NC SC CHAT

[smurf13]

this guy on here is supposed to buy them. im just waiting on my paypal account to be verified

[gnvarnadore]

KA-t is screaming to me now, found a KA with 95k on it for $250. the guy im getting from just swapped in a SR because his parents got it for him for christmas. it came from a 5 speed and still has the flywheel and clutch attached. hes also going to give me a radiator so my baby will be back on the road again soon enough. gotta research KA-T's so i can go ahead and turbo it before i drop it in.

pepboys has engine hoists/shop cranes on sell and with a mail in rebate so if anybody needs one now is the time to get it. i got one and i cant wait to use it to pull my motor and drop in the other one.

[scs13]

can i have your old one

[gnvarnadore]

well heres my new KA that i just got today.







well jordan if you help me pull out the old one and and put the new one in with the 5 speed transmission then i'll gladly give you the old one for your help.

[scs13]

sounds like a deal, i wouldnt mind helping anyways. is your car already a 5spd or do you have to do that too?

[gnvarnadore]

have to do that too, so i figure bolt the 5 speed transmission to the new KA and put it all in at once.

[scs13]

yeah, you should go ahead and cut out the hole and stuff. do you have all the rest of the 5spd stuff you need?

[Knotmaster]

Any one have a runing KA24de laying round that they want to get rid of

[scs13]

whats wrong with yours?

[E7-S14]

Any one have a runing KA24de laying round that they want to get rid of

would anyone happen to have a spare KADE laying around that runs good?for cheep?

Boo!I asked first.

I thought over my plans and I'm going to build for BOost.. on the KA..

so if anyone has a really cheap 95+ KAde motor.. *running or not* with a block in good shape.ill be looking for one in the coming month or two.

I'm no longer thinking about going SR,.. my orig plans from the very beginning was to keep the KAI'm going to rebuild a KA for boost..I will be aiming for the 200-250 range..maybe 300 ....but i really don't need that much

so if anyone has one that they ant to sell.. in the next month or two(not now)I might be interested.

this is honestly the first time I've thought of doing any Motor related work..im kinda excited...

[scs13]

build the bottom end or have a badass tune on a well taken care of motor. if i was you i would buy forged pistons, hg, head studs, and bearings ftw. why not save the money on buying a new motor and spend 700 on making it bulletproof for your power goals.

any ideas on what your setup might be?

[E7-S14]

not really.. since i brainstormed this last night.

with my power goals i don't think ill need to touch too much in the top end.. cept for head gasket..

but i do plan on going with forged pistons/ Rods, headstuds, and bearings.the main reason i want to find a block or a KA is so i could build the motor while driving on the one i have..(since i have no other means of transportation)

but i did some research on how much everything will cost if I go all out..around 4500-5000..but thats with rebuild of the head..

what I honestly want to do is rebuild the bottom end, tune it.. drive on it for a while.. Spray the motor.. 50-75shot..save and get a good turbo setup... mainly good Manifold and Turbo/intercooler..

I want to do the rebuild right.. so i can have a reliable turbo setup.( main reason why my HP goals are "normal" or what i consider normally good for that car)

since ive never done any motor work.. im new in this area.but I have a reliable source for Info and help

and lets not forget you guys

ha.. up until now.. my plans were to go all out suspension ha...

[S13NismoStyle]

Yeah I agree with jordan. Throw that money towards a rebuild. But i think to have a bulletproof motor it would cost more than 700 dollars. Just rods and pistons would cost more than that alone.

When i was planning my beast ka i figured some were around 1800 dollars for 'bulletproof" rebuild.

But that was a complete rebuild. Pistons, rods, cometic hg, full oem gasket kit, new oil pump, timing set, machine work and all the other goodies.

Hey jordan, i finally got the turbo and manifold out. It wasnt that bad. I now have to wait for my turbo mani gasket to come it.

Oh yeah, what are you doing saturday? Its my 24th birthday and im trying to figure out something to do.

[S13NismoStyle]

To e7-s14

I have spare bare s13 block and a s14 motor with knocking rod that ill get rid of for cheap.

[E7-S14]

ok.. noob question...knocking rod doesn't effect block soundness right?

if not.. hell im interested.how cheap is cheap to you?

[scs13]

well, my idea of bulletproof for 250hp or so doesnt include rods. its not very ofter you hear of people breaking rods, unless their a tard like devon. the main things that break on a stock bottom end with boost is pistons and that has mostly to do with the tune etc. so i priced out what i was going to buy and it came out to around 700 + machine work. i think that should be plenty strong enough for around 250whp, if you have a decent tune. but if you wanna be super safe and you have the money buy everything for it. or you could just be a baller and buy an ams crate motor + ams turbo kit

http://www.amsperformance.com/...=1042

[gnvarnadore]

yeah Jordan i got all the stuff from Guido a while back, i also had got a front bumper and front fenders from him and him and turstin brought them to me. the flywheel and clutch he had wasnt in the greatest shape but the KA i just got has a good clutch and flywheel still attached to it. the dude i got the KA from was going to turbo it and had bought a turbo kit but when his parents asked him what he wanted for christmas he told them that he would really like a SR so they bought it for him so he sold me the KA and he still has some of the turbo parts to sell.

[Knotmaster]

its not very ofter you hear of people breaking rods, unless their a tard like devon.

Thats the funniest thing i have ever heard

Modified by Knotmaster at 5:26 PM 12/17/2007
Modified by Knotmaster at 5:27 PM 12/17/2007

[scs13]

greg, thats cool man. when are you gonna get started on it? what else does that guy have for sale?

Thats the funniest thing i have ever heard

its true, his motor would have been fine if he wouldnt have driven it after it spun that bearing. now that block is useless. i still need to get a picture of that rod though, ****s ridiculous. devon just got another fastback today and he said he might get a vert too.

[Knotmaster]

Why so he can **** all of them up too

[gnvarnadore]

man if i had a garage i would start on it now but because i dont i might just have to wait till it warms up a little. i know the guy has a turbo manifold for sell and some injectors and i dont know what else he has for sell. i'll ask him to write it up so i can let you know what all he has for sell.

[The Duke]

man if i had a garage i would start on it now but because i dont i might just have to wait till it warms up a little. i know the guy has a turbo manifold for sale and some injectors and i dont know what else he has for sale. i'll ask him to write it up so i can let you know what all he has for sale.

Fixed. I couldn't take it anymore.

[scs13]

brandon, you have to admit his car looks a hell of a lot better now than when he bought it. it just needs some paint and a little more body work and it will look pretty good.

[Knotmaster]

yea it looks ok but only becuse we tell him what to buy and do LOL

[E7-S14]

yeah.. thats prob a NO on the ams create..since this is considered my first "real" project..

I plan to do most everything my self.. thus taking me about a year to a year and a half..(long term project)..

id rather replace most I can for reliability. since i like to beat the piss out of things.. from time to time.

[scs13]

Fixed. I couldn't take it anymore.

watch out, the grammar hammer is here.

well if you wanna go all out it will probobly cost like 2k like chris said. i just think thats why people give up on ka-t. spending all that time and money and end up losing interest. its a lot easier for people to just swap in another motor. its gonna end up being pretty expensive but worth it in the long run. figure another 2k or so for turbo/engine management etc and you could have 300+ whp easy.

i think devon spend somewhere around 1500-2000 and made somewhere from 250-300whp. his motor ended up blowing up but that was all on him. we raped the **** out of that motor on stock injectors on 10psi with a t3/t4 and it was fine till he unhooked the wastegate. even then all he did was somehow spin a bearing. apparently thats what hes good at. he spun bearings 3 different times now, twice on a rebuilt motor.

anyways, whenever you get it going take your time and make sure everything is perfect. might as well learn from our mistakes. i dont blame my motor for blowing up. it was pretty much all my fault.

[S13NismoStyle]

hehe, why would you 'build' a motor for only 250whp? if your gonna go through the trouble of building it, you need to build a motor that can handle 400whp . but really, i also agree that rods arent necessary. Undergroundmotorsports.com has a rebuild kit you could puchase that comes with just about everything you need. I emailed them and you can purchase the kit with out rods, ****, they even had a 150 dollar off deal going. But anyways, just get you some pistons and buy a nice set of calipers and a micrometer and then just follow the fsm. It goes into detail about all of the tolerences and what not you need to have.

Hah, yeah devon is the motor killing king. Did he ever plastigauge his tolerences for his bearings?

Give me a call E7-S14 maybe we can work something out.864.650.7581 Btw my name is chris

[scs13]

im saying a 700 dollar "build" is plenty adequate. but of course fully built is better, just a matter of how much time and money you wanna put into it if youre only gonna make 250whp.

and no, he never did that. he said he read that it wasnt necessary. oh well.

[E7-S14]

wellsure it would be easier/cheaper to go SR and make 250 easy..

the main reason I want to do KA-t is for the learning process..for my first build.since i plan to do it in my basement.

im no HP maniac.. thats why Im aming for 250.so i wont kill my tires every time i launch with 400whp..I want reliable power where I can still beat the piss out of the motor when I want.and until I buy another car.. ti will be driven everyday..250 seems like a nice number..I also want to track the car..since I cant now.. for annoying reasons..i'll have to wait.

I still havnt done enough research in it to see what I need to replace for my hp goals.

but honestly..this is a long term learning process..im still brainstorming.

I'm prepared to spend around 3k-4k over time to get everything running smoothly

and Chris Ill give you a call when I actually have money in hand

[jaxiss]

hey everybody. off topic, but i'm new here and wondering around where everyone lives. i live in indian trail/work in charlotte.