Dude, the Bay Area is about the worst place in the United States to buy a car. I just bought an x-Terra last year and went to LA to do it. You should for sure consider driving down to LA, Modesto, anyplace but the Bay Area...you will pay high retail here. You can get lucky at times, but my experience is a trip to LA is usually required. I did buy my Q45 here right when Peninsula was about to take over Shen Infiniti but that was because of all the chaos in 2000 when Shen killed himself in jail...if you still have prlblems send me an e-mail
[email protected] and I can help you find a dealership in LA that will cut you a good deal. Once you have that price than you can at least be in a position of power with the dealers here. For some reason people in the Bay Area don't seem to deal like So Cal people do. They wanted 3k over STICKER for my X-Terra, I found one right at invoice and than found one with 5,000 miles for 4k UNDER invoice.