need a recommendation for a sub/amp combo

[losenone]

OK, so heres the deal.

I have everything in the car system done already besides the sub, heres what i have so far.

Deck: Pioneer AVH-P5000DVD, I may be swapping out for a D3Front Speakers: Infinity 6 1/2" Components KAPPA60.9CSRear Speakers: Infinity 6x9 REF9622i Speaker Amp: Rockford Fosgate - Punch 400W Class AB Bridgeable 4-Channel Amplifier

A buddy of mine that does car stereo stuff recommended this setup for what i wanted, be loud as hell lol.

Heres my question, I want to finish it off with a sub. I'm leaning towards a single 10" sub, probably a Alpine Type-R SWR-1042D. I don't want a flashy hey i can shake the whole damn street sound, I just want it to be crisp and pack some punch behind it. Also looking to not have it take up half the trunk as well. Any suggestions?

[CoutureCoupe]

check on eBay, there is a nice sub box that will fit two 10" subs in the rear of the trunk that does not take up too much room. As for the subs, I'm Apple or Doc will be chiming in shortly...

Just out of curiosity, with your current setup do you have good bass already? I was thinking of doing pretty much the same speaker installation with my Kenwood unit sans the subs.

[losenone]

The current setup does have some decent kick to it, but im looking for a little more. You cant turn the stereo up past a certain point, not even a ridiculous volume, especially hip hop without the bass hits sounding a bit distorted. Don't get me wrong, you turn the bass down and the components are loud as hell.

Ive been playing around with the EQ settings and the HPF but nothing really seems to get the sound that im looking for.

EDIT: Found a 10" box, thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/10-Inch-Ca...0.m14
Modified by losenone at 1:49 PM 9/14/2008

[AppleBonker]

I've heard a lot of good things about the Alpine Type-R, so I don't think you'd go wrong with this sub. However, what kind of budget are you looking at for a sub/amp? There might be a few more options, but the Type-R is a good choice.

I don't think that sub box will fit in the trunk. I'm not sure if there is enough clearance for that height. I'd measure, but since my trunk is custom, my measurements will be worthless for you. Unfortunately, our trunk is fairly small, so must boxes will not fit easily. That is why I decided to go with a custom enclosure (plus, this saves more space by being wedged in somewhere where I wouldn't really use the space).

[losenone]

Apple, thanks for the quick reply.

My budget for the amp/sub is about $300-400. I'm pretty sure im going to be swapping out for a D3 as well, found a few on ebay for ~400

As far as the box, idk if i want to get the custom box for the trunk as its almost 3 times the price.

[AppleBonker]

Apple, thanks for the quick reply.

My budget for the amp/sub is about $300-400. I'm pretty sure im going to be swapping out for a D3 as well, found a few on ebay for ~400

As far as the box, idk if i want to get the custom box for the trunk as its almost 3 times the price.

In that price range, a Type-R would be a good fit. Also, I've heard good things about this amp. Not sure where to find those amps at stores, but you can definitely find them on eBay. That will have too much power for the Type-R, so you'll have to set the gains correctly. Like I said, I've heard lots of good things about the Hifonics Brutus amps (I've never run one personally). They seem to be great budget level amps that will out perform most others in their price range.

[losenone]

Great, thanks again. I just placed an order for the R-Type and the amp you recommended. Came out to $344 with free shipping.

Now back to my D3 auctions! Im gonna try and get this D3 from a local seller and get it all installed this weekend =] Ill let you know how it turns out.

[AppleBonker]

Great, thanks again. I just placed an order for the R-Type and the amp you recommended. Came out to $344 with free shipping.

Now back to my D3 auctions! Im gonna try and get this D3 from a local seller and get it all installed this weekend =] Ill let you know how it turns out.

Like I said before, check the gain setting tutorial in the FAQ in my signature. You did end up with the 1042D, correct? If so, the sub can be wired down to a 2-ohm load for that amp. The amp is capable of pushing 900 watts RMS at that impedance. I've heard of people running that much power on a Type-R for extended periods of time, but I would be careful. Last thing you want to do is blow that sub. If I were you, I'd try to set it so that the sub is seeing closer to the recommended 500 watts RMS (maybe as much as 600 can be done safely). Just be careful so you don't blow your nice new sub, and you'll be able to enjoy it for a long while.

[losenone]

I got the 1208D. Its rated 450W @ 4 ohms, 900W @ 2 ohms and 1200W @ 1 ohm.

I believe i will keep the RMS to 500 since im not about to destroy a brand new sub. Thanks again for your help. Now back to watching the D3 auctions on ebay. I also need a new double din dash kit, the one i have now has a broken clip =[

[AppleBonker]

I got the 1208D. Its rated 450W @ 4 ohms, 900W @ 2 ohms and 1200W @ 1 ohm.

Sorry, I was referring to the sub with the 1042D. I just wanted to make sure you got the dual four ohm VC sub and not a dual two ohm sub. The dual four ohm will be easier to wire and safer on the amp. Good luck on the HU auctions.

[losenone]

Ahh, sorry about that. Yeah I got the 1042D.

Ebay sucks. I hate losing auctions in the last 10 seconds lol.

EDIT: Apple or anyone else, what box would be recommend for the R-Type sub, im trying to not take up my whole trunk.
Modified by losenone at 2:08 PM 9/15/2008

[AppleBonker]

Ahh, sorry about that. Yeah I got the 1042D.

Ebay sucks. I hate losing auctions in the last 10 seconds lol.

EDIT: Apple or anyone else, what box would be recommend for the R-Type sub, im trying to not take up my whole trunk.

Well, that partially depends on what kind of sound you're looking for. A sealed box will be smaller and should hit cleaner, but wont get quite as loud and boomy. A ported box will need to be a bit bigger, but will be louder and less clean. Also, you'll need to make sure you don't feed frequencies too much below the port frequency or you could damage the sub. My vote is always sealed, but that is completely a matter of personal preference. If you go sealed, you should probably try to get a box around 0.75 cubes and then it would have to fit in our little trunk. If you go ported, look for something around 1.1-1.3 cubes and a port frequency tuned somewhere between 30-35 Hz probably. It might be hard to find a box with those dimensions that fits cleanly in our trunk. The best way would be to make one yourself, but this is definitely more time consuming than buying one pre-built. If you decide to build yourself, let us know and I can throw some pointers out there.

[CoutureCoupe]

Apple, did you fabricate your sub box? If so I would recommend going into business and selling it on the forum. I have no idea what you were just referring to regarding cubes, ported, sealed, etc.

But I would certainly trust you to make a box that would bump!

[AppleBonker]

Apple, did you fabricate your sub box? If so I would recommend going into business and selling it on the forum. I have no idea what you were just referring to regarding cubes, ported, sealed, etc.

But I would certainly trust you to make a box that would bump!

Haha. Yeah, I built my box, but it's fiberglass and would require removing the extra stuff in the trunk. Also, it's by no means perfect. In fact, Doc's box is much better manufactured than mine.

In response to the rest, cubes is referring to cubic feet. Sorry I didn't make that clearer. Making a box out of MDF is relatively simple (I made my first one with my dad when I was 16). Making a ported box is slightly more difficult than sealed, but there are diagrams all over the internet for constructing one with a given internal volume and port frequency.

I wish I had the free time to build boxes for people on the forums. However, there's not much money in it (and I'm certainly not one to rip people on here off) and shipping gets outrageous. But that's why I offer to help guide people through wherever possible.

Oh yeah, and there's some info on enclosure types in the FAQ in my signature for some info. Plenty more info on the interwebs though...

[losenone]

Haha. Yeah, I built my box, but it's fiberglass and would require removing the extra stuff in the trunk. Also, it's by no means perfect. In fact, Doc's box is much better manufactured than mine.

In response to the rest, cubes is referring to cubic feet. Sorry I didn't make that clearer. Making a box out of MDF is relatively simple (I made my first one with my dad when I was 16). Making a ported box is slightly more difficult than sealed, but there are diagrams all over the internet for constructing one with a given internal volume and port frequency.

I wish I had the free time to build boxes for people on the forums. However, there's not much money in it (and I'm certainly not one to rip people on here off) and shipping gets outrageous. But that's why I offer to help guide people through wherever possible.

Oh yeah, and there's some info on enclosure types in the FAQ in my signature for some info. Plenty more info on the interwebs though...

I posted my old deck on craigslist and someone contacted me about it, says he runs his own side business and he can get me a suitable box. So we shall see! And tells me he can get a D3 from his job, of cours after I paypal someone else for it! :[

[losenone]

UPDATE:

Everything is installed including the D3 and it sounds amazing. Thanks again Apple, he opened up the Brutus amp and just said yeah, this thing is awesome and will last you forever.

[AppleBonker]

UPDATE:

Everything is installed including the D3 and it sounds amazing. Thanks again Apple, he opened up the Brutus amp and just said yeah, this thing is awesome and will last you forever.

Excellent! I'm glad you're happy with your purchases. The Brutus amp is definitely not the best on the market, but for the price you paid, I doubt you could really get anything better. It is an excellent amp and should treat you well for its lifetime! Let's get some pics up!

[losenone]

Excellent! I'm glad you're happy with your purchases. The Brutus amp is definitely not the best on the market, but for the price you paid, I doubt you could really get anything better. It is an excellent amp and should treat you well for its lifetime! Let's get some pics up!

Ill have to snatch up someones camera and take some pics. I still dont have one, and i dont even have a camera on the phone. Damn Blackberry 8830.

[losenone]

@Apple

Heres the amp in action:

[AppleBonker]

Looks good. For whatever reason I really like the way that amp looks.

[LittleMan]

not bad setup. iv been doing car audio for a bit and mine is is almost like urs. I have 6.5 & 6x9 kappa 3ways with a single 10" punch hx2 rite now. bd800.4 for my cones and db1000.1 for my sub. the bad thing about punch amp is that they require 13.5 power supply so u must get a capacitor to get the power rating. so I picked up a tsunami 5 farad cap. im looking to get a new sub cuz my amp is pushing the peek for the sub. Im looking at DD, W7, or RE sub. maybe just be cheap and get a w6...

i built a band pass box for my coupe and i love it. ill post picks when i get time. the only flaw i saw in the box u posted was that 13" height and in my trunk i can only get 12" clearance cuz my 6x9 3way hangs really low.

Any suggestions on a sub for my amp???

[losenone]

Looks good. For whatever reason I really like the way that amp looks.

I love how it glows at night. Now i need to get my EQ settings down straight.

not bad setup. iv been doing car audio for a bit and mine is is almost like urs. I have 6.5 & 6x9 kappa 3ways with a single 10" punch hx2 rite now. bd800.4 for my cones and db1000.1 for my sub. the bad thing about punch amp is that they require 13.5 power supply so u must get a capacitor to get the power rating. so I picked up a tsunami 5 farad cap. im looking to get a new sub cuz my amp is pushing the peek for the sub. Im looking at DD, W7, or RE sub. maybe just be cheap and get a w6...

i built a band pass box for my coupe and i love it. ill post picks when i get time. the only flaw i saw in the box u posted was that 13" height and in my trunk i can only get 12" clearance cuz my 6x9 3way hangs really low.

Any suggestions on a sub for my amp???

As far as the sub, I would def pass the question by AppleBonker. Hes the man when it comes to AV stuff

Oh Apple, what ive noticed after putting in LED bulbs. Hard bass hits dim the lights, so im assuming i need a cap

[rjdmmfl1]

not bad setup. iv been doing car audio for a bit and mine is is almost like urs. I have 6.5 & 6x9 kappa 3ways with a single 10" punch hx2 rite now. bd800.4 for my cones and db1000.1 for my sub. the bad thing about punch amp is that they require 13.5 power supply so u must get a capacitor to get the power rating. so I picked up a tsunami 5 farad cap. im looking to get a new sub cuz my amp is pushing the peek for the sub. Im looking at DD, W7, or RE sub. maybe just be cheap and get a w6...

i built a band pass box for my coupe and i love it. ill post picks when i get time. the only flaw i saw in the box u posted was that 13" height and in my trunk i can only get 12" clearance cuz my 6x9 3way hangs really low.

Any suggestions on a sub for my amp???

I think the DD would be your best SQ sub out of the ones you have listed. The W7 is a very sloppy sub... IMO, ONLy good for rap music, anything else will sound like crap. The bass response is not tight due to the loose design of the cone! Out of the ones you listed, I say DD

[Infantry1327]

Very nice set up bro. I am probably going to get 2- 1042d's as well. How does it sound. Are you happy with your purchase and how clean is the sound?

[AppleBonker]

I love how it glows at night. Now i need to get my EQ settings down straight.

Setting the EQ is the fun part. You can seemingly play with that endlessly until you find the sound you like.

Oh Apple, what ive noticed after putting in LED bulbs. Hard bass hits dim the lights, so im assuming i need a cap

Personally, I don't think a cap helps much with this. First, and I cannot stress this enough, make sure you do the big 3 (check the FAQ). That will almost certainly take care of the dimming. Also, LED bulbs shouldn't dim, so I'm slightly confused on this one.

[AppleBonker]

I think the DD would be your best SQ sub out of the ones you have listed. The W7 is a very sloppy sub... IMO, ONLy good for rap music, anything else will sound like crap. The bass response is not tight due to the loose design of the cone! Out of the ones you listed, I say DD

Would certainly have to agree with Doc on this one. Don't go with the W7. If I remember hearing correctly, the W6 should be cleaner than the W7. Which RE sub were you referring to? I do tend to like some of those as well.

[rjdmmfl1]

Yes, the W6 is a much better sub all around than the W7... even my local JL audio rep told me he doesnt know why people fork over the money for the W7.. its just too sloppy!

Would certainly have to agree with Doc on this one. Don't go with the W7. If I remember hearing correctly, the W6 should be cleaner than the W7. Which RE sub were you referring to? I do tend to like some of those as well.

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[LittleMan]

hm... I was looking at the RE XXX and Cerwin Vega Stroker Pro but they don't come in 10"

i currently have a 10" punch hx2 but im tired to this sub.

I want to get a new 10" What should I get???

[AppleBonker]

hm... I was looking at the RE XXX and Cerwin Vega Stroker Pro but they don't come in 10"

i currently have a 10" punch hx2 but im tired to this sub.

I want to get a new 10" What should I get???

Wow, I nearly bought an RE XXX 12" before I got my CMass UL12. That is a nice sub, although it weighs in at over 70 lb. What kind of budget are you looking at? And, based on those ideas, I'm assuming you're looking for something that puts out excellent sound quality but will still get loud?

[LittleMan]

my bro and I are old audio freaks. We DJ techno on the side so we need quality but like it loud. my bro had 2800 GOOD watts (4 ohm at .05 thc) at in a pick-up truck and that **** was loud and clean. his mono was able to to a theta=180 that mean class B instead of regular class D amps now.i dont feel like customizing my trunk rite now so i cant fit a 12" in the back so imma just do a 10" for now cuz i want to get rims then customize my trunk. i ghetto rigged my system so far with like 5 different wire i had left over ill upload some pics for ya...