My Versa is my LAST NISSAN.........Nissan is too stupid to fix it.

[Versa Blues]

My Versa is not a bad car albeit the body is french design and built terribly cheap. The problem is minor problems are major issues because the Nissan service organization STINKS!!! I owned datsuns years ago...those were the "Quality Days". I bought a Nissan Pick Up on blind faith in '84....GARBAGE and the NISSAN experts couldn't (wouldn't) fix it even after I told them exactly what the problem was. The BBB made them buy it back! I bought and drove Fords for 25 years without a problem! But I didn't like the Focus Hatchback styling and thought the Versa with dealer installed ground effects was "cute". Well, it's having a few minor problems that Nissan can't (won't) fix (some things NEVER change). Again I even told them what the problem is, but the are too proud to listen. I can tolerate the so-so quality of the product. I just can't tolerate STUPID !!! Nissan!...You are nothing but a cheap imitation of Honda.

[Onyxblue]

What problems do you have that the dealer can't fix?Is it a dealer issue or the car? Can you blame a whole company because of an employee?

[Mr. LS]

Can you blame a whole company because of an employee?

Actually you can, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

[bigdog]

if under warrenty try to find different dealer to fix.

[Vahagn23]

you should check out Ford Fusion, the plastic on the doors move when you touch it. It looks like a stable car from outside, but from inside its made with even worst quality then the V and the Ford dealer I went to was horrible, yes worst then my Nissan Dealer, they just want to take your money. You ask them for a price and they just say sign the paper. WTF lol they never give a straigh answer. Like they want to decide for the customer. Im the customer I should knwo what I want.

[DejaWiz]

Of course it's a cheap car. They start at around $13K and go up from there. Thing about the Versa is it's an economy small mid-sized vehicle meant generally for A-B duty, fairly easy on fuel, and has some available options typically not found in other vehicles of this price range ...and not much else. If you're wanting the fit, finish, and quality of a luxury sedan, you'd have bypassed the Versa altogether and been paying at least double for such a vehicle. Are there some local dealer incentives on a nice Civic or used Accord you can take advantage of?

[feloniousmonk]

My Versa is not a bad car albeit the body is french design and built terribly cheap. The problem is minor problems are major issues because the Nissan service organization STINKS!!! I owned datsuns years ago...those were the "Quality Days". I bought a Nissan Pick Up on blind faith in '84....GARBAGE and the NISSAN experts couldn't (wouldn't) fix it even after I told them exactly what the problem was. The BBB made them buy it back! I bought and drove Fords for 25 years without a problem! But I didn't like the Focus Hatchback styling and thought the Versa with dealer installed ground effects was "cute". Well, it's having a few minor problems that Nissan can't (won't) fix (some things NEVER change). Again I even told them what the problem is, but the are too proud to listen. I can tolerate the so-so quality of the product. I just can't tolerate STUPID !!! Nissan!...You are nothing but a cheap imitation of Honda.

Did you try a different dealer? Did you call Nissan USA to resolve the problem? You condemned Nissan and provided zero specifics. The post gives the impression of sensationalism and make you look like you overreacted and just gave up at the first sign of difficulty.

Mid 80s Nissans were crap, I'll give you that. Then again, just about everything made in the 80s were crap. Comparatively, Nissans made in the 80s were more reliable than some... like the Chrysler K car. Fords weren't exactly great either. The japanese cars were beating domestic brands so badly they had to ask the government to slap heavy import tariffs on every imported car. To deal with that many of them built factories here and created jobs. Then, the big 3 couldn't go after them for building cheaper and better cars... so they made the government forced the Japanese to use more American parts. Then... people complained about diminishing quality and start saying "don't buy [insert Japanese brand], they suck!"

Funny.

[Bubs daddy]

Ah yes, the all too common first post complaint. It is amazing how many first posts are all about their "problems." Maybe some jealous Fit owner...

[Visaversa]

"Ya know......it is what it is"

[bucksnort]

Ah yes, the all too common first post complaint. It is amazing how many first posts are all about their "problems." Maybe some jealous Fit owner...

Probably a disgruntled car salesdog with time on his hairy palms to do some trolling

[KimberKenobi]

In all this... you never stated any actual problems that weren't resolved... only that there were some that weren't resolved.

Plus, sure the frame/chasis is a Nissan/Renault collaboration, but the actual body stying is a Japanese styling. (right? that's what I was lead to believe... especially since the original TIIDA was built on a different platform and the VERSA was built using the platform and engine resulting from the Nissan/Renault collaboration (this is what I was lead to believe from the "about the Versa" video that I saw on YouTube where a Nissan guy is showing off one of the first production Versas... I'm open to being wrong... This explains the minor size differences between the non-mexican TIIDA and the VERSA)

I still say your post has a lot of words in it for not really saying anything... You haven't really given any information other than you think that Nissan is STUPID and that the service you get from one particular dealership STINKS!!! ... There are always problem dealers and problem cars... WITH ANY COMPANY ... if you're arguing with the dealership and not getting anywhere, why not call Nissan directly? It's not as if no one else on here has had to do that.

(sorry, EV, stole your annoyed face ;oD)

[will1911a1]

My Versa is not a bad car albeit the body is french design and built terribly cheap. The problem is minor problems are major issues because the Nissan service organization STINKS!!! I owned datsuns years ago...those were the "Quality Days". I bought a Nissan Pick Up on blind faith in '84....GARBAGE and the NISSAN experts couldn't (wouldn't) fix it even after I told them exactly what the problem was. The BBB made them buy it back! I bought and drove Fords for 25 years without a problem! But I didn't like the Focus Hatchback styling and thought the Versa with dealer installed ground effects was "cute". Well, it's having a few minor problems that Nissan can't (won't) fix (some things NEVER change). Again I even told them what the problem is, but the are too proud to listen. I can tolerate the so-so quality of the product. I just can't tolerate STUPID !!! Nissan!...You are nothing but a cheap imitation of Honda.

Nice attempt at a troll. You've still got a long way to go though.

[nissanhater]

Yeah, I and my family feel your pain. I've posted on this forum a few times about all of the problems that we had with our Versa. Some people have been quite civil, others not so much. First off, a center air vent was broken when we took delivery of the car - you couldn't close the damper on the right center air vent. The dealership managed to fix this one - it would be the only problem they could fix.

Then we started noticing an A/C condensate leak that was saturating the passenger-side carpeting. We took it in once - the dealer tried to clean out a condensate drain hose - didn't work - leak came back. Second time the dealership removed the dash and replaced the entire heater box assembly. This also did not work - leak came back profusely on a summer trip to Florida - caused mold to form on the carpets in the rear passenger compartment. Took it in a third time, and the dealership cried "uncle" and proclaimed they hadn't a clue how to fix it. So they decided to replace the A/C compressor following the TSB on the issue. They claimed they needed to get paid for something...

The A/C compressor was replaced once, it was whining with engine RPM's. The dealership replaced it again with a second new one - this one was whining as well. At this point, Dad decided to file a lemon law buyback claim. Nissan USA said some BS that we didn't qualify, but sent Tony the "master technician" down to have a look at it. Tony discovered the dealership was putting the wrong compressor in - they put in the one for the CVT instead of the 4-speed auto that we had. So they put in a third new compressor - this one worked.

Then summer rolled back around and the A/C condensate leak started again. Another trip to Florida caused profuse saturation on the passenger carpets. I also noticed, when we got home and I started vacuuming out the car, that there was also a water leak (most likely due to a bad weather seal) in the spare tire well in the trunk. It had a lot of dirt and debris with the water, so it must have been coming from rainwater seepage. Since we had tried 3 times to get this condensate leak fixed before, Dad filed for a second lemon law claim on this issue. Nissan USA again said some BS about us not qualifying, but they sent Tony again anyway. He couldn't replicate the A/C condensate leak or the trunk leak again, so he basically said such an issue, if it did exist, was normal. He said that condensation could build up under the mats or in the trunk at any time - hmmmm, never happened with any other make of car we've owned.

The steering was also doing that klunking thing that I've seen people describe on this forum. It started when the car was still brand new and got worse over time to the point that it was doing it with every turn we made in the car and every bump we hit. We also told Tony about this, and he said he could find nothing wrong.

Lastly, the brakes started squealing at 24,000 miles. Took it to the dealer - they couldn't find anything wrong. We also noticed the Versa started using oil more than any other car we've owned - it would be almost down to the bottom hole on the dipstick after about 2,500 miles after an oil change. And that after the engine rarely passed 4,000RPM. My Dad's 140,000-mile Tacoma and my 95,000-mile Civic don't use a drop of oil.

This car was in no way abused. I washed and waxed it regularly for us, we parked it in the far corners of the lot to avoid door dings, we dodged every pothole we saw, and it was driven on Georgia roads, which are supposedly known (according to a Car and Driver column a year or so ago) as being smoother than a lot of other states' in the country. There was not a single stain on the carpets or seats because no one ever ate or drank in the car.

Our Versa made a total of 20 trips to dealer. We had 3-4 dealer-supplied rental cars. The problems cost us tons of wasted time, not to mention gas and just the stress of it all. Nissan USA offered us absolutely nothing to compensate us for our trouble. They never even said: "Sorry we built such a crappy car."

So what did we do? We traded in the piece of sh** for a proper car - a 2008 Honda Civic (nice to have a car that can get out of it's own way). Our only problem with that is that some poor unsuspecting soul will buy the crap thinking that it is a good car, in good condition, at a bargain price. This should of been Nissan's problem, but they wouldn't step up to the plate and take responsibility so it's left to private owners to sort out.

And I wouldn't be so hard on Nissan (maybe) if we hadn't had a 2002 Altima that leaked transmission fluid at about mile 32 and started using oil excessively. This was the model year they later found out that the Altima's 2.5-liter engine could start using oil and basically burn up - who knows what ever happened to ours because we traded that piece of sh** in as well.

So, I mean this in no way to bash anyone's character, but: you all can have your rattletrap Nissans. They may once have been good pre-2000, but they are now nothing more than a farce. Why does the new Altima commercial have to proclaim that they are "built to last." Everyone assumes that for Toyota and Honda, but certainly not Nissan. The new GT-R may be Nissan's halo car, and they may make light of it's astonishing Nurburgring lap times, but how many parts did it shed along the way?

Some of you will banish me a heretic, say that we must have abused the car, say that we were just hunting something to find wrong with the car, but just wait - in time you will see with your own...

[Nismo V]

Glad to hear you are moving into the Honda* camp.

Interesting that your "1" and only post is oneof condemnation and one that carries no merit, given the Versa's being named 2 years in a row consumer digests best buy which is very hard to accomplish and with all the accolades given by Road and Track, Motor Trend too name a few.

Now onto Nissanhater, I feel your pain but those are dealer specific issues, every manufactuer has one or more black sheep, also my friend bought a 2007 Civic SI and it has just as many problems so Honda* is no better.

But the thing I see you two have in common is that instead of looking into constuctive means to resolve your issues you used a forum that is designed to close the gaps of owners knowledge in a positive manner.

I recently attended a Japanese Classic Car Show and through out the entire venue the were very few of the "H" branded cars on display and the show many important influences in the automotive industries. And none seems to motivated display the "H" branded cars as part of their portfolio of cars.

Honda vs Nissan

NSX vs Skyline= Winner Skyline oops thats an Acura so no contest

S2000 vs 350Z= Winner 350Z

Accord vs Altima/Maxima=Altima/Maxima

Civic SI vs Sentra SE-R= Winner Sentra SE-R

Fit vs Versa= Winner Versa

So who's your daddy?

[LeroyBrown]

All iv owned is nissan vehicles and never had a problem with any of them.

1993 nissan sentra almost 300,000miles ran like a champ untill the drain plug fell off and blew the motor and all i had to replace is just the usual water pump clutch fuel filter and a couple of other things wouldnt be surprised if it ran to 400,000 the car was a freak of nature.

1987 nissan pickup ran like a beats 247,000 gave that thing the pipes in the mountains untill i rolled it lol. the usual replacements thats it.

1994 nissan pickup 180,000 driving it as a daily pickup for the skatepark and to throw my skies in the back for the winter.

1995 nissan 240sx s14 sr20det loving it.

[brucek]

Quote »the Versa's being named 2 years in a row consumer digests best buy which is very hard to accomplish and with all the accolades given by Road and Track, Motor Trend too name a few. [/quote]Yeah, I just traded in my 14 year old Nissan Sentra last month and purchased a new 2008 Versa.

I sure did a lot of searching on the internet trying to establish if the Versa was a reliable car and the one I wanted. It isn't Versa's first model year, so there has certainly been enough time to flesh out any problems that would be reported by the various reviewers and forum types.

All in all, the word is that Versa is quite a good car.

I suspect that "nissanhater" had some unfortunate bad luck, as can happen to anyone with any make of car (particularly with a small sample of one), but if Nissans are really, as he claims, now nothing more than a farce, then I suspect we would have all heard by now how horrible they are, and they likely wouldn't be earning a 'best buy' from consumer digest, et al.............

[marleyfan]

The BBB made them buy it back!

The BBB has absolutely no enforcement powers. How exactly did they make them buy anything back? I agree with others that you are either simply trolling or you are a Honda fanboy out to attack Nissan. Your post has no specifics at all cuz you don't even own a Versa.

If I am wrong then you are missing out on the benefit of this board by wading in with your first post full of venom. You have managed to alienate most members with your first post. This forum has been very helpful and informative to many Versa owners. Sell your Versa. Buy a Civic. We will all be happier

[srellim234]

Even though I think the venom spewed is unjustified, there is some validity to the fact that the Versa is not an exceptional car. Comparing the 2007 Versa to the 2007 Civic or 2007 Pontiac Vibe at J.D. Powers reveals that the Versa lags way behind the other two in every single category except for the appeal of the dashboard instruments. Not exactly a category to hang your hat on.

The 2007 Versa is a decent car overall, but that's really about it. Mechanically it is quite unremarkable. Every car has trade-offs; for 2007 Nissan sunk the money into providing creature comforts on the SL instead of developing something stronger mechanically.

It is what it is. Not the top car out there, but a far cry from the worst.

I will say that my wife was a die-hard Nissan fan based on 15 years of Altimas, both cars we've owned and ones she was assigned at work. I never cared for the Altima, but I wasn't the one driving them the most so she had more intimate knowledge of the car. I respect her opinion. Her opinion weighed heavily when we bought the V.

This Versa, however, has knocked Nissan out of the "must-have" category for her. After 10 months of the Versa even she is now viewing Nissan as just another brand to consider instead of a "must-have, high quality" brand to own.

[Driving Instructor]

PLEASE NO MORE REPLIES TO THIS TOPIC!!! WAIT UNTIL VERSA BLUES REPLIES.I am dying to know what issues he is having!

We all know my issues I have had with this car but the service at my dealer is what keep me sain!

Versa Blues, please tell us details on the issues!

Thank you!G P

[Bubs daddy]

Nissanlover,

You bought a Honduh Civic? My condolences. They're about as exciting as the Toyota Corolla.

My Versa doesn't exhibit any of the "problems" you described. Reliable, economical, fun, and VERSAtile.

Go back to your Civic forum. We have more important things to talk about...like The Love Camel!

[KimberKenobi]

We have more important things to talk about...like The Love Camel!

ROFL!!

I love you guys... (oh wait, the LoveCamel loves you guys ;oD)

[Nismo V]

Even though I think the venom spewed is unjustified, there is some validity to the fact that the Versa is not an exceptional car. Comparing the 2007 Versa to the 2007 Civic or 2007 Pontiac Vibe at J.D. Powers reveals that the Versa lags way behind the other two in every single category except for the appeal of the dashboard instruments. Not exactly a category to hang your hat on.

Your right bro not the "Best" out but "Best in Class".

Comparing these three is not a good representation of their respective catergories or prices the Civic and Vibe cost an extra $2500+ to own and should bring a lot more to the table but do not, also JD Powers listed the Civic and Vibe in the Compact catergory, the Versa is listed as a Sub-Compact with the Fit. JD Powers awarded the Kia Rio "Best In Initial Quality" so there goes the validity of JD Powers.

No offense to Kia Owners, it is what it is Check it out ---> http://www.jdpower.com/autos/r...t-car

[IMHungry]

My Versa is not a bad car albeit the body is french design and built terribly cheap. The problem is minor problems are major issues because the Nissan service organization STINKS!!! I owned datsuns years ago...those were the "Quality Days". I bought a Nissan Pick Up on blind faith in '84....GARBAGE and the NISSAN experts couldn't (wouldn't) fix it even after I told them exactly what the problem was. The BBB made them buy it back! I bought and drove Fords for 25 years without a problem! But I didn't like the Focus Hatchback styling and thought the Versa with dealer installed ground effects was "cute". Well, it's having a few minor problems that Nissan can't (won't) fix (some things NEVER change). Again I even told them what the problem is, but the are too proud to listen. I can tolerate the so-so quality of the product. I just can't tolerate STUPID !!! Nissan!...You are nothing but a cheap imitation of Honda.

Nothing lasts forever....

[srellim234]

I chose the Civic and Vibe because I believe they are the main competition to the SL. By using the 2007 model year we have over a year's worth of reliability data. A Versa SL with CVT and a package or two actually is about the same price as the Civic or Vibe configured as automatics without a ton of extras. Categories aren't necessarily accurate; the government lists the Versa as a midsize because of the interior space.

If you wish to keep it in the subcompact class, you get the same results comparing the 2007 Versa to the 2007 Toyota Yaris and the 2007 Honda Fit. The Versa again lags in almost every category. The creature comforts set the Versa apart from the other two, but mechanically it is still an unremarkable car.

By the way, the category is "Best in Initial Quality." It is limited to the first 90 days of ownership. It may very well be that the winner of the category is getting through the first 90 days with very few problems and then falling apart quickly. Looking at the results the Kia is a low rated car after the 90 day period is over. Best analogy I can think of right now is someone rated as the best runner at 100 meters. That's going to be a sprinter. The sprinter, however, is going to be very poorly rated when you rate him compared to the distance runners at a 10k run. The Kia is apparently not built for the long term.
Modified by srellim234 at 8:37 AM 6/1/2008

[KimberKenobi]

The Kia is apparently not built for the long term.

EV, I didn't say it... but x2!!

However, I wish I had more experience with the Fit and the Yaris... I've not had problem upon problem with the Camel and feel that it has lasted well (I've done 3 years worth of driving in 1), was put together well, is comfortable, spacious, and is a lot of bang for the buck. And of the three, I think it has the best styling... Though the Yaris sedan isn't bad.

I also think the quality of the interior materials will help it last longer than the other two...

I think we've also had several conversations about Consumer Reports not seeming exactly un-biased toward Honda and Toyota... that was all about a year ago on here and I'm not even sure if I could easily find the thread(s)... But anyway...

[PB]

TROLL

[bikeman]

I chose the Civic and Vibe because I believe they are the main competition to the SL. By using the 2007 model year we have over a year's worth of reliability data. A Versa SL with CVT and a package or two actually is about the same price as the Civic or Vibe configured as automatics without a ton of extras.

We choose between the Matrix/Vibe and the Versa. We got written quotes from multiple dealers. $4,000 difference on comparable vehicles. We choose the Versa because it was much quieter, more comfortable and more fun to drive. The $4,000 difference was just icing on the cake. I agree that the Civic and Vibe/Matrix are the vehicles that the Versa should be compared to.

David

[srellim234]

Pontiac Vibe- MSRP on the base model adding preferred package (automatic, A/C, remote entry, power locks and windows, cruise control) - $18,640.

Nissan Versa SL hatchback- MSRP with CVT, convenience, moonroof and ABS packages- $18,700.

More creature comforts in the Versa but the two cars are competititon for each other.

[kikorikey]

nissan dealership in my area blows, especially the parts department !!

[daggonit]

It's been my experience that there is a lemon in every bunch of apples...no matter which car company you decide to buy from. I was a DEVOTED Honda owner for years. My 2001 Honda Civic EX was needing a lot of maintenance work ($2,000 worth of maintenance). I loved the car but I was not willing to eat the cost of maintenance so I decided to buy a brand new 2007 Honda Fit. Let me now begin the lengthy list of problems I had with the Honda Fit...1. Broken driver seat - covered by warranty. The springs broke and started poking through the seat cover. 2. Stripped lug nuts - not covered by warranty. I believe the dealership did this but refused to take responsibility when they tried to remove the wheel lock without using the key. 3. Worn front wheel bearings - not covered under warranty. Honda stated it was a "wear and tear" issue. The car had 9,000 miles on it at the time. 4. Constant oil loss - not covered by warranty. The car lost 1/2 to 1 quart of oil every two to three weeks. The dealership advised they would "monitor" the situation and refused to even open the hood of the car. Honda sided with the dealership meaning I had to schedule an appointment every time I had an oil loss. This was a major pain.5. Stereo - not covered by warranty. Sometimes it would work...sometimes it wouldn't. It worked flawlessly whenever I took it to the dealership. I ate nearly $1500 in repair costs for the Honda Fit before buying a Nissan Versa. I'm not saying I won't buy another Honda but I will say Honda left a VERY sour taste in my mouth after my experience with the Fit. I've had multiple Hondas last well over 200,000 miles with little more than brakes, belts and tires. I know they make really great cars but I also know there can be an exception to every rule. I'm not going to condemn Honda for one lemon in a bunch of really great apples.