz.com/L3z98q6Bv70=

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Interesting, a calorie is not a calorie when it comes to our bodies.

A calorie is a measure of energy input required to heat a volume of water 1 degree.

Our bodies are not Bunsen burners.

http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/20 ... a-calorie/


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