need advice..

[leveledlife]

i need advice since i couldnt reieve any on my last thread... im taking out the motor on my 240 without the transmission any help for when i do the install??

[Hoffman5982]

have patience. seriously

[leveledlife]

have patience. seriously

thanks man..no hard feelings

[OutToWinPAHC]

Cases of beer, friends, tools, and friends tools. Large drain pans help

Take your time. Unplumb it all, unwire it all, start unbolting the exhaust and anything that's in the way (radiator, etc). Then get engine jack in place, removed trans bolts and prep trans for removal (forget if its a push or pull type clutch), may need to pull clutch fork. Unbolt motor mounts, pull from trans and lift out. Take your time, be careful

[leveledlife]

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Cases of beer, friends, tools, and friends tools. Large drain pans help

Take your time. Unplumb it all, unwire it all, start unbolting the exhaust and anything that's in the way (radiator, etc). Then get engine jack in place, removed trans bolts and prep trans for removal (forget if its a push or pull type clutch), may need to pull clutch fork. Unbolt motor mounts, pull from trans and lift out. Take your time, be careful

im not taking the transmission out tho..

[zerepdivad]

Why are you so terrified of taking out the transmission with it?

[leveledlife]

Why are you so terrified of taking out the transmission with it?

its not that im terrified its the fact that i will have no place to put the transmission once i do pull it therefor i want to leave it on.. its hard to explain..

[Flicktitty]

its not that im terrified its the fact that i will have no place to put the transmission once i do pull it therefor i want to leave it on.. its hard to explain..

put it on the ground, then put the motor where ever you want it. then put the trans in the trunk/hatch.

[leveledlife]

put it on the ground, then put the motor where ever you want it. then put the trans in the trunk/hatch.

ok it may be easier that way but is it completely impossibe to put it in with the transmission in??

[zerepdivad]

i've pulled those motors with trans with no problems. Pulled the trans but no motor a few times and that is annoying. Putting it back in is even more annoying. I can't imagine it being any easier putting the motor in with the trans still bolted up to the car. But go for it and let us know how that goes......

[leveledlife]

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i've pulled those motors with trans with no problems. Pulled the trans but no motor a few times and that is annoying. Putting it back in is even more annoying. I can't imagine it being any easier putting the motor in with the trans still bolted up to the car. But go for it and let us know how that goes......

ok well i guess ill let you all know how it goes..

[baron_harkkonen]

i've pulled those motors with trans with no problems. Pulled the trans but no motor a few times and that is annoying. Putting it back in is even more annoying. I can't imagine it being any easier putting the motor in with the trans still bolted up to the car. But go for it and let us know how that goes......

I pulled mine with the transmission still in the car, wish i hadn't but i did. If your gonna do it make sure you get ALL the bell housing bolts out, watch all of your wiring/fuel lines/brake lines. If it's an auto transmission, make sure to get the bell housing bolt behind the dispstick, and get the cooler lines off and out of the way.

[leveledlife]

I pulled mine with the transmission still in the car, wish i hadn't but i did. If your gonna do it make sure you get ALL the bell housing bolts out, watch all of your wiring/fuel lines/brake lines. If it's an auto transmission, make sure to get the bell housing bolt behind the dispstick, and get the cooler lines off and out of the way.

i have every line that is connected to the motor off.. what was your main problem getting the motor back in??

[OutToWinPAHC]

You don't have to pull the trans, but it much easier. If its a manual its only 3 or wire connectors, the mount and jimmy it out. I pulled my old KA and trans with a forklift in one piece. Took about 3 hours to do.

Its harder to serated under the car, and getting those bellhousing bolts out are a PITA.

[leveledlife]

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You don't have to pull the trans, but it much easier. If its a manual its only 3 or wire connectors, the mount and jimmy it out. I pulled my old KA and trans with a forklift in one piece. Took about 3 hours to do.

Its harder to serated under the car, and getting those bellhousing bolts out are a PITA.

well like i said i got everything off the motor disonnected.. i just have to pull it now... the bolt on the top of the bell housing was a pita but i got it.. so when i put in i can just make sure the key way lines up and i should be ok right??

[baron_harkkonen]

i have every line that is connected to the motor off.. what was your main problem getting the motor back in??

Oh snap! Idk? I'm still buildin the motor, funds kinda tight right now. I'm gonna do a 5spd swap and put them both back in together. Um, other than gettin your dowel pins lined up and get your bolts started, don't tighten them untill you get them all started, I see no other MAJOR problem puttin it back in. Do you have an engine lift or what?

[leveledlife]

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Oh snap! Idk? I'm still buildin the motor, funds kinda tight right now. I'm gonna do a 5spd swap and put them both back in together. Um, other than gettin your dowel pins lined up and get your bolts started, don't tighten them untill you get them all started, I see no other MAJOR problem puttin it back in. Do you have an engine lift or what?

i have a cherry picker, and i already have the 5 speed when the motor comes out i can do the clutch then.. im just worried about the whole puttin it in..

[Xj220gt]

I struggled for about 2 days when I tried installing the motor with the transmission already in place. I was working by myself of course. but even when I had a friend helping me, it was such a PITA and I actually scrapped a bunch of stuff (my new stage2 spec pressure plate) and after a while, i started getting scared of bending something or messing something up, so I said f*** it.....

dropped the transmission, took a whole 10 mins if that. pull the bish out and man handled that thing onto the engine. install was beyond easy after that......

only problem with the transmission being taken out though, was that there was a lot of fluid going everywhere...

[leveledlife]

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I struggled for about 2 days when I tried installing the motor with the transmission already in place. I was working by myself of course. but even when I had a friend helping me, it was such a PITA and I actually scrapped a bunch of stuff (my new stage2 spec pressure plate) and after a while, i started getting scared of bending something or messing something up, so I said f*** it.....

dropped the transmission, took a whole 10 mins if that. pull the bish out and man handled that thing onto the engine. install was beyond easy after that......

only problem with the transmission being taken out though, was that there was a lot of fluid going everywhere...

why ouldnt you get it to fo in were you lining up your key ways? ive done many of v8 swap but this isnt a v8.. i just dont understand why its so hard..

[Xj220gt]

This was my first engine swap (ka to ka) so I might just not have the right experience, but I can tell you for sure that it is easier with transmission out.

the problem was that I couldnt get the driveshaft in the engine, I would sometimes, but the angles were usually wrong and the driveshaft would not go in all the way. sometimes it would slip out.... I got pissed and jumped in the engine bay with the engine as my friend lowered the engine in. I was trying to manhandle it and it fell on the motor mounts luckily. part of it on me.. no major damage to me, just bruises on my legs. the engine isnt that heavy, thank god.

either way, stupid move and all, it is much easier and safer to just install the transmission and engine together.

[leveledlife]

This was my first engine swap (ka to ka) so I might just not have the right experience, but I can tell you for sure that it is easier with transmission out.

the problem was that I couldnt get the driveshaft in the engine, I would sometimes, but the angles were usually wrong and the driveshaft would not go in all the way. sometimes it would slip out.... I got pissed and jumped in the engine bay with the engine as my friend lowered the engine in. I was trying to manhandle it and it fell on the motor mounts luckily. part of it on me.. no major damage to me, just bruises on my legs. the engine isnt that heavy, thank god.

either way, stupid move and all, it is much easier and safer to just install the transmission and engine together.

so you eventuallyy got it in with the transmission in?

[E7-S14]

my .02 cent

speaking form experience.pull it with the transmission on.its easieryou'll save your self many cuss words, and time.trust me.

...its not a honda.

[leveledlife]

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my .02 cent

speaking form experience.pull it with the transmission on.its easieryou'll save your self many cuss words, and time.trust me.

...its not a honda.

im not taking the transmission out period so i need advice on with it in the car..

[Xj220gt]

No. I did not get it in with the transmission bolted in.

I had to drop the transmission(unbolt it) grab the transmission and mate it with the engine, then I installed the engine and the transmission together.

[leveledlife]

No. I did not get it in with the transmission bolted in.

I had to drop the transmission(unbolt it) grab the transmission and mate it with the engine, then I installed the engine and the transmission together.

what angle did it go in at??

[Lonismos14]

SO THERE GOES YOUR ANSWER FOR THE TENTH TIME TODAY PULL BOTH AND THROW THE transmission IN THE TRUNK

[leveledlife]

SO THERE GOES YOUR ANSWER FOR THE TENTH TIME TODAY PULL BOTH AND THROW THE transmission IN THE TRUNK

thats not my point im not pulling the transmission period i need help with installing JUST motor..

[Xj220gt]

its just hard because you are trying to align the motor to the transmission and alight the motor mounts at the same time. (you could probably get away with taking them off and installing after the transmission is in)

when you lower the engine in, it will not be easy because you have to align it and push it. its kinda hard to push it because its being held by the engine jack (puller/whatever) and pushing it will mainly just tilt the engine.

I didnt wanna drop the transmission either, but after two wasted days of pushing, dropping, pulling, and cussing, I just decided to take the damn transmission out. 30 minutes and the transmission was matted to the engine. 20 minutes more and the engine sat in my engine bay.
Modified by Xj220gt at 3:56 PM 10/6/2009

[leveledlife]

its just hard because you are trying to align the motor to the transmission and alight the motor mounts at the same time. (you could probably get away with taking them off and installing after the transmission is in)

when you lower the engine in, it will not be easy because you have to align it and push it. its kinda hard to push it because its being held by the engine jack (puller/whatever) and pushing it will mainly just tilt the engine.

what if i took off the front clip?

[Xj220gt]

The front clip? as in the radiator support? if so, that would be a PITA because that thing is welded on...