National Review to Romney: Release More Tax Returns

[ImStricken06]

I don't hate rich folks. I hate anyone who plays the system for themselves.

I would love to know his expenditures but he won't release them.

oh ya because obama never "used the system for himself"? really? he not only used "the system" he used the liberal media which makes up 90% of whats on tv/radio "for himself". NAME ONE PERSON WHO WOULDN'T, AND HAS NOT USED "THE SYSTEM" TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.
Do you claim every purchase you make online to pay taxes?
Do you claim every penny of profit that you make by selling online?
Do you not write things off, to save from paying taxes?
= so if you ended up having so many legal write-offs, that you didnt pay taxes, are you ineligible to be president?

obama won't release college transcripts
Fast and Furious records
criminal records
medical records

it took obama months to release his birth certificate.


why do you care about who spends, where - and ignore records that will tell you about the character of a person?
why are you liberals so hypocritical? you hold republicans to standards you, yourselves dont even follow/uphold.

[bigbadberry3]

oh ya because obama never "used the system for himself"? really? he not only used "the system" he used the liberal media which makes up 90% of whats on tv/radio "for himself". NAME ONE PERSON WHO WOULDN'T, AND HAS NOT USED "THE SYSTEM" TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.
Do you claim every purchase you make online to pay taxes?
Do you claim every penny of profit that you make by selling online?
Do you not write things off, to save from paying taxes?
= so if you ended up having so many legal write-offs, that you didnt pay taxes, are you ineligible to be president?

obama won't release college transcripts
Fast and Furious records
criminal records
medical records

it took obama months to release his birth certificate.


why do you care about who spends, where - and ignore records that will tell you about the character of a person?
why are you liberals so hypocritical? you hold republicans to standards you, yourselves dont even follow/uphold.

1) Gaming liberal media? You really do think there is a conspiracy out there don't you?
2) I pay my taxes, even the online ones like Amazon and Ebay. Don't you?
3) I take the tax break for being a teacher because I spend a considerable amount more than my tax break is limited too. 250$ vs about 1600$ I put into the classroom last year.

Maybe I'm the only one who is not taking every possible tax break just "because I can." There is more to life than money.

4)What do college transcripts matter once he has a degree?
5)Like you said about fast and furious, you don't know why the records need to be released. You just want them released.
6)Medical records? Uh? You want to know if you can have the president's kidney or something?

IMO, the president is someone who should be trusted. Romney has done nothing to appease the public in regards to trust based on this issue alone.

You like to make accusations and name call but you really lack any substance. I find it comical. I almost miss when you typed in really big letters.

[ImStricken06]

1) Gaming liberal media? You really do think there is a conspiracy out there don't you?
2) I pay my taxes, even the online ones like Amazon and Ebay. Don't you?
3) I take the tax break for being a teacher because I spend a considerable amount more than my tax break is limited too. 250$ vs about 1600$ I put into the classroom last year.

Maybe I'm the only one who is not taking every possible tax break just "because I can." There is more to life than money.

4)What do college transcripts matter once he has a degree?
5)Like you said about fast and furious, you don't know why the records need to be released. You just want them released.
6)Medical records? Uh? You want to know if you can have the president's kidney or something?

IMO, the president is someone who should be trusted. Romney has done nothing to appease the public in regards to trust based on this issue alone.

You like to make accusations and name call but you really lack any substance. I find it comical. I almost miss when you typed in really big letters.

first of, dont worry about my font, size, nor grammar. if that takes your attention away so easily- then you are not paying attention to my message and or points.
you are a complete hypocrite. in one arm your criticizing Romney for not being open, and in the other arm your quickly covering up for obama not being open.

Like you said about fast and furious, you don't know why the records need to be released. You just want them released.

the reason i want them released is for public safety. this involved GUNS = you know those things, you liberals fear so much? Fast and Furious allowed weapons from the U.S. to pass into the hands of suspected gun smugglers so the arms could be traced to the higher echelons of Mexican drug cartels. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which ran the operation, has lost track of hundreds of firearms, many of which have been linked to crimes, including the fatal shooting of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in December 2010.

Not paying taxes through LEGAL means is not a public safety issue.

[bigbadberry3]

the reason i want them released is for public safety. this involved GUNS = you know those things, you liberals fear so much? Fast and Furious allowed weapons from the U.S. to pass into the hands of suspected gun smugglers so the arms could be traced to the higher echelons of Mexican drug cartels. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which ran the operation, has lost track of hundreds of firearms, many of which have been linked to crimes, including the fatal shooting of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in December 2010.

Not paying taxes through LEGAL means is not a public safety issue.

Romney has to prove the legality of his legal taxes for me.

FF is a national security issues. We don't just hand out plans to everybody or else ever person in the world would be making nukes.

[ImStricken06]

1) Gaming liberal media? You really do think there is a conspiracy out there don't you?

not so much a conspiracy, but certainly an overwhelming following thats beyond biased & politically correct.

You are right, the liberal media have fair & balanced coverage, during the time Obama was running for office. how could i be so stupid. (sarcasm)
The times the liberal media made mashed potatoes out of Sara Palin's kids(especially the mentally challenged one). that wasnt a plan to try and smear Republicans? sure, that was ethical unbiased reporting.
The times the liberal media followed obama with their tongues hanging like excited panting dogs, just waiting to report on what outfit Michelle is wearing. Obama was a media darling,” declared CBS reporter Thalia Assuras. All of that was 100% unbiased.

[bigbadberry3]

1) Gaming liberal media? You really do think there is a conspiracy out there don't you?

not so much a conspiracy, but certainly an overwhelming following thats beyond biased & politically correct.

You are right, the liberal media have fair & balanced coverage, during the time Obama was running for office. how could i be so stupid. (sarcasm)
The times the liberal media made mashed potatoes out of Sara Palin's kids(especially the mentally challenged one). that wasnt a plan to try and smear Republicans? sure, that was ethical unbiased reporting.
The times the liberal media followed obama with their tongues hanging like excited panting dogs, just waiting to report on what outfit Michelle is wearing. Obama was a media darling,” declared CBS reporter Thalia Assuras. All of that was 100% unbiased.

1) I didn't know about the child with special needs. I don't think anyone ever attacked her that child. No one attacked her daughter who got pregnant but they did attack her parenting skills because if you can't run a family you can't run a country. Palin also left Alaska before her term was over so why would someone put that in a bright light.

2) Not going to waste myself addressing your conspiracy's anymore.

[ImStricken06]

1. Romney has to prove the legality of his legal taxes for me.

2. FF is a national security issues. We don't just hand out plans to everybody or else ever person in the world would be making nukes.

1. you are a no one. Romney doesnt need to prove anything to YOU, nor me, nor anyone else of 'us little people'. Your messiah waited how long to prove his citizenship? exactly. i am sure the IRS would have been all over Romney, had he had issues. i am sure the obama administration has already a team devoted and ready to smear Romney if at all possible.

2. and no one said nukes or any other WoMD were involved, so why are you trying to cloud the convo? F&F doesn't involved weapons of mass destruction - this involved hand guns. The obama admin doesnt even wanna hand the files over to US gov. So your perfectly fine, and not bothered by the US just handing guns out to drug cartels, and criminals = but you dont want criminal record free citizens to own "scary" guns? wow again, hypocrisy!

START WORRYING ABOUT THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, AND LESS ABOUT THE ONE THINKING OF REPLACING THE CURRENT ONE. the current president not only quacks like a duck, but walks like one too.

[bigbadberry3]

1. Romney has to prove the legality of his legal taxes for me.

2. FF is a national security issues. We don't just hand out plans to everybody or else ever person in the world would be making nukes.

1. you are a no one. Romney doesnt need to prove anything to YOU, nor me, nor anyone else of 'us little people'. Your messiah waited how long to prove his citizenship? exactly. i am sure the IRS would have been all over Romney, had he had issues. i am sure the obama administration has already a team devoted and ready to smear Romney if at all possible.

2. and no one said nukes or any other WoMD were involved, so why are you trying to cloud the convo? F&F doesn't involved weapons of mass destruction - this involved hand guns. The obama admin doesnt even wanna hand the files over to US gov. So your perfectly fine, and not bothered by the US just handing guns out to drug cartels, and criminals = but you dont want criminal record free citizens to own "scary" guns? wow again, hypocrisy!

START WORRYING ABOUT THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, AND LESS ABOUT THE ONE THINKING OF REPLACING THE CURRENT ONE. the current president not only quacks like a duck, but walks like one too.

1) I am no one? Too bad some 600 no ones put Bush in office. It's the little details my little friend.

2) Do you not know if WMDS were involved? Are you 110% sure there are no national security issues? Sorry, you are now the

no one

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I think you may be the quack here.

[stebo0728]

How about the media's fawning all over Michelle Obama and how classy she was wearing a $6k jacket to London, how she upstaged the queen, and how that jacket keeps tailors and drycleaners in business. Then let Ann Romney wear a $900 shirt and she gets excoriated, both her and Mitt, and how out of touch they are with the common man.

And BBB, why do you hate people who game the system for themselves? Thats human nature brah. Thats why there is a system in the firstplace, thats why we have a rule of law. You ever look into the gaming of the system Mr. Buffet and Mr. Gates have done over the years? Likely not, they've not run for president yet, and they quack like a liberal "oh please raise my taxes dear ruler, please!"

[ImStricken06]

1) I didn't know about the child with special needs. I don't think anyone ever attacked her that child. No one attacked her daughter who got pregnant but they did attack her parenting skills because if you can't run a family you can't run a country.

2) Not going to waste myself addressing your conspiracy's anymore.

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yaaaa sounds like a bunch of respectful liberals...

[hannibal]

I could care less about Mitt's tax returns or off shore money. He is filthy rich. Thats all I know and need to know. Is he worth $100 million or $500 million? Who cares. I just know he has no idea what 95% of America does everyday.

I dont care about Obama's college apps either. Seriously?

Im sorry but this is patently absurd. Wealthy people do not become so in a bubble. In fact, someone wealthy usually has a BETTER understanding of how the 95% operate, knowing this and manipulating this is how they become wealthy. You can argue that, as a business man he may be insensitive toward the 95%, I would disagree, but to say he's clueless is just ridiculous.

Rich people have different problems than those that work for a living. Deciding where to go to dinner is much different than deciding whether you should eat or heat your home. Mitt has no experience with the latter.

I dont think the ability to "manipulate" people for personal gain is the same as understanding the majority's daily struggles.

True, most politicians are wealthy. And most are out of touch with regular society.

[telcoman]

And some are just a horses a$$

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-2 ... falca.html

The couple’s tax returns classify Ann Romney’s pastime as a business that lost $77,731 in 2010, rather than a hobby, and as a passive investment instead of one they actively manage. Each of those decisions has tax consequences.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/07/30/ ... eductions/

"included in this pushing of the envelope is a $77,000 tax deduction for the care and feeding of a horse."

"Regardless of whether the horse earns an Olympic medal, it has certainly helped Romney earn the Gold Medal in Tax Deductions."

"Most American families do not make the $77,000 in a year, let alone have Most American families do not make the $77,000 in a year, let alone have have $77,000 to take care of a horse."

"Annual health care costs for the average American family: $1,557; health care costs for Rafalca: $2,000."

Telcoman

[ImStricken06]

Telcoman, like no democrat has ever used some erroneous write-off? honestly, dont blame 1 person for taking advantage of what law makers drafted, and passed into law. (tha same that we couldnt blame obama for having the most expensive inauguration in history - not his fault he was allowed to do that during a fiscal crisis. its the law makers that approve such BS wasteful spending. $150 million)

try to be as unbiased, and fair & impartial as you can be. its silly to throw things out, if both parties are just as guilty of it.

[bigbadberry3]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/eur ... story.html

I bet Romney will be avoiding any trips to France in the near future.

[ImStricken06]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/eur ... story.html

I bet Romney will be avoiding any trips to France in the near future.

Democrats: "its a revenue problem"
Republicans: "its a spending problem"

personally, i dont see it being a revenue problem. i see politicians grossly over paid for producing very little. i see entitlements to government employees that far exceed what the private sector currently gets. I see government positions that are padded with tax payer funded cars, gas cards, tolls, office supplies dry cleaning, etc. and what makes it worse is these government officials in charge are handing contracts like maintenance on the cars, the dry cleaning, the office supply to companies their friends own. and these companies are allowed to over-charge for the services rendered because there is no oversight.

[telcoman]

Telcoman, like no democrat has ever used some erroneous write-off? honestly, dont blame 1 person for taking advantage of what law makers drafted, and passed into law. (tha same that we couldnt blame obama for having the most expensive inauguration in history - not his fault he was allowed to do that during a fiscal crisis. its the law makers that approve such BS wasteful spending. $150 million)

try to be as unbiased, and fair & impartial as you can be. its silly to throw things out, if both parties are just as guilty of it.

Yes both parties take advantage of a system that they created. But which party is going to throw a few crumbs to those of us that actually work for a paycheck?

Romney doesn't just use an accountant do do his tax return. He uses an entire accounting firm and pushes the envelope like no other and then refuses to produce his tax returns.

He obfuscates almost every question that he is asked by the press including the Boston Globe when he was running for governor of Massachusetts over which state he was a resident of. He avoids the major media and only goes to Fox News that does not ask the right questions. Palin did the same thing and we know how that turned out.

You can try to defend him all you want but giving the richest Americans additional tax cuts and raising taxes on those least able to afford it is a way to losing the election no matter how much money is spent on his campaign.

What he states he intends to do on day one if he wins is a huge joke

Telcoman

[ImStricken06]

But which party is going to throw a few crumbs to those of us that actually work for a paycheck?

certainly not democrats. democrats penalize those who work. they constantly penalize small to medium business.

THEY GIVE CRUMBS TO THOSE WHO DONT WORK = welfare, section8, family first plus, etc. and they make no incentive to go back to work. the more kids you make, the bigger the check every 1st & 15th. as soon as you pick up a part time job = they cut your welfare benefits.

whats the point of getting a job at $9/hr if welfare pays you just as much to NOT work?

ya, the democrats really stimute the work ethic of this country they dont stress the small business of this nation, no- not at all:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmL37TcBtpY[/youtube]

[ImStricken06]

Romney doesn't just use an accountant do do his tax return. He uses an entire accounting firm and pushes the envelope like no other and then refuses to produce his tax returns.

yes because nancy pelosi or joe biden dont have "entire teams/firms" working for them? or that obama didnt have "firms" that worked for him? why do you continue to try and hide your own party's faults?

again, whats the point of bringing out negative points that BOTH parties are just as equally guilty off?

[bigbadberry3]

If Romeny does not like Reid, why not release the records now and crush Reid?

[stebo0728]

Also....I'd take a tax returns for "F&F Files" trade....

[telcoman]

it took obama months to release his birth certificate.
why do you care about who spends, where - and ignore records that will tell you about the character of a person?
why are you liberals so hypocritical? you hold republicans to standards you, yourselves dont even follow/uphold.

Obama was telling the truth about his place of birth and proved it by sticking it to the Donald and the other wacko's making false claims against him

Republicans need to prove to the American people that they pay taxes before taking away from those less fortunate to reduce the deficit.

If Harry Reid's assertion is wrong then Romney should prove Harry wrong and just release his tax returns.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/11/busin ... ErDhWmb/qw

Telcoman

[szh]

Obama was telling the truth about his place of birth and proved it by sticking it to the Donald and the other wacko's making false claims against him

Republicans need to prove to the American people that they pay taxes before taking away from those less fortunate to reduce the deficit.

Paying taxes is NOT a requirement to hold the office of POTUS.

Being a US citizen IS such a requirement.

(Which is not to say that I believe President Obama is unqualified.)

Z

[stebo0728]

So let me see if I get this straight........

People are skeptical of Romney's finances, therefore, regardless of previous precedent, he should release as much of his personal information as the opposition would like?

How about when someone's birth status is in question? Should the opposition have to wait until the election is basically over? What about when an individual's education records are called to question? SO if someone is under a specific scrutiny, they should automatically be required to either diffuse the scrutiny, or presume guilt?

Thats a standard that seems to only be a one way street, at least in the media, where such a standard would matter.

[telcoman]

So let me see if I get this straight........

People are skeptical of Romney's finances, therefore, regardless of previous precedent, he should release as much of his personal information as the opposition would like?

Yes

So let me see if I get this straight........

How about when someone's birth status is in question? Should the opposition have to wait until the election is basically over? What about when an individual's education records are called to question? SO if someone is under a specific scrutiny, they should automatically be required to either diffuse the scrutiny, or presume guilt?

That was an item for the previous election

Obama was elected and the majority did not care about his grades or who he hung around with 20 years prior

[szh]

So let me see if I get this straight........

People are skeptical of Romney's finances, therefore, regardless of previous precedent, he should release as much of his personal information as the opposition would like?

Yes

No.

You are not entitled to that tax information. It is not a pre-requisite to doing a good job in the office of POTUS - there isn't any national conflict of interest involved.

OTOH, the natural-born US citizenship requirement was to ensure allegiance to the interests of the US (rather than another nation) without a potential conflict of interest, when and where necessary.

Z

[stebo0728]

So let me see if I get this straight........

People are skeptical of Romney's finances, therefore, regardless of previous precedent, he should release as much of his personal information as the opposition would like?

Yes

So, only one side has the advantage of setting the tone of the discussion?

How about when someone's birth status is in question? Should the opposition have to wait until the election is basically over? What about when an individual's education records are called to question? SO if someone is under a specific scrutiny, they should automatically be required to either diffuse the scrutiny, or presume guilt?

That was an item for the previous election

Obama was elected and the majority did not care about his grades or who he hung around with 20 years prior

If the majority didn't care, you wouldn't be hearing the question still. No, the majority cared, we just had an infatuated media that wouldn't do its job. We still do.